GT Motorsports: 370Z Supercharger system development

MMC Racing · 01-31-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM

And i would not even value your input for 1 shiny penny, Somebody asked a technical questions and i answerd it, that is what i do here .

You have a problem with my answer or you did not see the value in it then fine goahead and challenge it and explain to me how's having hands on experience on the stillen kit will have anything to do with the facts that I stated in regards to the air temp reading.

Sam

Get on the GTM bandwagon or get rolled

MMC Racing · 01-31-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by iceman21_23

sam don't worry about it; let the haters hate. The GTM kit is sounding very promising and im looking forward to one day putting this kit on my car. Thank you for taking the time and dedication to develop such a kit for the 370z community. The more competition the better it is for all of us 370z enthusiast.

Hater's hate is so overused. I don't hate GTM nor do I love Stillen. I like to see product's prove themselves. Grandstanding by one shop on a not even released product by another is just poor business practices.

But I guess I should flash one of these at you

and call it a day right? Or am I generalizing?

1slow370 · 01-31-2010, 10:36 PM

We all need to chill no vendor wars here please unless you are arguing over prices and who is going to be cheaper. We love all our vendors here and when the units are DONE we will make decisions individually as to which one we want to buy.

Sam, no amount of cross vendor fire will distract us from ragging you about getting the damn thing done

(I kid)

Now just to be sporting here is my question about the MAF placement between the kits, How come no one is setting the MAF sensors in a draw through setup so they can actually measure the volume of air entering the engine before it is compressed, and splicing the IAT wiring off to a manifold sensor to accurately measure the incoming air temperature? I restate my question of whether or not you were able to upgrade the MAP sensor to gauge the amount of pressure in the manifold, or by retaining a mostly stock setup do you plan to simply adjust the fuel tables and VE to go around the problem.

Oh and I do mean that unless you want to create vendor hate here everyone just needs to STFU

Buddy Revell · 01-31-2010, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMC Racing

Hater's hate is so overused. I don't hate GTM nor do I love Stillen. I like to see product's prove themselves. Grandstanding by one shop on a not even released product by another is just poor business practices.

But I guess I should flash one of these at you

and call it a day right? Or am I generalizing?

I have to disagree. I don't think it's grandstanding. Sam brought up what he feels is a problem with the design of Stillen's kit, specifically the location of the MAFS. Now if there's something that Stillen has done to address this that outside observers can't see, there's nothing wrong with them clarifying it, to ease concerns potential buyers may have. And although early adopters are always at risk of being guinea pigs for things that go wrong, it's always better to address as many potential concerns as possible beforehand.

FuszNissan · 01-31-2010, 10:40 PM

Just in time!

01-31-2010, 10:46 PM

I didnt bother to read most of these posts. I am not a fan of Stillen so dont put fanboy **** on me. But will you SHUT UP when it comes to bashing on other kits in a certain sponsors thread? All it does is cause drama. This thread is to support GTM's SC kit for the 370z. In no way does STILLEN tie into this due to the title. So STFU and keep it GTM related. If you want drama start a new thread.

Sponsors----you bash another company in your thread. I wont buy from you being it seems you have nothing to do other than hate on other companies and it gives you a insecure look

Members---- you look like douche bags.

MMC Racing · 01-31-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell

I have to disagree. I don't think it's grandstanding. Sam brought up what he feels is a problem with the design of Stillen's kit, specifically the location of the MAFS. Now if there's something that Stillen has done to address this that outside observers can't see, there's nothing wrong with them clarifying it, to ease concerns potential buyers may have. And although early adopters are always at risk of being guinea pigs for things that go wrong, it's always better to address as many potential concerns as possible beforehand.

I always believe in the market. The market is where products are proven one way or another. If the problem is as bad as Sam claims here, then Stillen's testing will prove that out and 1 of 2 things will happen. They will release it anyway or redesign it. If they release it anyway, it will fail to be a successful product. The market will choose the winner.

I don't think any company should have to do tit for tat responses to questions by a competitor on a not yet released product. Let SAM deliver some actual data (which he doesn't have of course) showing a problem and then pull out the popcorn, sit back, and watch. Sam is not some impartial 3rd party here, he has profit motive.

antennahead · 01-31-2010, 10:59 PM

IBTL

Trips · 01-31-2010, 11:01 PM

Oh my God What Happened?

01-31-2010, 11:02 PM

MMC ....I bet my Murcielago would smoke ur GTR

MMC Racing · 01-31-2010, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

MMC ....I bet my Murcielago would smoke ur GTR

Easy to claim 3000 miles away.. About as easy to prove as Sam's claims on a not yet released kit (keeping this on topic)

1slow370 · 01-31-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

I didnt bother to read most of these posts. I am not a fan of Stillen so dont put fanboy **** on me. But will you SHUT UP when it comes to bashing on other kits in a certain sponsors thread? All it does is cause drama. This thread is to support GTM's SC kit for the 370z. In no way does STILLEN tie into this due to the title. So STFU and keep it GTM related. If you want drama start a new thread.

Sponsors----you bash another company in your thread. I wont buy from you being it seems you have nothing to do other than hate on other companies and it gives you a insecure look

Members---- you look like douche bags.

Thanks for the support on this and again a little bigger

We all need to STFU about the vendors

01-31-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

Easy to claim 3000 miles away.. About as easy to prove as Sam's claims on a not yet released kit (keeping this on topic)

Put your money where your mouth is big boy. Just like you seem to post in this thread easily....take it to the track and prove your mouth is worthy as your typing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370

Thanks for the support on this and again a little bigger

We all need to STFU about the vendors

Makes me pissed when people bash a paying sponsors thread. MMC racing?? (got nothing against him personally btw but making an example) hmmmm sounds like it should be a paying member huh? Keep the **** out of the thread if you dont like it. All I gotta say. *drops mic*

Trips · 01-31-2010, 11:08 PM

all right everyone End The Flame Throwing!

FuszNissan · 01-31-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

All I gotta say. *drops mic*

01-31-2010, 10:36 PM	#708 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7250	We all need to chill no vendor wars here please unless you are arguing over prices and who is going to be cheaper. We love all our vendors here and when the units are DONE we will make decisions individually as to which one we want to buy. Sam, no amount of cross vendor fire will distract us from ragging you about getting the damn thing done (I kid) Now just to be sporting here is my question about the MAF placement between the kits, How come no one is setting the MAF sensors in a draw through setup so they can actually measure the volume of air entering the engine before it is compressed, and splicing the IAT wiring off to a manifold sensor to accurately measure the incoming air temperature? I restate my question of whether or not you were able to upgrade the MAP sensor to gauge the amount of pressure in the manifold, or by retaining a mostly stock setup do you plan to simply adjust the fuel tables and VE to go around the problem. Oh and I do mean that unless you want to create vendor hate here everyone just needs to STFU Last edited by 1slow370; 01-31-2010 at 10:41 PM. Reason: spelling

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01-31-2010, 10:46 PM	#711 (permalink)
blue660r01 Guest Posts: n/a	I didnt bother to read most of these posts. I am not a fan of Stillen so dont put fanboy **** on me. But will you SHUT UP when it comes to bashing on other kits in a certain sponsors thread? All it does is cause drama. This thread is to support GTM's SC kit for the 370z. In no way does STILLEN tie into this due to the title. So STFU and keep it GTM related. If you want drama start a new thread. Sponsors----you bash another company in your thread. I wont buy from you being it seems you have nothing to do other than hate on other companies and it gives you a insecure look Members---- you look like douche bags.

01-31-2010, 11:02 PM	#715 (permalink)
blue660r01 Guest Posts: n/a	MMC ....I bet my Murcielago would smoke ur GTR

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