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COSMO 11-15-2013 09:31 PM

shove a pineapple up their *** ??
I guessing you didn't understand what the admin said about staying on subject. But hey man if that sort of thing gets you off you might want to start your own thread on that..

1slow370 11-15-2013 09:39 PM

1. spohn he owns a car that is called a skyline 370gt that is what it says on the sales paperwork if you buy that car anywhere except the USA, You didn't know so you ended up taking a shot at a fellow member out of ignorance and got called out on it. I called GTM today over an unrelated matter and you can tell Mike was coming off of something so he was sick and everyone who took a shot at him for caring more about his health than going to work than typing up an update for them can burn in hell and on that note you guys have never seen little nicky have you?

SPOHN 11-15-2013 09:54 PM

You go from one subject to next with clarity or agreement on the first. Who's even talking about Mike and taking shots? I'm done. Go ahead and get your last word in I'm sure you will. Last word makes people feel superior.

1slow370 11-15-2013 09:57 PM

Thank you and i will take that opportunity by asking you a question. How do you explain this as anything other than taking an ignorant shot at a fellow member "But hey not everyone can have a Skyline 370Z GT. What ever the hell that is? " -Spohn

Edit:removed an extraneous "is"

09nismo498 11-15-2013 10:03 PM

So can we get back on topic?!?!? Let the winers wine :shakes head:. Anyways... I talked to mike today, things seem to be coming along. Seems like the kits will be finished very soon. Can't wait, I already started tearing the z apart today since it is done for the year anyways :)

SPOHN 11-15-2013 10:13 PM

If you have sides notes feel free to PM me.

On topic. Does anyone know the ups and downs besides exhaust note to running a true dual exhaust with absolutely no crossover pipes connecting the two. This is what I'll be turning my Greddy into. I hope it screams.

elperuano 11-15-2013 10:15 PM

I got the 3" catback gtm exhaust. Quiet but kinda loud on wot. I am seriously considering just going straight pipes all the way out for a ridiculously loud sound and to shot fireballs. In Florida we don't have emissions so I feel I maybe be leaving some power on the table with catback system.

Alstann 11-15-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2571044)
If you have sides notes feel free to PM me.

On topic. Does anyone know the ups and downs besides exhaust note to running a true dual exhaust with absolutely no crossover pipes connecting the two. This is what I'll be turning my Greddy into. I hope it screams.

From what I can tell, having the two exhausts linked in some sort of manner would probably help maintain equal exhaust pressure, and such, improve scavenging effects. This is due to the change in pressure changing the speed of sound in that particular exhaust tube, and thereby changing how quickly the pressure wave propagates from the exhaust valve to the collector.

This is my practical and theoretical knowledge speaking, and it may not apply to FI cars. Haha.

As for benefits to run a true dual system? I dunno. Weight savings by cutting off a tiny pipe? :icon18:

Alstann 11-15-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2571046)
I got the 3" catback gtm exhaust. Quiet but kinda loud on wot. I am seriously considering just going straight pipes all the way out for a ridiculously loud sound and to shot fireballs. In Florida we don't have emissions so I feel I maybe be leaving some power on the table with catback system.

Are the GTM mufflers straight-through? I doubt you get any more appreciable power by cutting those out.

09nismo498 11-15-2013 10:29 PM

I'm running fast intentions no resonators

SPOHN 11-15-2013 11:18 PM

I'm definitely getting rid of the resonators. The crossover pipe is right there but not in the way. But as mentioned having equal pressure is the question. Is that is a issue I wonder why the crossover is a little more than half way back. I assume it doesn't matter as long as it happens before exit.

mikey1600 11-16-2013 12:21 AM

I'm running an Invidia system with Berk HFC, going to keep the cats in just due to regulations here if we get reemed and have to drive over the pits and them check the underbody, massive fines for no cats. (doubt it will happen, haven't even been pulled over for my car yet in 2 years)

I remember looking through all the exhausts years ago, the ones without any crossover seemed to have more rasp and tinnyness to them, pretty sure the x-over pipes and resonators helped with negating this a little.

Alkatraz 11-16-2013 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600 (Post 2571127)
I'm running an Invidia system with Berk HFC, going to keep the cats in just due to regulations here if we get reemed and have to drive over the pits and them check the underbody, massive fines for no cats. (doubt it will happen, haven't even been pulled over for my car yet in 2 years)

I remember looking through all the exhausts years ago, the ones without any crossover seemed to have more rasp and tinnyness to them, pretty sure the x-over pipes and resonators helped with negating this a little.

Just do what im planning Mickey. Leave the HFC's on to get it engineered and then whack TP's on once you have the paperwork sorted. No cop is going to be able to see your cats on the road or even by sticking his head underneath. As long as it is not obnoxiously loud, you'll be fine.

The HFC's will be blown to pieces within a month or so and probably resemble TP's on the inside anyway lol.

COSMO 11-16-2013 04:45 AM

Spohn I just had my stillen exhaust 75% redone. Let me explain, with the stillen the exhaust diameter varied in size from joint to joint so what I did was start from the gtm test pipes and go back with a True 2.5 OD piping for each side. I also had the shop weld back in the resonators and the sound is like no other. It sounds like a Porsche but a bit louder and yes the turbo's do in fact spool up a lot faster. I know to most that might sound crazy but I liked the sound of the stillen before going FI and took a gamble on the modification but it paid off. Now I have an exhaust that I know one has and it sounds GREAT. When I go for my tune this Monday at z1 I will snap a few pics...

SPOHN 11-16-2013 06:48 AM

Yeah I have the same issue. The Greddy is mostly 2.75" but where it's connects to the TP's or in my case it will be the 3" downpipes Greddy hads is reduce down to what I believe is 2.5" to a flange. I assume so it would mount to most setups.

So that being said I have to remove the Greddy reducer ( the hole section of 2.5") then add another reducer from 3" (with 3" flange to mount to the the downpipe) to 2.75" to weld back into the Greddy. So right there is about $80 in parts. Then buying pipe to remove the resonators is another $80 then what ever it may cost to Tig weld all this.

Alstann 11-16-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2571106)
I'm definitely getting rid of the resonators. The crossover pipe is right there but not in the way. But as mentioned having equal pressure is the question. Is that is a issue I wonder why the crossover is a little more than half way back. I assume it doesn't matter as long as it happens before exit.

Yeah, IIRC, the crossover is near the middle, but more towards the rear on the Ti-C exhaust.

Exhaust scavenging is a tricky game. It's something you can actually calculate, but at the end of the day, the best way is to just experiment with different setups. All in all, I would keep the crossover. Like another poster said, the cross over also helps reduce unwanted frequencies and raspiness, since the two sides will collide and create a standing wave for that particular resonance frequency.

Another thing to note - since we have a v6, our exhaust pulses are in thirds for each bank, and that makes pressure wave propagation a bastard to figure out, especially when you remove the balancing aspect of a crossover.

1slow370 11-18-2013 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Alkatraz (Post 2571152)
Just do what im planning Mickey. Leave the HFC's on to get it engineered and then whack TP's on once you have the paperwork sorted. No cop is going to be able to see your cats on the road or even by sticking his head underneath. As long as it is not obnoxiously loud, you'll be fine.

The HFC's will be blown to pieces within a month or so and probably resemble TP's on the inside anyway lol.

Must be nice if the Australian popo's dont have exhaust sniffers in their cars like the ones here in the peoples republic of California

I think it would be neat if someone did a run with straight dumps so we could see what the theoretical best exhaust would do vs some common ones like a fast intentions or gtm3inch that way you could ask yourself if having it too loud would be worth it.

Alkatraz 11-18-2013 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2572790)
Must be nice if the Australian popo's dont have exhaust sniffers in their cars like the ones here in the peoples republic of California

I think it would be neat if someone did a run with straight dumps so we could see what the theoretical best exhaust would do vs some common ones like a fast intentions or gtm3inch that way you could ask yourself if having it too loud would be worth it.

Actually the laws are really strict over here, its just a matter of being a little bit clever to get away with things.

The cops here can pull you over and put a 'yellow sticker' (defect notice) on your car simply based on their opinion that something on the car may be illegal. They don't really need emissions testers, if they think its smells, yellow sticker for you! Even if you have all of the paper work to prove that everything is legal, you will still have to take time out of your day and pay $80+ to get the yellow sticker removed. Unfortunately we don't have a bill of rights to protect us over here. Silly laws come in all of the time. :(

That being said, if you drive like a moron and act rude to the cops, then you will have more troubles than if you don't. The cars that get picked on here are highly modified Australian V8's and anything that looks JDM. Thankfully the 370z and G37 look more European so they don't get picked on.

Anyone have any pictures of a 370z with side pipes??? :P

mikey1600 11-18-2013 04:02 AM

Haha not a bad idea, although I know the cats will be blown to bits, won't be to bad to just leave them as is :)

I dunno if you are running a non-standard exhaust yet, but mine is fkn loud at full revs already, don't think I'd want it any louder especially as it's my daily, moreso my girlfriend can hear me coming home from over a km away if I get into it anywhere home lol.

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Originally Posted by Alkatraz (Post 2571152)
Just do what im planning Mickey. Leave the HFC's on to get it engineered and then whack TP's on once you have the paperwork sorted. No cop is going to be able to see your cats on the road or even by sticking his head underneath. As long as it is not obnoxiously loud, you'll be fine.

The HFC's will be blown to pieces within a month or so and probably resemble TP's on the inside anyway lol.


Alkatraz 11-18-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600 (Post 2572834)
Haha not a bad idea, although I know the cats will be blown to bits, won't be to bad to just leave them as is :)

I dunno if you are running a non-standard exhaust yet, but mine is fkn loud at full revs already, don't think I'd want it any louder especially as it's my daily, moreso my girlfriend can hear me coming home from over a km away if I get into it anywhere home lol.

I'm running the Fast Intentions cat back with 12" resonators and non-resonated HFCs in my 370GT and its reasonably loud but not too bad. Ive had cops behind me at the lights before and they haven't blinked. It would obviously be a different story if I was at wot but with normal cruising its not too loud.

TP's will obviously make it a little louder but the turbos will quieten it down as well, so hopefully it doesnt change too much because i love the sound right now. I went to a skid pan day last weekend and everyone was commenting on how awesome the car sounds. Had the same comments from a bunch of V8's at the drags a month or so ago which is a pretty big compliment. Nothing sounds as good as a big, worked V8 but they liked the sounds of the little V6 enough to come and ask me about it.

SAM@GTM 11-18-2013 07:39 PM

Update: the BLM technician came in today and got started on setting up the machine.

SPOHN 11-18-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 2573948)
Update: the BLM technician came in today and got started on setting up the machine.

Party time. Get the beer.

09nismo498 11-18-2013 09:45 PM

One step closer!

DEpointfive0 11-18-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2573951)
Party time. Get the beer hookers and blow.

Fixed :tup:

7AT_Z 11-18-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2566516)
It's been building but it simmers down with a couple of sentences every other month. But I'm done, my wife's upset. My cars just sitting there and will continue to just sit there for 2 years due to this crap. I'm done I'm calling tomorrow for a full refund. I'm not going to go fi. I'm not even going to probably keep the car anymore. This has really really ruined it for me. I had such high hopes this was going too be my first boosted car besides the ricer nitrous set up in my Mach. That I don't really count.

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I knew you would never go FI. Everyone knew you were all talk lol

SPOHN 11-18-2013 10:43 PM

That tech better buy you guys lunch as long as he's there.

mikey1600 11-21-2013 04:30 AM

okay little bit of excitement again, ordered my boost controller and spark plugs haha ;)

went with this - http://www.gfb.com.au/whats-new/prod...ook-g-force-ii

was recommended couple pages back I believe, I was going to get the HKS EVC-6 but this thing looks pretty good for half the price

also got the HKS plugs

BlkNismo 11-21-2013 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 2573948)
Update: the BLM technician came in today and got started on setting up the machine.

glad to see things are moving in regards to bender.

whats the current status on the cast parts? Have they arrived?

Dzel 11-21-2013 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 7AT_Z (Post 2574205)
I knew you would never go FI. Everyone knew you were all talk lol

If I was all talk I wouldn't of paid up front there biznitch

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Dzel 11-21-2013 12:15 PM

While we're on the subject of all talk I still haven't received my money back I called today and Sam said that they will be sending a CHECK! Not the "it'll take 5 days" so looks like I'm getting screwed again.

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Dzel 11-21-2013 12:19 PM

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elperuano 11-21-2013 12:44 PM

Snail mail or overnight express mail?

COSMO 11-21-2013 12:47 PM

Just think you may be waiting even longer for a built motor from them when your engine goes like mine did...

puckshaw 11-21-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2577693)
While we're on the subject of all talk I still haven't received my money back I called today and Sam said that they will be sending a CHECK! Not the "it'll take 5 days" so looks like I'm getting screwed again.

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Ugh that's a total pain in the ***. I haven't seen my refund yet either and was planning on calling to see what was going on soon too. I'm sure this is going to take forever.

Dzel 11-21-2013 12:52 PM

I called again and Sam is looking into it

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Dzel 11-21-2013 12:53 PM

I tried to catch my post until he calls me back to see what happens

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Dzel 11-21-2013 02:00 PM

Oh and in case no one knows that 7at guys was nitrous the over bite pimple faced guy that scammed everyone on the forum. Just food for thought.

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Chuck33079 11-21-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2577861)
Oh and in case no one knows that 7at guys was nitrous the over bite pimple faced guy that scammed everyone on the forum. Just food for thought.

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That was Jared? Huh. His post history was pretty suspect. It seemed like a new account for an old member. Did he get tired of taking selfies in the mirror with other guys? :rofl2:

Dzel 11-21-2013 02:04 PM

Lol I have no idea how the forum gods missed it. But yeah he's back at it again.

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Chuck33079 11-21-2013 02:07 PM

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Lol I have no idea how the forum gods missed it. But yeah he's back at it again.

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And he's got an active "For Sale" thread. I guess he's got some bills to pay.


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