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SPOHN 04-20-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2276462)
Yes I'm building my car for track use only after I do a little damage to the stock block at 10 psi for a year or so. 700 is my magic number and this can be achieved with GTM's stroker kit some bottom end work and some MOAR boost!

IMO 450 is about good enough for most tracks. If its a tight track a NA can smoke you. I wouldn't want big HP with all that lag for road courses. So many variables.

Baer383 04-20-2013 03:36 PM

I think stock power is too much ,I'm going back to my prius.:roflpuke2:

NitrousZ34 04-20-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2276465)
I think he was referring to a hole package. Built motor, TT kit itself, and all the goodies that go with making a 800 HP car. Full out return fuel system, built heads, and if he went with a full stand alone ECU. That's easy territory.

Also I like the fact that this MHI kit with 18G turbos on a built motor will put down some serious numbers. I don't think you would have to upgrade to Garret turbos. Maybe just rebuild the ones you have while your there. You'd be more than happy enough.

I thought he was talking about just a built motor. Of course it can be that much. It could even be more than that with all the higher end parts. I guess only time will tell what I end up doing

airikrankin 04-20-2013 03:44 PM

any chance of getting pics of the manifolds? i would also like to see the setup and down pipes for the ext wg

SPOHN 04-20-2013 04:17 PM

^ can't be to much different from there other kits. There's only so much room that things can be routed/ mounted.

I also have to come up with some more dough to run blowoff valves.hehe

Footloose301 04-20-2013 04:27 PM

I'm wondering whether I should install the kit as it comes and then add the guages and clutch and other misc stuff as I come up with the money OR should I let it collect dust until I get everything around....

Keeping an eye on boost would be nice

SPOHN 04-20-2013 05:34 PM

Boost gauge would be my first. I wait to see how long the clutch can go. No real sense in changing it till. But you never know. Lol

tower74 04-20-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NitrousZ34 (Post 2276432)
I wouldn't be able to afford the Garret kit right now and if everything can be switched out to the Garret kit, then it makes sense to do so if its cheaper. I could have fun with this kit with a stock block, and when I'm ready to build, go ahead and swap stuff out to make some big power.

Tower how in the hell does it cost $34k to build a motor lol. Please tell me if I'm wrong or something isn't right here... But my friend just built his VQ35HR for about $6k. Carillo rods, Carillo Pistons, Jwt cams, full valvetrain (not sure exactly what brand) ARP bolts, plus other little things and it literally came out to be $6K. The 35HR isn't that much different than the 37vhr. Say a motor build costs around $10k, paired with a $9k turbo kit that can handle 800rwhp... I'm good with that

Stage 5 fuel system: $3400-----Have to feed the girl
New 4.2L with core : $15,400----was going to keep original engine as a back up.
Boost controller, race logic t/c..to control the hp, new clutch to handle the power, new exhaust, gauges etc.
You can't just thrown in a few parts and hop for the best with 800hp. You need to control it and make sure everything else will not explode the first time you get on it.
But hey good luck with your thought of you only need an engine build and larger turbo :facepalm:

tower74 04-20-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by airikrankin (Post 2276481)
any chance of getting pics of the manifolds? i would also like to see the setup and down pipes for the ext wg

Go to Sam's page on here. He has a full photo layout of this kit.:tiphat:

SPOHN 04-20-2013 05:51 PM

Nissan 370Z Forum - SAM@GTM's Album: GTM TDO5-H 20,18 AND 16 G TURBO KIT - Picture

Dzel 04-20-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2276620)
Boost gauge would be my first. I wait to see how long the clutch can go. No real sense in changing it till. But you never know. Lol

:iagree:

tower74 04-20-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 2276556)
I'm wondering whether I should install the kit as it comes and then add the guages and clutch and other misc stuff as I come up with the money OR should I let it collect dust until I get everything around....

Keeping an eye on boost would be nice

Agree with SPOHN, gauges and then the clutch. If you are planning to pull more out the kit then a 3" exhaust and clutch upgrade is a must. Like everyone else has said a thousand times on here...550whp is as far as you should take a stock block anyways.

tower74 04-20-2013 05:53 PM

Why you gotta one up me?:bowrofl::tiphat:

Baer383 04-20-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 2276630)
Stage 5 fuel system: $3400-----Have to feed the girl
New 4.2L with core : $15,400----was going to keep original engine as a back up.
Boost controller, race logic t/c..to control the hp, new clutch to handle the power, new exhaust, gauges etc.
You can't just thrown in a few parts and hop for the best with 800hp. You need to control it and make sure everything else will not explode the first time you get on it.:facepalm:

The fun you will have when you are done PRICELESS:yum:

Baer383 04-20-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 2276647)
Why you gotta one up me?:bowrofl::tiphat:

Because he's short :roflpuke2:

SPOHN 04-20-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 2276647)
Why you gotta one up me?:bowrofl::tiphat:

Gotta be quick. Like boosted quick.

tower74 04-20-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2276651)
Because he's short :roflpuke2:

and that's what she said:roflpuke2:

tower74 04-20-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2276652)
Gotta be quick. Like boosted quick.

working on it....boosted again part.

aBT 04-20-2013 06:45 PM

What size downpipe comes with turn key kit?

SPOHN 04-20-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2276651)
Because he's short :roflpuke2:

Yes i am short and stout. Heres my handle and you can kiss my spout. :bowrofl:

Baer383 04-20-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2276694)
Yes i am short and stout. Heres my handle and you can kiss my :icon23:. :bowrofl:


Fixed!!!!

SS_Firehawk 04-20-2013 06:58 PM

I think kissing his spout would bring "satisfaction"

Baer383 04-20-2013 07:02 PM

I'm sorry I thought this was a Blower thread!!!!!

I'm out:rofl2:

tower74 04-20-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2276694)
Yes i am short and stout. Heres my handle and you can kiss my spout. :bowrofl:

:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2::bowrofl:

NitrousZ34 04-20-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 2276630)
Stage 5 fuel system: $3400-----Have to feed the girl
New 4.2L with core : $15,400----was going to keep original engine as a back up.
Boost controller, race logic t/c..to control the hp, new clutch to handle the power, new exhaust, gauges etc.
You can't just thrown in a few parts and hop for the best with 800hp. You need to control it and make sure everything else will not explode the first time you get on it.
But hey good luck with your thought of you only need an engine build and larger turbo :facepalm:

I'm aware of how to build a motor and what's needed. No need to throw out a face palm dude. You are wanting a stroker motor which is something I don't want. I already have gauges, you want the race logic t/c... Some of the stuff you want isn't needed and is just for shitz and giggles. They are nice to have but not necessarily needed. I'm not saying $10k is what it takes to get a fully built motor done, I'm just throwing out a ball park number. Also I save on labor and parts that I get at whole sale. With all that money spent on your wasted sts kit you could have a semi built motor and a TT setup with 650rwhp+
But hey who am I to judge how to spend how others go about spending their hard earned money :tiphat:

Alstann 04-20-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NitrousZ34 (Post 2276887)
I'm aware of how to build a motor and what's needed. No need to throw out a face palm dude. You are wanting a stroker motor which is something I don't want. I already have gauges, you want the race logic t/c... Some of the stuff you want isn't needed and is just for shitz and giggles. They are nice to have but not necessarily needed. I'm not saying $10k is what it takes to get a fully built motor done, I'm just throwing out a ball park number. Also I save on labor and parts that I get at whole sale. With all that money spent on your wasted sts kit you could have a semi built motor and a TT setup with 650rwhp+
But hey who am I to judge how to spend how others go about spending their hard earned money :tiphat:

Even with a stroker build, I couldn't imagine it being more than $10k for everything, including parts and labor. The motor itself, from Nissan, is quite expensive, however.

Dzel 04-20-2013 10:34 PM

Does nobody plan on working on the engines and install themselves?

SPOHN 04-20-2013 10:36 PM

I am

Dzel 04-20-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2276951)
I am

Sweet I'm a little worried about the headers removal but am hoping I can take this on myself. I recently just stocked up my garage with jack stands, a car jack, and almost every basic tool one may need.

NitrousZ34 04-20-2013 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 2276933)
Even with a stroker build, I couldn't imagine it being more than $10k for everything, including parts and labor. The motor itself, from Nissan, is quite expensive, however.

For my 350z it was going to be $8k I believe. It really isn't expensive to build a motor. Hell even a twin turbo kit can cost more than an engine build.

SPOHN 04-20-2013 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2276960)
Sweet I'm a little worried about the headers removal but am hoping I can take this on myself. I recently just stocked up my garage with jack stands, a car jack, and almost every basic tool one may need.

Shouldn't be that hard. What headers? If LTH I believe it's hard to get to some of the bolts but it takes time and a cool head. Which I do not have. Good thing for myself is I own a lift. Best investment ever about eight years ago.

My plans are after we find out a release date I'm going to start removal of headers, TP's, oil pan, radiator core (gives a lot of room to work), throttle bodies, intake manifold, spark plugs, fuel injectors, and whatever else I know about turbo installation. Maybe directions will be given before receiving the kit. Then once received I'm going to thermal coat the intercoolers and powder coat the other piping. Main thing about FI kits is making sure all parts that have threads are tight and thread sealant was used. Heat wrap anything close to the turbos reguardless of the directions. Then all silicone couplings are secure. Ill never forget the time I had one pop off under boost. Lol. Once the turbo manifolds/ turbos are on its a breeze. I don't have AC no more so there is a lot of room on the driver side.

Dzel 04-20-2013 11:57 PM

Is wrapping needed with the heat shields? I have the stock headers still on, and I have 4 rolls of Teflon ready! I recently got a promotion and will have a company vehicle allowing me to park the Z in the garage. I spoke to Mike and he stated that he's working on the manual and will distribute it as soon as he can. I plan on taking a whole weekend just to remove the headers.

SPOHN 04-21-2013 12:06 AM

Oh sorry I meant wrapping such as electrical components using the foil type wrap. I know theres a big one the drivers side that you will see. It has long plastic square clip of some type around the loom. Then myself having a vented hood is great and no cowl. You'll just see the heat poor out.

Just small things like that or even water lines. The stock headers are not horrible. It's just a matter of getting them broke lose. Six point sockets always. Installing this kit is easy. Not sure how the water lines are routed but I have a great idea.

BeemaaZ 04-21-2013 03:09 AM

Twin Turbo DIY $3000 in saving

Blowing up your motor = Priceless!

Dzel 04-21-2013 07:23 AM

Lol that's exactly why I'm thinking of just waiting till bonus time next year and taking the cat to JTran in Houston for an install and tune.

Footloose301 04-21-2013 07:29 AM

I hope SAM@GTM has an iPhone because I'm going to FaceTime him during the build to make sure I'm doing it right.

I just need to make sure I'm on wifi because 20hrs of FaceTime will kill my data plan.

Baer383 04-21-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 2277193)
I hope SAM@GTM has an iPhone because I'm going to FaceTime him during the build to make sure I'm doing it right.

I just need to make sure I'm on wifi because 20hrs of FaceTime will kill my data plan.

You won't need all that Sam's instructions are really good,if you can turn a wrench and read you will be GTG.:hello:

Dzel 04-21-2013 08:06 AM

Dat makee em fel betr!:icon14:

You didn't say if you could spell. :bowrofl:

SPOHN 04-21-2013 09:21 AM

For myself it's simple as any other install. Just more of it. I'll load it up and take it to be tuned.

blackonorange 04-21-2013 10:48 AM

I'm installing mine myself, it's not rocket surgery


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