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DBloc 03-20-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2223519)
The customer service, the quality of the components, and the completeness of the kit is enough reason to buy.

I agree with you on that Galeforce especially on the completeness part sasha includes everything you need with his kit. This kit is still #1 on my list of Turbo options.

DBloc 03-20-2013 11:58 AM

Hey sasha what's up, i'm currently on youtube right now looking at some videos of BP 350z. Most of the video i've seen were dyno vids and in cars videos. i cant wait for mitco39 to post some flyby videos this spring when the weather finally breaks for good. Thanks for the reply's guys.

Mitco39 03-20-2013 12:20 PM

I cant wait to make them! It sucks that we got a huge dump of snow here over the past week. I was hoping to start taking out for short burns until this happened.

GaleForce 03-20-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2223589)
I cant wait to make them! It sucks that we got a huge dump of snow here over the past week. I was hoping to start taking out for short burns until this happened.

:iagree: I have one short video of my first drive. Down the street and back (no exhaust) at a crawl, nothing exciting. I will have some proper videos, and some dyno numbers soon...

Boosted Performance 03-22-2013 01:39 AM

10 FMIC brackets built today...:)

All the materials are arriving now, so there will be a lot of progress in the next month or so.

The list I have at this time is 15 deep, and I will do my best to take care of everybody.

Cbtech 03-22-2013 02:01 AM

Nooice! Hope I'm in the single digits on that list! :D

NitrousZ34 03-22-2013 04:07 AM

Yeahhhhh buddy!

ENT-Z 03-24-2013 11:52 AM

Track usage
 
Just wanted to say that yesterday was my first track day with the turbo kit installed and everything worked flawlessly. I did put heat wrap on the piping underneath the transmission just for good measure. The car is a beast and by the end of the day I was getting used to it and nobody in my run group was able to pass me. It took a while to learn to modulate the throttle appropriately out of the turns since the boost comes on so quick. Once I got that figured out it is very driveable and quick quick quick!

rhd 03-24-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 2230434)
Just wanted to say that yesterday was my first track day with the turbo kit installed and everything worked flawlessly. I did put heat wrap on the piping underneath the transmission just for good measure. The car is a beast and by the end of the day I was getting used to it and nobody in my run group was able to pass me. It took a while to learn to modulate the throttle appropriately out of the turns since the boost comes on so quick. Once I got that figured out it is very driveable and quick quick quick!

Hey ENT-Z, Thanks for the info. What was the hottest car in your group besides your Z? (that didn't pass you) ...hehe

What is your suspension setup? Are you lowered? How about wheel and tire info? :tiphat: Thanks

asdfsammich 03-24-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 2230434)
Just wanted to say that yesterday was my first track day with the turbo kit installed and everything worked flawlessly. I did put heat wrap on the piping underneath the transmission just for good measure. The car is a beast and by the end of the day I was getting used to it and nobody in my run group was able to pass me. It took a while to learn to modulate the throttle appropriately out of the turns since the boost comes on so quick. Once I got that figured out it is very driveable and quick quick quick!

Sweet. This is great news.


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wheee! 03-24-2013 04:06 PM

I expect this to be a very common theme among BP kit owners.....

Cbtech 03-24-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 2230434)
Just wanted to say that yesterday was my first track day with the turbo kit installed and everything worked flawlessly. I did put heat wrap on the piping underneath the transmission just for good measure. The car is a beast and by the end of the day I was getting used to it and nobody in my run group was able to pass me. It took a while to learn to modulate the throttle appropriately out of the turns since the boost comes on so quick. Once I got that figured out it is very driveable and quick quick quick!

did you happen to get any video?

GaleForce 03-24-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 2230434)
Just wanted to say that yesterday was my first track day with the turbo kit installed and everything worked flawlessly. I did put heat wrap on the piping underneath the transmission just for good measure. The car is a beast and by the end of the day I was getting used to it and nobody in my run group was able to pass me. It took a while to learn to modulate the throttle appropriately out of the turns since the boost comes on so quick. Once I got that figured out it is very driveable and quick quick quick!

So, are you saying my "throttle mash technique" isn't recommended when exiting corners now? :icon17:

Boosted Performance 03-24-2013 06:34 PM

Rob, thanks for the feedback. I am glad that you are happy with the performance, and that the kit is performing flawlessly....as it should.

I know there were a few posts/comments made (along with cheap shots) by one competitor with an alternative kit, saying that a single turbo will never spool as fast, or be as responsive as twins. Now that the boost curves have been posted, it is clear that this twin scroll kit outspools it by about 400rpm going from a stop. This will also translate to better response on the track as well. The twin scroll trully does work, and work very well on these cars.

Sometimes you just can't believe what you read, and have to do some research in order to make the right call. An educated customer will always make a better decision when it comes to spending his/her hard earned money on ANY aftermarket mod.

NitrousZ34 03-24-2013 07:06 PM

Great news. I'm looking forward to getting this kit when the next batch is available.

Boosted Performance 03-24-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NitrousZ34 (Post 2230893)
Great news. I'm looking forward to getting this kit when the next batch is available.

Yup...you are on the list :).

blackonorange 03-24-2013 07:22 PM

i assume your talking about this competitor, now i could be reading the graph wrong but it appears that gtm makes more boost at lower rpm. unless im confused on the term of "outspooling" ?? not meaning to start anything here i love your kit and would rock one if i wasnt so slammed!!!! much love

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps0dd11a44.jpg

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps874d0919.jpg

Boosted Performance 03-24-2013 07:26 PM

This is the graph you want to look at since it is using a boost controler:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...scan0001-1.jpg

That was also a $60 manual boost controller, and not a more common electronic controller, with a lot more capability/features.

JMac88 03-24-2013 07:28 PM

First time I have seen that graph, that boost line sure is straight....

Anyways when you compare the 3900 to the 4000 the two kits are virtually the same. As I had meantioned previously, I was not using any gain with an ebc either

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blackonorange 03-24-2013 07:34 PM

ahh yes.. why does the boost drop off at the end i thought the boost controller would fix that?

blackonorange 03-24-2013 07:36 PM

honestly im just bitter sasha didnt accept my friend request on facebook....... seriously

Boosted Performance 03-24-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 2230932)
ahh yes.. why does the boost drop off at the end i thought the boost controller would fix that?

James answered it above. Sorry James I thought this was with the MBC...I know that it was something with either the BC or settings. Gain would explain it.

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 2230933)
honestly im just bitter sasha didnt accept my friend request on facebook....... seriously

Sorry, I don't really use facebook all that much...I can't remember the last time I made a post on there...maybe a couple of years? My wife actually set it up for me a long time ago...because I don't care for it.

Sorry for the hurt feelings.

JMac88 03-24-2013 08:07 PM

Np Sasha, even I forget which graphs are which lol. For those who do not know, when we dynoed the car we did it first with no boost controller, then with a manual, then with and ebc (AEM) that was crap btw. It did nothing to stablize boost.

I have since switched to an hks evc6. I will get it dynoed again in the summer, and the drop in boost and the spool should both be adjusted. Maybe someone else with Sasha's kit will beat me to it.

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blackonorange 03-24-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 2230978)
James answered it above. Sorry James I thought this was with the MBC...I know that it was something with either the BC or settings. Gain would explain it.



Sorry, I don't really use facebook all that much...I can't remember the last time I made a post on there...maybe a couple of years? My wife actually set it up for me a long time ago...because I don't care for it.

Sorry for the hurt feelings.

well i hate to admit it but i randomly came accross a post you made on one of the corvettes sts did......... you happened to mention pretty much how awesome your kit is and made only 50 whp less on a 3.7 than they did on a vette.... that really put it into perspective lolololol

Dzel 03-24-2013 08:50 PM

Sasha can you include the manual BC with purchase of your kit. What are the benefits of running an electric one instead of a manual

Boosted Performance 03-24-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 2231003)
well i hate to admit it but i randomly came accross a post you made on one of the corvettes sts did......... you happened to mention pretty much how awesome your kit is and made only 50 whp less on a 3.7 than they did on a vette.... that really put it into perspective lolololol

My kit or business name was never mentioned, not even a hint of it....so I am not sure what you are trying to start. All I said is that the power output was a bit dissapointing for the displacement...and compared two dyno numbers. Again...sorry if your feelings are hurt... If you were so happy with the STS kit, why do you keep posting in every vendors thread that you will be buying their kit. GTM, BP, F.I kit...and now GTM again.

If you wish to bicker about this, please feel free to PM me and let's keep this on topic please.


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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2231064)
Sasha can you include the manual BC with purchase of your kit. What are the benefits of running an electric one instead of a manual

I can if you wish. Thre is much better control with an EBC, especially when you get to the upper RPM's. It is much more versatile, and provides better boost control.

NitrousZ34 03-24-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 2230997)
Np Sasha, even I forget which graphs are which lol. For those who do not know, when we dynoed the car we did it first with no boost controller, then with a manual, then with and ebc (AEM) that was crap btw. It did nothing to stablize boost.

I have since switched to an hks evc6. I will get it dynoed again in the summer, and the drop in boost and the spool should both be adjusted. Maybe someone else with Sasha's kit will beat me to it.

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I just bought an AEM EBC for this kit. Sebastian at Specialty Z is going to tune my car and he said that the AEM EBC will be fine. I got the BC for next to nothing so may I ask why you think it's crap?

NitrousZ34 03-24-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 2230997)
Np Sasha, even I forget which graphs are which lol. For those who do not know, when we dynoed the car we did it first with no boost controller, then with a manual, then with and ebc (AEM) that was crap btw. It did nothing to stablize boost.

I have since switched to an hks evc6. I will get it dynoed again in the summer, and the drop in boost and the spool should both be adjusted. Maybe someone else with Sasha's kit will beat me to it.

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I'm not trying to troll by asking it that way either, I just want to know what your thoughts are on it and why your thinking it. The BC has to be decent enough if Sebz thinks it's alright for this type of application.

Dzel 03-24-2013 10:22 PM

The HKS ebc is almost $800! Wow and it looks very complicated to install.

Dzel 03-24-2013 10:24 PM

The graph shows 12# of boost is that a good idea on a stock block or does that engine have internals?

Boosted Performance 03-24-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NitrousZ34 (Post 2231194)
I'm not trying to troll by asking it that way either, I just want to know what your thoughts are on it and why your thinking it. The BC has to be decent enough if Sebz thinks it's alright for this type of application.

I know another one of my customers with a 350z had some issues with the AEM EBC. He opted for the smaller turbine to aid with spool, and the EBC just did not work all that well all the time.

Then next round of kits will come with the slightly larger turbine (1.15 a/r vs 1.0 a/r), so that will help a bit with boost. These engines rev so high, and the extra exhaust flow in the last 1000rpm can really push the exhaust back pressure up there.

For every 10psi of boost, the exhaust pressure before the turbine should not exceed 20psi (2:1 ratio). In other words, if the turbine is on the small side, the wastegate can see up to 20psi of pressure on the valve just from the exhaust. The 1.0 a/r turbine housing can clearly get to 550whp (and that is a lot for a stock block), the 1.15 a/r housing can do it just a bit more efficiently.

JMac88 03-24-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NitrousZ34 (Post 2231192)
I just bought an AEM EBC for this kit. Sebastian at Specialty Z is going to tune my car and he said that the AEM EBC will be fine. I got the BC for next to nothing so may I ask why you think it's crap?

The AEM uses an older style solenoid (single) that connot keep up with boost changes as well as the newer ones on the market. This is why it did nothing for the drop off in boost. A lot of the better ones will use a dual solenoid. The AEM has no adjustment for rpm. Hks is not the only one with rpm adjustability, just the one I chose.

Sebz might have said it was ok because it was on my car when he tuned it. With that being said it did nothing to help with the drop in boost, so not sure why he recommended it. Perhaps because you already bought it.

Edit* The AEM is fine if your just trying to control boost level. Ie if your trying to go from 8 psi to 10.

Here is the AEM solenoid

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&s...d38kqf6xVSM%3A

Here is the hks one
https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&s...y33v2ucAszM%3A

Hope that helps. If you have any other questions, feel free to pm me.

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blackonorange 03-24-2013 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 2231189)
My kit or business name was never mentioned, not even a hint of it....so I am not sure what you are trying to start. All I said is that the power output was a bit dissapointing for the displacement...and compared two dyno numbers. Again...sorry if your feelings are hurt... If you were so happy with the STS kit, why do you keep posting in every vendors thread that you will be buying their kit. GTM, BP, F.I kit...and now GTM again.

If you wish to bicker about this, please feel free to PM me and let's keep this on topic please.

Woah woah woah you completely misunderstood me!! I was just explaining how I even found you on Facebook! Lolol I am saying that it's crazy how much more efficient your kit is than the STS haha sorry if offended you! And like I said earlier I would be rocking your kit if I wasn't so slammed. The only companies I'm even interested in buyin from is you and GTM and I'm going GTM only cause of the above reason! I never told any other companies I was buying their kit that I can remember haha. Again sorry for offending you !!

Boosted Performance 03-24-2013 11:31 PM

Well, sorry I did read it the wrong way then...It has been a long weekend and I am a bit edgy.

blackonorange 03-24-2013 11:38 PM

Haha no worries man. It just really put your kit into perspective for me ( even though I've seen it in person). No stress

NitrousZ34 03-24-2013 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 2231275)
The AEM uses an older style solenoid (single) that connot keep up with boost changes as well as the newer ones on the market. This is why it did nothing for the drop off in boost. A lot of the better ones will use a dual solenoid. The AEM has no adjustment for rpm. Hks is not the only one with rpm adjustability, just the one I chose.

Sebz might have said it was ok because it was on my car when he tuned it. With that being said it did nothing to help with the drop in boost, so not sure why he recommended it. Perhaps because you already bought it.

Edit* The AEM is fine if your just trying to control boost level. Ie if your trying to go from 8 psi to 10.

Here is the AEM solenoid

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&s...d38kqf6xVSM%3A

Here is the hks one
https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&s...y33v2ucAszM%3A

Hope that helps. If you have any other questions, feel free to pm me.

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Gotcha! Ok what do you mean by adjustment for rpm? Like you can change psi according to whatever rpm your at or at whatever rpm you desire?

JMac88 03-25-2013 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NitrousZ34 (Post 2231358)
Gotcha! Ok what do you mean by adjustment for rpm? Like you can change psi according to whatever rpm your at or at whatever rpm you desire?

Lets say I have to run 10% on the ebc to hit 10psi. My boost starts going down around 6500 rpm, so at 6500 I can increase to 15%, and at 6700 to 20% ect... to make my boost hold as close tp 10 psi as possible through the rpm band.


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NitrousZ34 03-25-2013 04:33 AM

Ok so thats why your saying the AEM BC wont hold boost, or didnt hold boost, because you physically can't adjust it for the rpms to compensate for the loss of boost. Makes sense. Thanks for explaining that to me. Repped sir.

Dzel 03-25-2013 04:39 AM

Questions answered! Love it I had no idea that the HKS EBC had all those capabilities

NitrousZ34 03-25-2013 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2231532)
Questions answered! Love it I had no idea that a EBC had all those capabilities

Yeah we are in the same boat! I would be pretty shiiit out of luck if it wasn't for the guys on this forum. I have learned so much over this past year


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