S&R Performance single build about to begin!

Red__Zed · 05-30-2012, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by valpozguy

I have been working with f.i. For many many years and yes it was the first thing i had a issue with and they tested this at long idles and many hot conditions ( Tampa Florida ) dyno and street conditions and have had no issues as far as I know. If someone can prove this wrong please chime in.

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As long as you're satisfied with the shop's proof, no one else will care enough to "prove" anything. Just make sure you are convinced.

Spikuh · 05-30-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by valpozguy

I have been working with f.i. For many many years and yes it was the first thing i had a issue with and they tested this at long idles and many hot conditions ( Tampa Florida ) dyno and street conditions and have had no issues as far as I know. If someone can prove this wrong please chime in.

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Not to rain on your parade or be negative or anything of the sort, but the original builder who did 98intrigue's single setup had "extensive experience" as well. If you haven't, it is definitely worth reading through to see where they had problems and the solutions they came up with.

phelan · 05-30-2012, 10:47 AM

I'd read this...First top mount single turbo 370Z

Just sayin'

But it's your car, and if you're confident they are competent, then by all means go for it.

valpozguy · 05-30-2012, 11:05 AM

If you're goIng to say somethIng about someone's car blowIng up be more clear about I really lIke to know what you mean?

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Spikuh · 05-30-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by valpozguy

If you're goIng to say somethIng about someone's car blowIng up be more clear about I really lIke to know what you mean?

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Huh? Are all the capitalized I's supposed to be indicative of something?

Red__Zed · 05-30-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by valpozguy

If you're goIng to say somethIng about someone's car blowIng up be more clear about I really lIke to know what you mean?

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Completely different reasons for failure, but a good read nonetheless

First top mount single turbo 370Z

You may also note my advice/fear-mongering/hate/flaming early in that thread.

It's important to ensure the shop is vetted properly. S&r has one car with the design running around, and even a horribly designed system will take it's time to fail.

valpozguy · 05-30-2012, 12:06 PM

Man sure is alot of talk but no proof of nothing. If you don't have proof than stop being a troll.

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Spikuh · 05-30-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by valpozguy

Man sure is alot of talk but no proof of nothing. If you don't have proof than stop being a troll.

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Trying to be helpful and suggesting to you some reading that might prove helpful or give you some additional insight into what all could be involved in a single turbo build is not the same thing as trolling.

LafitteZ · 05-30-2012, 12:11 PM

Yea I cant see how that intake runner sitting right next to that turbo will have no effect on the intake temps on that side. Im no expert tho.

Marti@S&R · 05-30-2012, 12:29 PM

If you guys would like to lay out any specific questions, i'd be happy to address them. We've got several HR builds under out belts now. We've got the first hand experience to answer the questions so there is no need to speculate or assume of what might to what.

there is a method to our madness and we only do what works and what we see perform.

Red__Zed · 05-30-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marti@S&R

If you guys would like to lay out any specific questions, i'd be happy to address them. We've got several HR builds under out belts now. We've got the first hand experience to answer the questions so there is no need to speculate or assume of what might to what.

there is a method to our madness and we only do what works and what we see perform.

Your hr builds don't use this method of routing because they don't run dual tb's.

Can you post your iat results?

theDreamer · 05-30-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marti@S&R

If you guys would like to lay out any specific questions, i'd be happy to address them. We've got several HR builds under out belts now. We've got the first hand experience to answer the questions so there is no need to speculate or assume of what might to what.

there is a method to our madness and we only do what works and what we see perform.

To keep this in line the questions are:
-How are you dealing with the heat from the turbo not getting into the intake piping?
-How are you measuring IAT?
-What testing has been done, besides idle & dyno tuning? Not going to say, oh no 2 year product see the door, but how long have cars been running with this design and any issues?

valpozguy · 05-30-2012, 12:37 PM

^^^^^ Thanks for dropping in on this ^^^^^ I would not do this if i did not have the up most confidence in these guys. So far they have been great about everything. Marti is very aware of how picky i am and that i am pretty knowledgeable when it comes to turbos. Every time that I have called him he is not had ay problem answering my questions. And he will gladly answer any that I have a long way.

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blackonorange · 05-30-2012, 01:18 PM

Well this is interesting ....

valpozguy · 05-30-2012, 01:23 PM

Marti told me the intake runners are the same length. Im sure he will drop in here again and verify what i have already asked him.

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05-30-2012, 10:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 39 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3407	I'd read this...First top mount single turbo 370Z Just sayin' But it's your car, and if you're confident they are competent, then by all means go for it. __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

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valpozguy Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: valparaiso Posts: 501 Drives: 09 z Rep Power: 17	If you're goIng to say somethIng about someone's car blowIng up be more clear about I really lIke to know what you mean? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2

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valpozguy Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: valparaiso Posts: 501 Drives: 09 z Rep Power: 17	Man sure is alot of talk but no proof of nothing. If you don't have proof than stop being a troll. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2

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LafitteZ Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: lafitte, la Posts: 698 Drives: 40th anniversary Rep Power: 16	Yea I cant see how that intake runner sitting right next to that turbo will have no effect on the intake temps on that side. Im no expert tho.

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Marti@S&R Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Central Florida Posts: 8 Drives: United States Rep Power: 15	If you guys would like to lay out any specific questions, i'd be happy to address them. We've got several HR builds under out belts now. We've got the first hand experience to answer the questions so there is no need to speculate or assume of what might to what. there is a method to our madness and we only do what works and what we see perform.

05-30-2012, 12:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
valpozguy Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: valparaiso Posts: 501 Drives: 09 z Rep Power: 17	^^^^^ Thanks for dropping in on this ^^^^^ I would not do this if i did not have the up most confidence in these guys. So far they have been great about everything. Marti is very aware of how picky i am and that i am pretty knowledgeable when it comes to turbos. Every time that I have called him he is not had ay problem answering my questions. And he will gladly answer any that I have a long way. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2

05-30-2012, 01:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
blackonorange A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,078 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 16	Well this is interesting ....

05-30-2012, 01:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
valpozguy Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: valparaiso Posts: 501 Drives: 09 z Rep Power: 17	Marti told me the intake runners are the same length. Im sure he will drop in here again and verify what i have already asked him. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2