Fast Intentions "Twin Turbo Kit" is here

djtodd · 12-30-2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rangerz

how does it affect oil changes. Maybe I'm way off but I thought it was all internally contained within the radiator/ block.

Found this post by Z1 awhile ago

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ml#post1489802

The stock cooler is basically a REALLY crappy oil/water heat exchanger. The part we're talking about eliminating is the small sandwich plate that fits between the block and the oil filter. It's part #1 in this pic.

It's probably about 1" - 1.5" thick.
If you add an external cooler on top of that, there is VERY little clearance when changing the filter. You also can only use the "short" filters, and not some of the taller ones like the bigger Purolator (can remember part#).

I also read that other post. I get that in theory it should help, but having tested an external cooler with and without the stock cooler, it made zero difference in warm up times, etc. That's why many of us use a block-off plate that fits over the external cooler core for the winter. I made mine out of aluminum sheet and industrial velcro. Cost me maybe $10 in material. Others have used something as simple as cardboard.

XwChriswX · 12-30-2013, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djtodd

The stock cooler is basically a REALLY crappy oil/water heat exchanger. The part we're talking about eliminating is the small sandwich plate that fits between the block and the oil filter. It's part #1 in this pic.

It's probably about 1" - 1.5" thick.
If you add an external cooler on top of that, there is VERY little clearance when changing the filter. You also can only use the "short" filters, and not some of the taller ones like the bigger Purolator (can remember part#).

I also read that other post. I get that in theory it should help, but having tested an external cooler with and without the stock cooler, it made zero difference in warm up times, etc. That's why many of us use a block-off plate that fits over the external cooler core for the winter. I made mine out of aluminum sheet and industrial velcro. Cost me maybe $10 in material. Others have used something as simple as cardboard.

The taller Purolator PureONE Filter is #14610

The shorter Purolator PureONE Filter is #14612

ANMVQ · 12-30-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Update...

Been on the dyno from 9am until about an hour ago! Very exhausted and reek like fuel! Going home for dinner and to relax. Took some cool video from today. Check it out on Instagram.

#FastIntentions

Both cars make solid respectable similar numbers on CA 91 Octane.

*Hotrodz: 480 RWH / 430 FT LBS of Torque. (GT28RS w/Full 3" Exhaust)
*Nklear: 470 RWH / 418 FT LBS of Torque. (GT28RS w/Full 3" Exhaust)

Niether are tuned over 8 psi for safety with our lovely fuel!

Nklear's car made great numbers on 100 Octane: 545 RWH / 487 FT LBS of Torque on just over 10 psi!!! The spool is like nothing we have ever seen, even comparing it to the prototype car. It comes in so hard that you can absolutely blast the tires off in 3rd gear with just rolling in to it. Sebastian from SpecialtyZ asked us twice today if we could make the boost controller come in softer, "the car is spooling to fast". Great problem to have!

I will get the dyno charts posted next week of both cars and DirTyShoeZ kit will be shipping out next Friday.

On another note, we spent so much time on Nklear's car that we did not get to put TerribleOne's car back on the dyno. Apparently Nissan likes to trick things up with the 2013 models. Fun little obstacles to get around for the UpRev tune. In the end we figured it out and chalk the day up as a success.

Thanks, Tony

Those are some nice XMAS gifts, Great work Tony FI

phunk · 12-30-2013, 02:47 PM

While installing a turbo kit on the 12+, i would do myself a favor and replace pipe #13 with the 09-11 pipe. They are cheap, I think under $50 from courtesy parts?

This would eliminate the need to block off the forward facing pipe, as it does not have that pipe. Just a little bit cleaner is all. Plus, while it is off, you can cut off and weld shut the throttle coolant barb. To eliminate the other end of the throttle coolant, you can pull out the press-in barb on the aluminum rear coolant outlet housing. A 1/8 NPT tap fits in the hole. Put in a stainless 1/8 plug. This is what I did to eliminate the throttle coolant in my car without doing a messy bypass hose. (bypass hose is also allowing some water to bypass radiator after thermostat is fully open, slightly reducing cooling system efficiency)

Doing it this way would be a clean and easy way to cleanup all the coolant line mess. Tested and proven setup in my car for over 2 years daily driven, even in sub zero weather. For a 09-11 this takes care of it. For the 12+ you still need the fast intentions supplied blockoff plate and whatever fittings to attach oil cooler plate in replacement to stock heat exchanger.

Rangerz · 12-30-2013, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djtodd

The stock cooler is basically a REALLY crappy oil/water heat exchanger. The part we're talking about eliminating is the small sandwich plate that fits between the block and the oil filter. It's part #1 in this pic.

It's probably about 1" - 1.5" thick.
If you add an external cooler on top of that, there is VERY little clearance when changing the filter. You also can only use the "short" filters, and not some of the taller ones like the bigger Purolator (can remember part#).

I also read that other post. I get that in theory it should help, but having tested an external cooler with and without the stock cooler, it made zero difference in warm up times, etc. That's why many of us use a block-off plate that fits over the external cooler core for the winter. I made mine out of aluminum sheet and industrial velcro. Cost me maybe $10 in material. Others have used something as simple as cardboard.

Djtodd & Phunk

thanks for the information. So if I'm reading the diagram right you can go all out as Phunk said or could you just just connect tube #9 inlet and outlet ends to themselves and be fine? Dj what route did you go with?

thanks guys. If you reply maybe just PM, don't really want to highjack a TT FI thread for oil cooling

tower74 · 12-30-2013, 10:47 PM

I can only imagine what you guys can do for a GTR....Hint, hint!

mfeinst · 12-30-2013, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74

I can only imagine what you guys can do for a GTR....Hint, hint!

You already have turbos, now shoo!

phunk · 12-30-2013, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerz

Djtodd & Phunk

thanks for the information. So if I'm reading the diagram right you can go all out as Phunk said or could you just just connect tube #9 inlet and outlet ends to themselves and be fine? Dj what route did you go with?

thanks guys. If you reply maybe just PM, don't really want to highjack a TT FI thread for oil cooling

Well, you would technically loop the front of pipe 12 to the front of pipe 13 to bypass the heat exchanger. But I wouldnt recommend that because its a large coolant "leak". You really want to eliminate the flow all together.

It looks like Fast Intentions is supplying a blockoff plate to eliminate pipe 12, and a plug for probably the front of pipe 13. I am not sure if thats with their turbo kit or oil cooler kit or what not, i havent been reading enough.

tower74 · 12-30-2013, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mfeinst

You already have turbos, now shoo!

But it's not Tony's work...

mfeinst · 12-31-2013, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tower74

But it's not Tony's work...

Imagine popping open the hood on a 2015 and seeing "Engine hand-built by Tony. Yeah, THAT Tony."

gbrettin · 01-01-2014, 01:14 PM

I want to see the F.I. kit on a fully built motor to handle high boost! ... Anyone planning on doing that in the near future?

TerribleONE · 01-01-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

I want to see the F.I. kit on a fully built motor to handle high boost! ... Anyone planning on doing that in the near future?

There is something in the works for this right now as far as I know. My car will also eventually have a built motor! I think that's where this kit will really shine

djtodd · 01-01-2014, 04:57 PM

I do in the somewhat near future. Probably end of 2014 or so. I'll run on the stock block for a bit while the spare block is built.

F.I. Inc. · 01-01-2014, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

I want to see the F.I. kit on a fully built motor to handle high boost! ... Anyone planning on doing that in the near future?

A handful of our current orders are going to be on E85. As far as I know for sure we have one right now on a fully built engine, return fuel system and our larger turbo's. That is going to pur like nobody's business!

faceglide · 01-01-2014, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by djtodd

I do in the somewhat near future. Probably end of 2014 or so. I'll run on the stock block for a bit while the spare block is built.

Likewise. I would l love to run the stock block for a bit first.

Suspension and maybe some fun aero will be my focus for 2014. Car only had 9k on it.

E85 is planned for my install though. Soon as the fuel buys come in. I have charles@cjm slaving away for me. Haha.

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12-30-2013, 02:47 PM	#1714 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,655 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	While installing a turbo kit on the 12+, i would do myself a favor and replace pipe #13 with the 09-11 pipe. They are cheap, I think under $50 from courtesy parts? This would eliminate the need to block off the forward facing pipe, as it does not have that pipe. Just a little bit cleaner is all. Plus, while it is off, you can cut off and weld shut the throttle coolant barb. To eliminate the other end of the throttle coolant, you can pull out the press-in barb on the aluminum rear coolant outlet housing. A 1/8 NPT tap fits in the hole. Put in a stainless 1/8 plug. This is what I did to eliminate the throttle coolant in my car without doing a messy bypass hose. (bypass hose is also allowing some water to bypass radiator after thermostat is fully open, slightly reducing cooling system efficiency) Doing it this way would be a clean and easy way to cleanup all the coolant line mess. Tested and proven setup in my car for over 2 years daily driven, even in sub zero weather. For a 09-11 this takes care of it. For the 12+ you still need the fast intentions supplied blockoff plate and whatever fittings to attach oil cooler plate in replacement to stock heat exchanger. Rangerz likes this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph Last edited by phunk; 12-30-2013 at 02:49 PM.

12-30-2013, 10:47 PM	#1716 (permalink)
tower74 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 1,597 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Camaro Rep Power: 369	I can only imagine what you guys can do for a GTR....Hint, hint! F.I. Inc. likes this.

01-01-2014, 04:57 PM	#1723 (permalink)
djtodd Track Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 932 Drives: 2012 Nismo TT Rep Power: 3397	***Fast Intentions "Twin Turbo Kit" is here*** I do in the somewhat near future. Probably end of 2014 or so. I'll run on the stock block for a bit while the spare block is built. F.I. Inc., KaienZ34, hjo1078 and 1 others like this. __________________ DJTodd's Build Thread Fast Intentions • Volk • Stoptech • Carbotech • SPL • Southbend • OS Giken • RJM • Sparco • RobiSpec • AIM • Driver Mod

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