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fairlady_z34 12-17-2013 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 09nismo498 (Post 2614484)
I would really hope its before summer of 2014...

i hope it does so i can get in on the group buy by then lol

tower74 12-17-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 09nismo498 (Post 2614497)
If its summer 2014 I may just go buy a gtr lol

DO IT!!!! It will be cheaper in the long run. You can pick a used one up for around $60k and spend $5k and have a 600awhp car...JS :tup:

zguynate 12-17-2013 10:57 PM

Just for the record I never accused GTM of anything illegal. I DID sign a contract knowing that a "restocking fee" would be charged. I'm mad at myself for doing it, however also irritated with GTM because I know that the contractual agreement wasn't a two way street. If I paid in full, I still would have no product. In the end I lost money, and it's natural for me to be upset. The communication issues with GTM is unacceptable. When the customer has to make repeated follow up calls to an email requesting an invoice for parts, that is a major disservice. Especially after each call, the customer is told it will be done by the end of the day and you already have the customers money. It's bad that you get called out for having horrid communication, yet seemingly do nothing about it. Lastly, absolutely ZERO effort whatsoever to retain a customer who is displeased with the company (at least in my experience).

This will be my last post in this thread because I no longer have a spot in the group buy. This will also be the last time I do any business with GTM. I shouldn't as a customer have to strive for the companies business, it should be the other way around. It's a shame because GTM has done good things for this platform and has some great things in the future that I would love to get my hands on. I am easily one of the most reasonable guys you will ever meet. I often see reasoning in people's decisions that have ill effects on me. Unfortunately this is not one of those situations. I have no doubts that the MMHI turbo kit will be a great product with many happy users.

To everyone still in the group buy, you will love boost (if you don't already know lol) and I hope the product will be delivered sooner than later so you can burn tires faster than you make money!

Alkatraz 12-18-2013 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 2614695)
Just for the record I never accused GTM of anything illegal. I DID sign a contract knowing that a "restocking fee" would be charged. I'm mad at myself for doing it, however also irritated with GTM because I know that the contractual agreement wasn't a two way street. If I paid in full, I still would have no product. In the end I lost money, and it's natural for me to be upset. The communication issues with GTM is unacceptable. When the customer has to make repeated follow up calls to an email requesting an invoice for parts, that is a major disservice. Especially after each call, the customer is told it will be done by the end of the day and you already have the customers money. It's bad that you get called out for having horrid communication, yet seemingly do nothing about it. Lastly, absolutely ZERO effort whatsoever to retain a customer who is displeased with the company (at least in my experience).

This will be my last post in this thread because I no longer have a spot in the group buy. This will also be the last time I do any business with GTM. I shouldn't as a customer have to strive for the companies business, it should be the other way around. It's a shame because GTM has done good things for this platform and has some great things in the future that I would love to get my hands on. I am easily one of the most reasonable guys you will ever meet. I often see reasoning in people's decisions that have ill effects on me. Unfortunately this is not one of those situations. I have no doubts that the MMHI turbo kit will be a great product with many happy users.

To everyone still in the group buy, you will love boost (if you don't already know lol) and I hope the product will be delivered sooner than later so you can burn tires faster than you make money!

Spoken like a true gentlemen. Hats off to you sir!
Good luck with which ever route you go and I hope that all of your future dealings are much more pleasant!

Dzel 12-18-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 2614695)
Just for the record I never accused GTM of anything illegal. I DID sign a contract knowing that a "restocking fee" would be charged. I'm mad at myself for doing it, however also irritated with GTM because I know that the contractual agreement wasn't a two way street. If I paid in full, I still would have no product. In the end I lost money, and it's natural for me to be upset. The communication issues with GTM is unacceptable. When the customer has to make repeated follow up calls to an email requesting an invoice for parts, that is a major disservice. Especially after each call, the customer is told it will be done by the end of the day and you already have the customers money. It's bad that you get called out for having horrid communication, yet seemingly do nothing about it. Lastly, absolutely ZERO effort whatsoever to retain a customer who is displeased with the company (at least in my experience).

This will be my last post in this thread because I no longer have a spot in the group buy. This will also be the last time I do any business with GTM. I shouldn't as a customer have to strive for the companies business, it should be the other way around. It's a shame because GTM has done good things for this platform and has some great things in the future that I would love to get my hands on. I am easily one of the most reasonable guys you will ever meet. I often see reasoning in people's decisions that have ill effects on me. Unfortunately this is not one of those situations. I have no doubts that the MMHI turbo kit will be a great product with many happy users.

To everyone still in the group buy, you will love boost (if you don't already know lol) and I hope the product will be delivered sooner than later so you can burn tires faster than you make money!

At the same time you would of saved everyone a headache if you would of stated about the fees in the contract!

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MMC Racing 12-18-2013 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2614917)
At the same time you would of saved everyone a headache if you would of stated about the fees in the contract!

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There are two sides to performance of a contract. What he should have done is paid in full the kit when ready to cancel, thus fulfilling his side of the contract. When GTM could not deliver the kit, they would have to give a full refund.

Mkai0 12-18-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 2614676)
DO IT!!!! It will be cheaper in the long run. You can pick a used one up for around $60k and spend $5k and have a 600awhp car...JS :tup:

My wife initially told me to do this over a year ago because she knows how I am. When it is all said and done, a GTR will satisfy your power craving for many years to come.

Dzel 12-18-2013 08:34 AM

Well I'm a grown man and I can see when I'm wrong. I do apologize about the whole fee thing my understanding was that there were no restocking fees. I did not know about the contract. A contract is a contract. Period.

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Diabel 12-18-2013 09:14 AM

Thats why he paid it in full.

I expected more concrete update, in this one I can't find anything related to the lacks of communication, rare updates and overall poor client service. Not to mention that we deserves some appologies for it. Moreover, I find it arrogant, the main message is: it will be ready when its ready, stay if you want, if not pay the fee and get lost.

Good luck guys with this project, I'm out. I've contacted with Sasha from Boosted Performance, great guy and awsome client service. Imagine he replies for my emails! Only couple of his kits left, ready to ship :)

When you will be waiting and begging for another crappy update in Summer 2014 I will be boosted already for months !

Cell 12-18-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Alkatraz (Post 2614422)
If you can show me the US Federal or Califorinia state law that states this, then I will happily agree with you. I am at a disadvantage not being an American but I see no reason why they would have to have the item physically on the shelf in order to arrange a layaway plan. If the seller cant deliver the product by the time that the last payment is made, then they are liable.

The Feds and California will not go into detail as to what restocking fee and layaway means. This is usually done in a contract between two parties.

Like I said before, if the terms are not defined in the contract, it's up in the air as to what it really means.

As for me, I still stand my ground as to what the two terms mean. You cannot restock something that was never in possession by the customer and you cannot put a product in layaway when it is not finished.

Unless someone is willing to post the definitions on the contract, it is pointless trying to argue it. In civil court here in the US, person only needs to prove 51% to win the case. If it is not defined in the contract, chances are the customer would win if he/she decided to take it to court.

Chuck33079 12-18-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 2615368)
The Feds and California will not go into detail as to what restocking fee and layaway means. This is usually done in a contract between two parties.

Like I said before, if the terms are not defined in the contract, it's up in the air as to what it really means.

As for me, I still stand my ground as to what the two terms mean. You cannot restock something that was never in possession by the customer and you cannot put a product in layaway when it is not finished.

Unless someone is willing to post the definitions on the contract, it is pointless trying to argue it. In civil court here in the US, person only needs to prove 51% to win the case. If it is not defined in the contract, chances are the customer would win if he/she decided to take it to court.

:iagree:

Ambiguity in contracts favors the buyer, not the seller.

faceglide 12-18-2013 11:47 AM

Legal or not. Its still a daft move...just give the man his money, I am sure he has suffered enough.

Good luck everyone and chill out, boooooost.

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m3chhawk 12-18-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 2614428)
we should have taken our competitor's hard line of a non-refundable deposit.

you don't have to spend $10k to get an awesome twin turbo kit for your 370z/G37.

Still taking shots at the competition I see....:facepalm:

Cell 12-18-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk (Post 2615403)
Still taking shots at the competition I see....:facepalm:

He is right. You don't have to spend 10k for a awesome twin turbo kit. You can spend 7k and get an awesome twin scroll single bb turbo kit. :) lol

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Dzel 12-18-2013 12:58 PM

I see what you did there

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