Stillen SC - put on your seat belts

TKomodo · 11-22-2013, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 1087

If you take the time to read my first attachment from DSPORT it clearly said under "fueling the fire" paragraph the injectors size.

I see what the article says BUT, the parts check list in the kit I have does not say 600cc nor is there anything on the injector itself that would help me identify whether it is 600cc or not.

JWillis72 · 11-22-2013, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TKomodo

I see what the article says BUT, the parts check list in the kit I have does not say 600cc nor is there anything on the injector itself that would help me identify whether it is 600cc or not.

Hmm.. I thought mine said it on them but maybe I got it off the paperwork. Did you buy it from Stillen? If so call them and ask.

1087 · 11-22-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Yeah, and just to be clear, me saying the pull is abnormally high isn't me saying that the car puts out more power than others.

It's me saying that dyno's correction factors are wrong.

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Yeah, either it's a high reading dyno all the time, or inflated for magazine use. I'm sure it's a blast to drive, but people looking to buy a Stillen kit need to understand 460whp is not the norm. At all.

Well guys... to be polite, a short sentence, your comments are laughable

Chuck33079 · 11-22-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 1087

Well guys... to be polite, a short sentence, your comments are laughable

Please explain. Your stock dyno is 15-20whp higher than usually seen here on dynojets. That skews your readings. That error is not linear, so the discrepancy increases as the output increases. Other members have had to replace most of the parts of the kit besides the blower to make 450+whp. What makes yours different? Is your car a factory freak? Are you running a different pulley than the standard kit? Or, much more likely, the dyno is inflated. The stock baseline shows this. 293 whp is unheard of for a stock car.

Not to mention the fact your on CA gas.

Chuck33079 · 11-22-2013, 01:58 PM

In addition, the magazine claims 1.72 whp from an oil change. An amount that low is within the realm of run-to-run dyno variance, and can't be attributed to the oil change. The numbers are "buy these products from our advertisers" numbers.

Are you aware these numbers aren't accurate? Have you ever dynoed the car at another location to verify these quite frankly unheard of numbers, or are you going off the word of the magazine?

It's just the peak numbers that are incorrect. When you look at the change from stock, the Stillen kit gave you 116 extra whp. The custom tune added another 44. These are in line with the experiences of others.

elperuano · 11-22-2013, 02:07 PM

Pow pow pow.. Winnarrrrr chuck.

TKomodo · 11-22-2013, 02:42 PM

Shamrock · 11-22-2013, 05:25 PM

Just dyno it elsewhere. Prove them wrong. 😊

thanks

Bart

JWillis72 · 11-22-2013, 05:42 PM

Shamrock, are you buying the Stillen kit?

JWillis72 · 11-22-2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamrock

Just dyno it elsewhere. Prove them wrong. 😊

thanks

Bart

Spending money to win a fight on a forum?

Shamrock · 11-22-2013, 05:45 PM

Already bought it. Havent opened boxes yet.

thanks

Bart

JWillis72 · 11-22-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamrock

Already bought it. Havent opened boxes yet.

thanks

Bart

Do yourself a favor a enjoy the kit without getting hung up on the numbers. The Stillen kit along with a good tune made my car a blast to drive and I hope it does the same for you.

future370zzz · 11-22-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

Do yourself a favor a enjoy the kit without getting hung up on the numbers. The Stillen kit along with a good tune made my car a blast to drive and I hope it does the same for you.

Good advice...some people are never satisfied with what they have whether it's 500hp or 1000hp.

That's part of modifying your car, it will always be a money pit but as long as we're happy at the end of the day.

ANMVQ · 11-22-2013, 07:11 PM

Just to add my.02 in cause I was down this road . The stock kit in NO SHAPE or form will make 460 WHP , just not going to happen . Before. I had my car custom tuned I only made 40 more WHP than my bolted tune. An to get to 460 WHP you have to change everything including the impeller on the SC

JWillis72 · 11-22-2013, 07:21 PM

My car is at 406WHP and 302 tq and it's a blast to drive. Is it the biggest whp? no! But if being the fastest Nissan is what matters you should start with a GTR and a huge budget! What I wanted was to add some kick to my 370 and after a good tune I am very happy with the car.

11-22-2013, 01:58 PM	#185 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	In addition, the magazine claims 1.72 whp from an oil change. An amount that low is within the realm of run-to-run dyno variance, and can't be attributed to the oil change. The numbers are "buy these products from our advertisers" numbers. Are you aware these numbers aren't accurate? Have you ever dynoed the car at another location to verify these quite frankly unheard of numbers, or are you going off the word of the magazine? It's just the peak numbers that are incorrect. When you look at the change from stock, the Stillen kit gave you 116 extra whp. The custom tune added another 44. These are in line with the experiences of others. elperuano, MyKindaGuise and 1087 like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent Last edited by Chuck33079; 11-22-2013 at 02:02 PM.

11-22-2013, 02:07 PM	#186 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 28	Pow pow pow.. Winnarrrrr chuck. Sh0velMan and MyKindaGuise like this.

11-22-2013, 07:11 PM	#194 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	Just to add my.02 in cause I was down this road . The stock kit in NO SHAPE or form will make 460 WHP , just not going to happen . Before. I had my car custom tuned I only made 40 more WHP than my bolted tune. An to get to 460 WHP you have to change everything including the impeller on the SC elperuano and Chuck33079 like this. __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

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