Meth/water injection?

G37sHKS · 01-29-2014, 11:24 AM

Never knew there are three thermostat for VHR engines from Nissan.

Chuck33079 · 01-29-2014, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS

Never knew there are three thermostat for VHR engines from Nissan.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either, but they've done weirder **** in the past.

JWillis72 · 01-29-2014, 11:39 AM

I'm just going to run this stuff on the track so I don't have to mess with mixing the meth and water.

Snow Performance Boost Juice

JWillis72 · 01-29-2014, 07:22 PM

Dreamer, if no one else has said it, I appreciate that your our FI historian here!

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Nissan370 · 01-29-2014, 07:56 PM

Wow if your not going to tune the car for the extra hp when using water/meth
Then I would just go with the snow performance kit it's cheaper and will do the same thing

If your getting the aqua kit then I would tune it for hp

JWillis72 · 01-29-2014, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nissan370

Wow if your not going to tune the car for the extra hp when using water/meth
Then I would just go with the snow performance kit it's cheaper and will do the same thing

If your getting the aqua kit then I would tune it for hp

Why buy insurance that you know isn't the best? After all I have spent on the car going cheap now doesn't make since to me!

Nissan370 · 01-29-2014, 08:13 PM

Lol trust me it's over kill
If your just using it for its cooling effect and not bumping the timing for the hp advantage

It's like getting a nos kit and instead of going for the simple jet dry shot your getting the full 2stage fogger wet kit but then only doing a 50shot

Just my 2cents any way I will post a picture of my setup on my old Stillen kit

It was a nice clean look. And worked well.

Mkai0 · 01-30-2014, 09:45 AM

I agree with you. I have 5 Uprev maps. 1-93oct, 2-91oct, 3-93oct w/meth, 4-valet, 5-security/no start. My 93+meth map allows me to run more timing and gives me 22hp over my 93 map. In the summer I still use methanol on top of my non-meth maps. Devils own and Boost Juice are good, but I am now mixing my own 50/50 mix VP M1 with distilled water. So much more cost effective!

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Originally Posted by Nissan370

Wow if your not going to tune the car for the extra hp when using water/meth
Then I would just go with the snow performance kit it's cheaper and will do the same thing

If your getting the aqua kit then I would tune it for hp

JWillis72 · 01-30-2014, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mkai0

I agree with you. I have 5 Uprev maps. 1-93oct, 2-91oct, 3-93oct w/meth, 4-valet, 5-security/no start. My 93+meth map allows me to run more timing and gives me 22hp over my 93 map. In the summer I still use methanol on top of my non-meth maps. Devils own and Boost Juice are good, but I am now mixing my own 50/50 mix VP M1 with distilled water. So much more cost effective!

Do you know how much it takes your torque up with the meth tune?

Mkai0 · 01-30-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

Do you know how much it takes your torque up with the meth tune?

I'd have to take a look at my dyno sheet, but I want to say I didn't gain any torque from the meth.

future370zzz · 01-30-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

I'm just going to run this stuff on the track so I don't have to mess with mixing the meth and water.

Snow Performance Boost Juice

I am assuming it is 1 gallon at $8.99? The product description doesn't even say how much you get.haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nissan370

Lol trust me it's over kill
If your just using it for its cooling effect and not bumping the timing for the hp advantage

It's like getting a nos kit and instead of going for the simple jet dry shot your getting the full 2stage fogger wet kit but then only doing a 50shot

Just my 2cents any way I will post a picture of my setup on my old Stillen kit

It was a nice clean look. And worked well.

That looks clean. What stage kit? The price range is big from stage 1 to 4. How much juice do you go through on average when it was on?

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Originally Posted by Mkai0

I agree with you. I have 5 Uprev maps. 1-93oct, 2-91oct, 3-93oct w/meth, 4-valet, 5-security/no start. My 93+meth map allows me to run more timing and gives me 22hp over my 93 map. In the summer I still use methanol on top of my non-meth maps. Devils own and Boost Juice are good, but I am now mixing my own 50/50 mix VP M1 with distilled water. So much more cost effective!

How much did it cost you to make a gallon? The boost juice linked above is $8.99 per gallon (it seems).

Mkai0 · 01-30-2014, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by future370zzz

I am assuming it is 1 gallon at $8.99? The product description doesn't even say how much you get.haha

That looks clean. What stage kit? The price range is big from stage 1 to 4. How much juice do you go through on average when it was on?

How much did it cost you to make a gallon? The boost juice linked above is $8.99 per gallon (it seems).

With VP's M1 costing me $45 for a 5 gallon jug and distilled water being very cheap, I can make 10 gallons of a 50/50 mix for less than $50 vs $35-40 for 4 gallons of Boost Juice. When JEGS has free shipping on Boost Juice that is only way I could justify buying it. Shipping can easily add $10-15 to 4 heavy gallons being shipped.

JWillis72 · 01-29-2014, 08:09 PM

My opinion is that anyone that thinks 400+ HP going into a hairpin isn't enough probably hasn't done it ! I don't need the biggest numbers, I just want enough to have fun and scare the crap out of myself!

Chuck33079 · 01-30-2014, 12:23 PM

It's not apples to apples, but I gained a ton of torque when I added meth on my last car. 40+ lb/ft. I didn't pick up any hp, but that turbo was pretty tiny. I could run an extra 4 pounds of boost on meth over straight 93.

Chuck33079 · 01-30-2014, 12:31 PM

It all depends on the tuner. If you just want to run it for cylinder cooling and IATs, you probably won't gain any torque. If you have the tuner add a bunch of timing since the octane will now support it, you'll pick up some power.

01-29-2014, 11:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
G37sHKS A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,183 Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT Rep Power: 21	Never knew there are three thermostat for VHR engines from Nissan. __________________ G37 BUILD UNDER CONSTRUCTION

01-29-2014, 11:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 46	I'm just going to run this stuff on the track so I don't have to mess with mixing the meth and water. Snow Performance Boost Juice Mkai0 likes this.

01-29-2014, 07:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 46	Dreamer, if no one else has said it, I appreciate that your our FI historian here! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk DEpointfive0 likes this.

01-29-2014, 07:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nissan370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 431 Drives: 2009 ST BLK 370Z Rep Power: 15	Wow if your not going to tune the car for the extra hp when using water/meth Then I would just go with the snow performance kit it's cheaper and will do the same thing If your getting the aqua kit then I would tune it for hp Mkai0 likes this. __________________ 370z vsr motorsports single turbo/built motor 9.1cr 525rwhp/450rwtq @ 10.5psi (stock maf maxed out) Last edited by Nissan370; 01-29-2014 at 08:05 PM.

01-29-2014, 08:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Nissan370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 431 Drives: 2009 ST BLK 370Z Rep Power: 15	Lol trust me it's over kill If your just using it for its cooling effect and not bumping the timing for the hp advantage It's like getting a nos kit and instead of going for the simple jet dry shot your getting the full 2stage fogger wet kit but then only doing a 50shot Just my 2cents any way I will post a picture of my setup on my old Stillen kit It was a nice clean look. And worked well. __________________ 370z vsr motorsports single turbo/built motor 9.1cr 525rwhp/450rwtq @ 10.5psi (stock maf maxed out) Last edited by Nissan370; 01-29-2014 at 08:27 PM.

01-29-2014, 08:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 46	My opinion is that anyone that thinks 400+ HP going into a hairpin isn't enough probably hasn't done it ! I don't need the biggest numbers, I just want enough to have fun and scare the crap out of myself!

01-30-2014, 12:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	It's not apples to apples, but I gained a ton of torque when I added meth on my last car. 40+ lb/ft. I didn't pick up any hp, but that turbo was pretty tiny. I could run an extra 4 pounds of boost on meth over straight 93. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

01-30-2014, 12:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	It all depends on the tuner. If you just want to run it for cylinder cooling and IATs, you probably won't gain any torque. If you have the tuner add a bunch of timing since the octane will now support it, you'll pick up some power. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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