Meth/water injection?

theDreamer · 01-29-2014, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

I don't think I have the room for a larger radiator or heat exchanger, the nose of my car as a crap load of stuff in it. I'm actually running water and Water Wetter only since it never freezes here and my car will never be anywhere it does while I own it!

The CSF radiator fits in the factory spot without much if any modifications, it is what I have.
Other upgrade is the fans, GTM has a pre-made kit that plugs in and goes. You can probably piece it together cheaper but will have to wire it all up.

Chuck33079 · 01-29-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

The CSF radiator fits in the factory spot without much if any modifications, it is what I have.
Other upgrade is the fans, GTM has a pre-made kit that plugs in and goes. You can probably piece it together cheaper but will have to wire it all up.

I've got the fans on the list of "Items I'll buy from GTM once they get back in the business of actually sending parts out to people who send them money".

There's also a Nissan thermostat that opens ten degrees cooler than stock. I've got one on a shelf in the garage for the next time I'm in there where I can get to it.

theDreamer · 01-29-2014, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I've got the fans on the list of "Items I'll buy from GTM once they get back in the business of actually sending parts out to people who send them money".

Same, I am waiting for summer to finish my data logging with my hood and see what difference it made and then throw in fans on top.
Should bug a few other companies to make a similar setup, fan shroud, fans, wiring, all in one & ready to go.

G37sHKS · 01-29-2014, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I've got the fans on the list of "Items I'll buy from GTM once they get back in the business of actually sending parts out to people who send them money".

There's also a Nissan thermostat that opens ten degrees cooler than stock. I've got one on a shelf in the garage for the next time I'm in there where I can get to it.

Where you get that from? whats the part number please?

Chuck33079 · 01-29-2014, 10:06 AM

A CSF radiator fits just fine. Any size difference is on the engine bay side. And others have managed to squeeze a bigger heat exchanger in there.

JWillis72 · 01-29-2014, 10:42 AM

Thank you both for the info on the radiator, I will have to look into that. I got on the list for GTM and even had a check ready to be mailed out but decided I didn't want to be part of that. I own a legal machine gun and was in a group by for new parts for it and lost some money so I'm just not very trusting of buying things before they are built. I would gladly pay more for the confidence that I will get what I'm paying for.

theDreamer · 01-29-2014, 10:47 AM

On the topic of water/meth injection, what are some of the pros v cons using this system?
JWillis, you want to use it for track purposes only, how hard is it to set it up like that?

JWillis72 · 01-29-2014, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

On the topic of water/meth injection, what are some of the pros v cons using this system?
JWillis, you want to use it for track purposes only, how hard is it to set it up like that?

I am not going to tune for extra HP so it's not that hard to set up. I think they said 3-4 hrs to install. If you don't tune for it there really are no cons, the pros are a great reduction in heat. The system I'm ordering comes so you can turn it off.

This is the kit.

Howerton Engineering, LLC – Aquamist HFS-3 Injection System

not the same kit but this shows how it works.

How Water/Methanol Injection Works & How It Makes Horsepower in Gas Engines - YouTube

theDreamer · 01-29-2014, 11:05 AM

Comes from my research and 7AT thread:
Forced Induction & 7AT 370z Info

TBumacz Google

DEpointfive0 · 01-29-2014, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Comes from my research and 7AT thread:
Forced Induction & 7AT 370z Info

TBumacz Google

Grassy-áss

Didn't know it was straight advertised.

theDreamer · 01-29-2014, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Grassy-áss

Didn't know it was straight advertised.

Yeah, I heard the number in 09 but never could find solid proof until I created that thread.
There are references around the web about it that say 300TQ and everything but that was the first real details.

JWillis72 · 01-29-2014, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Comes from my research and 7AT thread:
Forced Induction & 7AT 370z Info

TBumacz Google

That is exactly where I got it.

G37sHKS · 01-29-2014, 11:14 AM

Weird. what makes you so sure its not the same on all VHR motors?

Chuck33079 · 01-29-2014, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS

Weird. what makes you so sure its not the same on all VHR motors?

The one at home is 170, OE 370z is 180 and OE G37 2009+ is 190. Not sure why there's a difference.

jwick · 01-29-2014, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The one at home is 170, OE 370z is 180 and OE G37 2009+ is 190. Not sure why there's a difference.

G runs a 180 too except for 2008.

01-29-2014, 10:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	A CSF radiator fits just fine. Any size difference is on the engine bay side. And others have managed to squeeze a bigger heat exchanger in there. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	On the topic of water/meth injection, what are some of the pros v cons using this system? JWillis, you want to use it for track purposes only, how hard is it to set it up like that? __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	Comes from my research and 7AT thread: Forced Induction & 7AT 370z Info TBumacz Google __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 46	Thank you both for the info on the radiator, I will have to look into that. I got on the list for GTM and even had a check ready to be mailed out but decided I didn't want to be part of that. I own a legal machine gun and was in a group by for new parts for it and lost some money so I'm just not very trusting of buying things before they are built. I would gladly pay more for the confidence that I will get what I'm paying for.