Fast Intentions "Twin Turbo Kit" is here

F.I. Inc. · 02-14-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

This whole filter talk about being restricted where they sit is a bit rediculous. I mean its not like you force air into the intakes. They create a vacuume. They dont really need that much space. Just as long as they are not sucking in hot air really is the only concern and where they are positioned they will not do that.

Look at the BP kit. He has just one filter on there in a crammed location. These two filters will be just fine.

Great input! If this was a NA application it would be much more crucial. What is more important is how straight of a shot it is from the filter to the turbo. Large bends combined with large distances can greatly restrict. In the case of our kit it is as close to a straight shot is it is going to get.

Thanks, Tony

XwChriswX · 02-14-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE

We pulled the filters off completely on the dyno to see if we picked up or lost any power, however there was no difference. I am sure we can do some runs with the bumper on if there is a speculation that this is inflating results. Also the car did go 11.8 @ 124 (with the bumper on). That trap speed is a very good indication that the car is still making the stated power levels.

I wasn't saying anything about the Filters being on or off, but about the front Bumper being off. On a strip is one thing because the car is moving, not on a dyno where its sitting in one spot. Yes, I see blower fans, but those are focused for radiator/intercooler cooling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ

This whole filter talk about being restricted where they sit is a bit rediculous. I mean its not like you force air into the intakes. They create a vacuume. They dont really need that much space. Just as long as they are not sucking in hot air really is the only concern and where they are positioned they will not do that.

Look at the BP kit. He has just one filter on there in a crammed location. These two filters will be just fine.

Right they do, not questioning that. But what happens when the vacuum is greater than the volume of air that's able to fill the space since there's not a direct opening? That's the only thought.

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Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Great input! If this was a NA application it would be much more crucial. What is more important is how straight of a shot it is from the filter to the turbo. Large bends combined with large distances can greatly restrict. In the case of our kit it is as close to a straight shot is it is going to get.

Thanks, Tony

Of course, not commenting about the flow of the pipes Tony, just curious about the placement of filters in terms of available airflow.

TerribleONE · 02-14-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

I wasn't saying anything about the Filters being on or off, but about the front Bumper being off. On a strip is one thing because the car is moving, not on a dyno where its sitting in one spot. Yes, I see blower fans, but those are focused for radiator/intercooler cooling.

Right they do, not questioning that. But what happens when the vacuum is greater than the volume of air that's able to fill the space since there's not a direct opening? That's the only thought.

Of course, not commenting about the flow of the pipes Tony, just curious about the placement of filters in terms of available airflow.

With the front mount intercooler I don't think you have many other options as far as placement. However I do see where you are going with it. We will be back on the dyne soon enough.

XwChriswX · 02-14-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE

With the front mount intercooler I don't think you have many other options as far as placement. However I do see where you are going with it. We will be back on the dyne soon enough.

Agreed, that does limit your placement as long as you wanna keep it out of the engine bay...

Just something that crossed my mind, not trying to slander your build or Tony's epic product.

TerribleONE · 02-14-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Agreed, that does limit your placement as long as you wanna keep it out of the engine bay...

Just something that crossed my mind, not trying to slander your build or Tony's epic product.

Didn't take it that way at all

You have one nice 370 yourself.

XwChriswX · 02-14-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE

Didn't take it that way at all

You have one nice 370 yourself.

She's a work in progress.

Nowhere near your power potential though...

One day. It's down to FI or BP if he ever makes a 7AT kit for my boost.

TopgunZ · 02-14-2013, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Right they do, not questioning that. But what happens when the vacuum is greater than the volume of air that's able to fill the space since there's not a direct opening? That's the only thought.

Of course, not commenting about the flow of the pipes Tony, just curious about the placement of filters in terms of available airflow.

No. This point is invalid. Look at my ridgeline or any other oem panel filter airbox with a decent amount of power. The box is completely sealed off except for a 1" by 8" slot intake duct. The twin cone filter area has multiple times this amount of available free air space. This should be looked at as a zero cost of concern.

conor1123 · 02-15-2013, 12:18 AM

Missed a few pages, not sure if anyone asked this but is this with a hi-flow cat? Says "full" 2.5 so i wasn't sure if there was a downpipe or both?

TerribleONE · 02-15-2013, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by conor1123

Missed a few pages, not sure if anyone asked this but is this with a hi-flow cat? Says "full" 2.5 so i wasn't sure if there was a downpipe or both?

We have not tried this setup with a HFC. We ran the car on stock cats, as well as a full 2.5" setup (downpipes, exhaust)

XwChriswX · 02-15-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

No. This point is invalid. Look at my ridgeline or any other oem panel filter airbox with a decent amount of power. The box is completely sealed off except for a 1" by 8" slot intake duct. The twin cone filter area has multiple times this amount of available free air space. This should be looked at as a zero cost of concern.

I think you're getting too caught up with shooting the idea down to really understand what I'm saying...

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