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Originally Posted by jwick You picking up a BP kit? No I haven't. I had the Powerlab kit with the Stillen kit on the 350. @ Sasha.. The blanket I

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Old 03-03-2014, 04:37 PM   #661 (permalink)
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You picking up a BP kit?
No I haven't. I had the Powerlab kit with the Stillen kit on the 350.


@ Sasha.. The blanket I had said it can be used for T3 or T4. Not sure how that translates but it was a bit saggy on the T3 and the T4 might be a tight fit.

I cant remember where this is addressed in the numerous threads on the BP kit but talking about all these heat issues makes me wonder. Have you ever looked into designing a heat shield as an option to the kit? Or would this truly not add any value in heat dissipation from the transmission?
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Old 03-03-2014, 04:47 PM   #662 (permalink)
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@ Sasha.. The blanket I had said it can be used for T3 or T4. Not sure how that translates but it was a bit saggy on the T3 and the T4 might be a tight fit.
I can speak from experience as I have both the turbo and blanket in hand. I seriously doubt the bag you are referring to will work. I bought the DEI turbo blanket for a T4 frame and because this turbo is a twin scroll, the bag does not cover the entire inlet side. It's close like probably 95ish percent but definitely not a complete cover.
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I can speak from experience as I have both the turbo and blanket in hand. I seriously doubt the bag you are referring to will work. I bought the DEI turbo blanket for a T4 frame and because this turbo is a twin scroll, the bag does not cover the entire inlet side. It's close like probably 95ish percent but definitely not a complete cover.
That sounds about right. The tangential T4 housings are large, but the twin scroll is very large.

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Old 03-03-2014, 05:55 PM   #664 (permalink)
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That sounds about right. The tangential T4 housings are large, but the twin scroll is very large.

Big boy power needs big boy turbine.
You aren't lying. Here's a pic I took the other day for a size reference.
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No issues should ever come up if the instructions are followed. There is plenty of room to keep everything plenty far enough from anything that will get hot.

Your PL turbo blanket will be waaaaaay too small for this turbine housing. You need a large T4 blanket.


If you're following the excellent instruction manual you will find the waste gate hoses (any of the kits additional hoses for that matter) don't go anywhere near the hot stuff. That is unless you are making an effort to test the temperature rating of the silicone hoses by wire tying them to the hot pipes. If that's the case... I say good luck to you.
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Sasha sent you a pm are you availabke atn to speak to you over the phone?
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I finished wrapping everything this evening. I tried to test fit a waste gate to the piping and I could not get clamps far enough closed to slide the bolt through. I double checked and there is no interference from the wrap. I think (did not try) I could get them on maybe if I used a pair of channel locks but it seemed wrong to take that much effort.

Are they supposed to require that level of force to get the clamps around the flanges? It doesn't seem like it considering the instructions say I have to clock them prior to tightening the clamps. There is no way to rotate the WG once the flange is tight and you still can't get the bolt through.
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Are the v bands for the bov and gates the same size? Maybe you are doing that.... Just a thought.
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Are the v bands for the bov and gates the same size? Maybe you are doing that.... Just a thought.
I didn't get to the BOV as I've not messed with any IC piping. The WG comes with two different clamps in the box. One (I'll call the inlet) attaches to the pipe leading to the turbo, the second (outlet) attached to the recirulated WG piping. I tried both WGs which leads me to believe its not a manufacturer error since both are the same. It is so tight that there is no way to rotate it and I had to pry the clamp back apart with a pair of needle nose just to get the clamps off.

Maybe someone that has done this can chime in or Sasha will tomorrow.
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I finished wrapping everything this evening. I tried to test fit a waste gate to the piping and I could not get clamps far enough closed to slide the bolt through. I double checked and there is no interference from the wrap. I think (did not try) I could get them on maybe if I used a pair of channel locks but it seemed wrong to take that much effort.

Are they supposed to require that level of force to get the clamps around the flanges? It doesn't seem like it considering the instruction say I have to clock them prior to tightening the clamps. There is no way to rotate the WG once the flange is tight and you still can't get the bolt through.
I clamped that sucker together with a channel lock. LOL It was tight for me too. That's the way I like it.
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I clamped that sucker together with a channel lock. LOL It was tight for me too. That's the way I like it.
You must be my brotha from a anotha motha, cuz I like the sh!t tight too.

Thanks man. I was just kind of scared to need to apply that much force.
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You must be my brotha from a anotha motha, cuz I like the sh!t tight too.

Thanks man. I was just kind of scared to need to apply that much force.
No seriously though, just clamp it tight enough so you can get the screw in. Just make sure you align things up first then put the screw in.
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That is a bit odd. It is possible that the machining of the flanges or clamps is a bit off, and they are tight for that reason. I have seen it a couple of times where there is bit of a burr on the outside edge of the flange, and it can cause a very tight fit of the clamp.
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That is a bit odd. It is possible that the machining of the flanges or clamps is a bit off, and they are tight for that reason. I have seen it a couple of times where there is bit of a burr on the outside edge of the flange, and it can cause a very tight fit of the clamp.
It was decently tight for me. I ended up using a channel lock to get the screw in. wondering if heat would loosen them up.

Sounds like it might be time for a check up this summer.

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Thinking about buying this kit. From the instructions its looks as though it uses the stock headers... Which is great because those are a pain in the *** to take off. Only problem is I installed momentum DE headers. Anyway I can get the kit fabricated with the DE fittings?

Also, is the car anymore unsafe without the crash bar? Or is that mainly to protect the engine and engine bay componenets?
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