Blown Motor, Engine Rebuild/Replacement.

phunk · 09-09-2014, 02:43 PM

Ya true, for non-competition tires I like the RE11. They really held great in the twisties for a "normal" tires.

Most people I know with 500+ rwhp in their cars have multiple sets of wheels and tires... like personally I have 3 sets for the rear. Without AWD, its almost impossible to avoid.

1slow370 · 09-09-2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO

I'm afraid of z1 since the stock motor blew there, only bad carma.. lol

In that case look into Zfever racing, I think they are just fever racing now.

mad_jelly · 09-09-2014, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

Ya true, for non-competition tires I like the RE11. They really held great in the twisties for a "normal" tires.

Most people I know with 500+ rwhp in their cars have multiple sets of wheels and tires... like personally I have 3 sets for the rear. Without AWD, its almost impossible to avoid.

This is very true. I have much less than 500 and I felt the need for 4 sets.

TopgunZ · 09-09-2014, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MidnightBlueZ

Right on, well enjoy! Guess it's Infidels turn next for forged POWA followed by me.

Then my turn. Hopefully before October!

Mr.Squeeze · 09-09-2014, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO

Hey Charles I'm now looking for some tires that will help me hookup in the rear. Any recommendations for 305/30/19? No drag radials and something that is not noisy.. Considering ps2's..

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Z&I · 09-09-2014, 08:17 PM

Thanks Cosmo ...
Couldn't quite figure out if that was you or not in the video ...

I did notice that there were NO warning/CEL lights ... Awesome Tune.

Didn't mean to get too too down on the ps2's ...

I'm on my 3rd set of rears (285's/295's) and the 2nd set of fronts.
Managed about 12k miles on the rears ... about 1 season's worth.
Stuck with them to avoid changing all 4 at once.
The car was my daily driver for about 3 years.

With the power you're making I don't think any tire is going to give you the traction solution you need.

On the Stillen SC'r I was making 420 whp and still able to light them up into 3rd. with the VDC off.

I did install the RaceLogic Traction Control in an attempt to tame the traction issue.

It works really well for normal/spirited driving...but the jury is still out for the dragstrip (at least for me that is).
The Launch Control feature is iffy and damn near useless.

The digital controller is not user friendly and takes forever to program and experiment with...but once it's set it is good to go.
And it does it's job well ...
Once you have it dialed in you can safely womp on the throttle and it will keep the car straight...even in the rain...and within reason of course.

You can also (permanently) turn off the factory VDC in the UpRev tune, which is good.
The Traction Control will then default to the RaceLogic.

The RaceLogic can be ordered with a plug and play harness which makes installation easier.

Food for Thought

Hotrodz · 09-09-2014, 11:02 PM

However... youre asking a lot of a tire. I literally do not recommend any 305/30/19 for a TT 370z

But if you must, go as aggressive competition grade as you are willing. I dont think you will find any of them to hook up first or second gear. The best I ran in that size was the Toyo R888 but it seemed like it lost a lot of its grip after a few weeks.

No more rear camber for you, dial it all out![/QUOTE]

So what do you recommend?

phunk · 09-10-2014, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

So what do you recommend?

The largest stickiest tires on the smallest diameter wheels you are willing to run, with the least amount of negative camber as you are willing to accept!

Attached is an image of the only thing I have found that will hook up first gear, and even then it takes a little heat in them. You have to change the rear brakes, and the handling isnt very good, and the VDC and ABS systems do not work. So its just a question of how bad you want to hook up and what you are willing to sacrifice when you want to do it.

valpozguy · 09-10-2014, 03:07 AM

Those style of tires will also put a ton more stress on the whole drive train as well. Just saying.

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phunk · 09-10-2014, 03:23 AM

Actually its the other way around. Not that there is really anything to worry about besides the axles anyway.

Z eliminator · 09-10-2014, 07:15 AM

The race logic TC is does not work at the drag strip. My car ran slower times with it.
But the car ran straight as an arrow.
there is no launch control for a 7 AT with that system.

I emailed them about this
If I ever get my built motor from GTM ,I will post how it works with the stage 3 set up.

" IT COULD BE A VERY LONG TIME TO GET THE MOTOR FROM GTM".
15 MONTHS AND STILL WAITING.

Z

phunk · 09-10-2014, 07:23 AM

Race Logic is an awesome system but I agree its not for the drag strip.

It doesnt actually increase traction, it just reduces power to dial back wheel slip. Sort of funny when you think about it... spending all that money to make more horsepower, then spending more money to buy a system that turns it back down, lol.

If you want to go faster, youve got to increase actual traction.

Z eliminator · 09-10-2014, 07:58 AM

If I ever get my engine from GTM I will be ordering the fuel system that we talked about a few months ago from you.

you are a great guy to talk to about fuel systems ..

Z

TopgunZ · 09-10-2014, 09:32 AM

Is this engine free or something? 15 months!? Fawk gtm. Go ipp!

Z&I · 09-10-2014, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

Race Logic is an awesome system but I agree its not for the drag strip.

It doesnt actually increase traction, it just reduces power to dial back wheel slip. Sort of funny when you think about it... spending all that money to make more horsepower, then spending more money to buy a system that turns it back down, lol.

If you want to go faster, you've got to increase actual traction.

Yes it is a bit ironic, isn't it ...

... Spinning the wheels and going sideways doesn't increase forward progress.

The (digital) Race Logic does have an available option that will allow you to increase the max slip rate from 25% to 50%.
Combine that with setting the initial(TC) engagement to 3500 rpm or so and you have a safety buffer that will allow you to still be aggressive and will react quicker than you in an emergency situation ... at least in theory.
That was one of the things I wanted to try before the motor went poof.

It still all boils down to knowing your car and maximizing available traction in any given circumstance.

09-09-2014, 02:43 PM	#1126 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,657 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 951234	Ya true, for non-competition tires I like the RE11. They really held great in the twisties for a "normal" tires. Most people I know with 500+ rwhp in their cars have multiple sets of wheels and tires... like personally I have 3 sets for the rear. Without AWD, its almost impossible to avoid. FPenvy likes this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

09-09-2014, 08:17 PM	#1131 (permalink)
Z&I Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 410 Drives: '09 370z 6MT FI Rep Power: 12	Thanks Cosmo ... Couldn't quite figure out if that was you or not in the video ... I did notice that there were NO warning/CEL lights ... Awesome Tune. Didn't mean to get too too down on the ps2's ... I'm on my 3rd set of rears (285's/295's) and the 2nd set of fronts. Managed about 12k miles on the rears ... about 1 season's worth. Stuck with them to avoid changing all 4 at once. The car was my daily driver for about 3 years. With the power you're making I don't think any tire is going to give you the traction solution you need. On the Stillen SC'r I was making 420 whp and still able to light them up into 3rd. with the VDC off. I did install the RaceLogic Traction Control in an attempt to tame the traction issue. It works really well for normal/spirited driving...but the jury is still out for the dragstrip (at least for me that is). The Launch Control feature is iffy and damn near useless. The digital controller is not user friendly and takes forever to program and experiment with...but once it's set it is good to go. And it does it's job well ... Once you have it dialed in you can safely womp on the throttle and it will keep the car straight...even in the rain...and within reason of course. You can also (permanently) turn off the factory VDC in the UpRev tune, which is good. The Traction Control will then default to the RaceLogic. The RaceLogic can be ordered with a plug and play harness which makes installation easier. Food for Thought __________________ . BB

09-09-2014, 11:02 PM	#1132 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	However... youre asking a lot of a tire. I literally do not recommend any 305/30/19 for a TT 370z But if you must, go as aggressive competition grade as you are willing. I dont think you will find any of them to hook up first or second gear. The best I ran in that size was the Toyo R888 but it seemed like it lost a lot of its grip after a few weeks. No more rear camber for you, dial it all out![/QUOTE] So what do you recommend? valpozguy likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

09-10-2014, 03:23 AM	#1135 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,657 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 951234	Actually its the other way around. Not that there is really anything to worry about besides the axles anyway. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

09-10-2014, 07:15 AM	#1136 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 18	The race logic TC is does not work at the drag strip. My car ran slower times with it. But the car ran straight as an arrow. there is no launch control for a 7 AT with that system. I emailed them about this If I ever get my built motor from GTM ,I will post how it works with the stage 3 set up. " IT COULD BE A VERY LONG TIME TO GET THE MOTOR FROM GTM". 15 MONTHS AND STILL WAITING. Z __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015. Last edited by Z eliminator; 09-10-2014 at 07:20 AM.

09-10-2014, 03:07 AM	#1134 (permalink)
valpozguy Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: valparaiso Posts: 501 Drives: 09 z Rep Power: 16	Those style of tires will also put a ton more stress on the whole drive train as well. Just saying. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2

09-10-2014, 07:23 AM	#1137 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,657 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 951234	Race Logic is an awesome system but I agree its not for the drag strip. It doesnt actually increase traction, it just reduces power to dial back wheel slip. Sort of funny when you think about it... spending all that money to make more horsepower, then spending more money to buy a system that turns it back down, lol. If you want to go faster, youve got to increase actual traction. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

09-10-2014, 07:58 AM	#1138 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 18	If I ever get my engine from GTM I will be ordering the fuel system that we talked about a few months ago from you. you are a great guy to talk to about fuel systems .. Z phunk, GaleForce and MidnightBlueZ like this. __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

09-10-2014, 09:32 AM	#1139 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6833	Is this engine free or something? 15 months!? Fawk gtm. Go ipp! elperuano likes this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

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