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Originally Posted by phunk Justin and I have been working on a little suspension project. Its simmering on the back-burner, but it does get a little attention here and there.

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Old 02-02-2014, 05:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Justin and I have been working on a little suspension project. Its simmering on the back-burner, but it does get a little attention here and there. By late spring or summer I hope to have a little "fix" for the suspension geometry to help the car hook up better. My 18x12 drag radial setup hardly help my car hookup much better because no width of tire is going to help when the suspension cambers several degrees when it squats!
Use the AT gear ratio!


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LOL you see this is the same idea for me as traction control... I want to make my car have genuinely better grip so that it can accelerate faster, rather than limiting its ability to accelerate to stay within the grip it has! However, the taller final drive would suit my power level for other purposes... and if it didnt mess with the SRM, i would have already done it!
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Holy. ****. Those numbers are insane. Way past my comfort level on the stock block, but amazing nonetheless. Well done guys.
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Holy. ****. Those numbers are insane. Way past my comfort level on the stock block, but amazing nonetheless. Well done guys.
It will hardly ever be run at that level. The car will spend most days around 10 psi.

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so am i reading this right that at 11.5psi on e85 you guys made 4hp more than the gtm stage2 at 11psi on 91?

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so am i reading this right that at 11.5psi on e85 you guys made 4hp more than the gtm stage2 at 11psi on 91?

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Add 40 ft lb of torque.

Whats funny is if you look at the curve:

at 4400 RPM= ++75hp/+65ft lb
at 6000 RPM= ++60hp/50ft lb

No comparison. Oh yeah, I am running a 2.5" exhaust to their 3" exhuast.
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so am i reading this right that at 11.5psi on e85 you guys made 4hp more than the gtm stage2 at 11psi on 91?

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First and foremost, we did this with a 2.5" exhaust system, not 3".

Aside of that, I will not go in to detail and start comparing what they do vs. what we do. I really want to let loose but WILL NOT take the bait!

I will leave your post regarding anything about them to be answered by the other forum members.

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so am i reading this right that at 11.5psi on e85 you guys made 4hp more than the gtm stage2 at 11psi on 91?

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So I wanted to clarify one thing that pertains to your question in the quote above.

In the dyno comparison chart below from yesterday the timing was fairly conservative for E85 until the 13 psi pulls. What Sebastian did first was get the A/F dialed in on those previous boost levels with about 15-16 degrees of timing in the car. If you look at the dyno chart closely you will see that the curve backs this up. At 3,500 rpm these two runs ramp up much steeper and harder (power/torque/boost) than the previous 3 pulls which are more linear to each other.

Not until after the 11+ psi pulls did he start to get more aggressive with the timing. We then did not go back and dyno the car at the lower psi levels with the higher timing values. All of this combined with the fact that we are running our 2.5" exhaust system opposed to our 3" exhaust. We are fairly certain that around 550 RWH our 3" exhaust system would be about 2 psi lower than what it is showing. The 3" exhaust will eliminate virtually all back pressure on the back side of the turbo's.

Now the 6.9 psi pull was with conservative timing and with the boost controller turned off. Basically wastegate spring pressure.



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sorry quoted wrong post meant terrible

so you guys had to change the axles right ^ this guys says they cant hold up to power.
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so you guys had to change the axles right ^ this guys says they cant hold up to power.
My car is on stock axles, not sure what your talking about. Stock axles will probably be absolutely fine on the street. But if you slick it down and hit the track with some really good prep, something has to give.
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Congratulation!!! You guys continue to out do yourselves!
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yeah but i expected the torque increase with e85 you can run timing there you cant on 91, and on that note your peak power should be a lot higher on e85, was there an issue with it pulling timing up top or something?
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