i'd reckon pretty safe. you'd want a transmission cooler and should probably go for a valve body upgrade too from GTM. in gears 6 and 7 you should stay out of boost

In all due respect, what did you expect?

You have dyno numbers, with no proof of such a vehicle ever running. There are no miles on this kit, nothing. Nothing running, nothing being tested. I was scared off this kit, because I did NOT want to be a test mule when paying for a finished kit. I don't pay for promises, it shouldn't work that way.

F.I. did not make their kit available UNTIL they had an operating prototype, this prototype is running flawlessly, has been and now has mileage behind it.

You guys keep ******* around with phone calls and "private" information, yet there's nothing out there.

I am patiently waiting on my FI kit because a)worth it and b)it exists! I get updates that are available to ALL buyers and not used to push their product.

Best of luck to you guys tho, I hope it all works out.

You act as if FI is rocket science. GTM has been pushing the envelope for many years. No testing needs to be done. That's not the issue. Your argument is very invalid. Your not involved so get the hell out. But I'm sure you'll come back some other off the wall passage that you think will justify your actions. People don't know how to keep there mouth shut and have to get that last word in. I'm sure you'll think its funny. I assure you it will be lame and everyone will be laughing at you. Now go justify spending 10K+ on a FI kit that will make the same numbers as this kit on a stock block. Lol.

Damn truth right there.

Until you have to pay for the hidden costs of chinese components...........

SPOHN feisty! Wish you the best man!

tl:dr - Until there is a prototype with miles racking up and proof of this, don't expect a ship date, it's that simple. Anything else is just silly.

As the day is long

I would not have your patience, I am actually in talks with my shop to go FI and this kit will probably will not be on the list regardless of how good of a kit is due to the wait alone, if anything return all the money back and charge it when its out with all of the delays.

Specially on a full track car like yours, I'm at the track pretty much every other weekend, U bet my *** I will flip if I can't track it for even past 2 months!!

This is basically what I wrote about 10 pages back. Anyone who was suprised when it was delayed massively is a little naive. Big project = Big potential delays.

The lack of communication whilst holding peoples money is the issue here really. I'm willing to wait as long as it takes but I truely hope that GTM learn a little about communication from this. When mistakes happen, its how they are dealt with that determines peoples final opinion of a business.

That said.........Gimme My Boost!!!! :icon17:

Well said. For me now it's the PRINCIPLE . All these guys talking about delays are expected. I've been here the most and very supportive of GTM always. I've talked to GTM a lot. I've received a least two dozen PM's from about 4 different guys asking for my support to see them threw this. People asking me questions about how they should run there kit. So on and so on. I'm just highly stressed about it and pretty sure at the moment I'm about done. I'll support GTM still but for my personal reason I can't go no longer.

Sorry to hear it. Are you going to go a different route or just drop it all together?

I need to crunch numbers and look at options. Not looking good.

I hope you work it all out and get something good going.

It's a hard choice for me if I did want to back out. If I don't go with this kit I will not go FI at all

Sent with TapAhoe now Free

Thissss! At the time I went boost there wasn't many options. Now there's a bunch of options. But for now I am happy.

For me it's coming up with the installation costs. I'll be taking it to Z1 (from Orlando) to do the install and they're NOT CHEAP. I still have to come up with money for an oil cooler and radiator. Gonna need gauges and probably a boost controller. I knew I would be needing this stuff and factored the cost in when I made the purchase (paid in full on first day). But with a wife and three kids and one job for the household things change, I HAD the money back in July/August when I thought the kit was coming out. Now I have to sell a bunch of sh*t and con my wife into taking some money out of the safe to get it done.

Thanks SPOHN for the question or two I threw at you, hang in there.

From a fellow enthusiast to another, I hope you can stick it out. Always loved your build man. :tup:

Thanks. I've done a lot and still have a good bit of cool mods coming that are unseen. Sticking it out? Not sure. I will be calling first thing in the morning. Tomorrow will be judgement day :eek:. Not sure if there's anything that can be said to save this deal. Especially since I don't take free offers.

I do wish you guys the best and stick with it. For me it's strictly personal. I come to know Sam and he's a super cool guy and hope to remain friends after.

Um they've had a prototype for quite some time. In fact, they let me take it for a test drive months ago.

SPOHN, I feel for you. I've been in your boat a time or two myself. It doesn't feel good. You're the only one that can make that decision. And you're going to be second guessing yourself after you make it. :(

I've never said anything much in this thread. I want to be boosted too. But I'm not going to put big money into a group buy until I can see the finished product. I can go either way, this kit or FI. I got the money. But neither company has put a kit in anyone's hands yet. The general public. So, I'm holding back.

Yeah this had me confused as well.

Check out my thread on myg37.com
GTM MHI Twin Turbo Kit Roll Call - MyG37

Wattles is the guy who has had the 16G kit on his car for months now! Or are you guys saying that there is no 370z with the kit installed? G37 or 370z = practically the same platform.

The demo car I drove was a 370.

Spohn I hope you stick it out but I know exactly where your coming from. Keep me posted. How many have backed out already?

This is the nail on the head. I honestly just cannot get my head around what's going on here. Especially, knowing the sensitivity of the delays, getting on here and stating that you are going to post a finish schedule by such and such a date, and then blowing that schedule too. It does not inspire confidence. It is terrible PR. And it whips people up into a frenzy.

It's even worse that the guy who gave them a test car isn't getting updates.

I agree, I paid for my kit in full with a personal check shortly after they started accepting money for the kit. I could be on here fussing and moaning or I can be patient.

Well I'm taking it as it comes (with no Vaseline).

Remember I told you guys a happy wife is a happy life... Well my wife is pissed because of all this. This is my first car that I've built with her around. So she thinks it's always like this. So instead of doing the install like I wanted early next year I will have to wait till the year after next! Just cause of not getting any updates or parts.

Sent with TapAhoe

I'll fly out and help you install it.:tup:

Still waiting to hear something TODAY. and TODAY only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No one has even logged in today either.

it's not today anymore ..... past business hrs!!

there will be an update today any minute. just got off the phone with mike

Update: We finally got a response from our casting company today on the status of the cast parts that we have had on order with them. They are telling us that we can expect to have the parts within the next 30 days. The parts we have on order are our new, updated cast manifolds, new turbine outlets for the factory cats, and new O2 sensor housings for our modular 3” downpipes.

As for our mandrel bender, there have been numerous setbacks with the bender supplier. For starters, we were supposed to have the dies in hand before the end of this month as of their most recent schedule. That has been pushed back since the original wiper dies were not leaving a desirable finish on the bent pipes and had to be reworked. This of course was after our metal supplier sent the incorrect temper piping to the bending company to test the dies and ensure they work correctly. The bending company is estimating that we will have the dies in hand on November 8th. They expect that they can have the bender setup, up and running sometime between November 11th and the 15th.

Please be advised that this is information that is passed on to us on when we can expect things to happen. Given all the setbacks we have seen thus far, this schedule is preliminary and not set in stone. As such, this schedule is subject to change.

As we get information in that changes any of the projected dates, we will post up the information. Also, bear in mind that once the parts come in, we will need to process them all, do quality control and then start packaging up the kits to ship them out.

We have a system in place that will allow us to ship the kits very quickly and we are already working on putting together the components that we already have in stock in anticipation for the arrival of the final components. Without going into great detail, we have a system in place that will allow us to put a turbo kit together complete, in a box, ready to ship within 2 hours.

We will also be posting two new threads. One will be about the latest results from car that got our first iteration of the MHI kit. The car had 10,000 miles on the kit and we brought it back in to tear it down and inspect the system. We will be sharing what we discovered and give some more insight into this new system. The second thread will be about the GTX upgrade option.

Thank you guys, for your continued patience.

And like 50 people are in the thread lol

Damn. I was only half joking saying it was going to be thanksgiving, but it looks like that's not too far off.

So it sounds like if there are no more setbacks, the best case scenario is that kits start shipping in late November or early December.

That would be best case scenario. No one is working hard during holidays. I'm still sticking with late Jan early Feb.

Let's get some money going on this!

I really hope this is the last of the delays - I doubt I would wait much more than this, heh.

Still, I'm glad to start seeing more concrete dates.

I elect SPOHN to hold the pot! :stirthepot::stirthepot::stirthepot::stirthepot:

OH and nice update. Should really have had this coming soon(tm) thread from the get-go to soothe everyones minds. A few pictures are worth a few thousand words(and phone calls!). Gluck everyone!

I'll set the over/under on the day of the super bowl.

Well can't wait till then should be nice enjoying my TT kit during the holidays jiji :P

During??? Lol