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blackonorange 02-14-2013 09:06 PM

Oh im sorry , That's stainless, I'm talkin aluminum. And yes stainless I want point. Please correct me again.

blackonorange 02-14-2013 09:10 PM

And for stainless you use dc not ac..... Whole different game but I'm sure you know that

Boosted Performance 02-14-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 2165867)
Oh im sorry , That's stainless, I'm talkin aluminum. And yes stainless I want point. Please correct me again.

I prefer arc control on either metal, and therefore prefer a sharper electrode. With aluminum, if you are rounding the point on purpose, it is because your AC balance is high, and the sharp electrode will get melted anyway...so why sharpen it to begin with.

Aluminum with a sharp 3/32" electrode:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...k/IMG_6196.jpg



Seems to work rather well, doesn't it?

blackonorange 02-14-2013 09:53 PM

Nonono Sasha with 2% your right, I went to the shop and yea 2% is ceriated and you want that sharp. We are arguing the same point here lol, if you were welding with pure tungsten you want it balled. With pure tungsten it cleans better and used for thicker material. Your welds look good.

Boosted Performance 02-14-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 2165972)
Nonono Sasha with 2% your right, I went to the shop and yea 2% is ceriated and you want that sharp. We are arguing the same point here lol, if you were welding with pure tungsten you want it balled. With pure tungsten it cleans better and used for thicker material. Your welds look good.

No worries....for an electronics engineer/nerd..I know a thing or two about welding as well...:icon17:

irondoc 02-20-2013 11:49 AM

I may have missed this info in reviewing this very long thread but do you have any notion of how this kit effects the less than optimal 53/47 weight distribution of our car?

Boosted Performance 02-20-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by irondoc (Post 2175655)
I may have missed this info in reviewing this very long thread but do you have any notion of how this kit effects the less than optimal 53/47 weight distribution of our car?

As with any forced induction kit, those two numbers will grow apart. With this kit the turbo does sit on the lower half of the chassis. So, further back than the TT kits and even more so than the top mount ST kits as and superchargers. The centre of gravity does not go upwards.

NeverBoneStck 02-21-2013 09:29 PM

Sasha , what's your # again ?? Need to talk ..

Boosted Performance 02-22-2013 01:21 AM

PM'd it.

blackonorange 03-02-2013 06:44 PM

Well well well look whose turbo kit is on a 350 that was nominated for competing against the project 370z :o

O&G 03-02-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 2193351)
Well well well look whose turbo kit is on a 350 that was nominated for competing against the project 370z :o

Nice, good shyt Canada!

Dallaz 03-03-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 2193351)
Well well well look whose turbo kit is on a 350 that was nominated for competing against the project 370z :o

I was pretty excited when I noticed that as well.

Boosted Performance 03-03-2013 04:21 PM

Hmmm I had no idea to be honest. Link?


Edit:

Found it. Good to know. Don was the very first customer to purchase a Boosted Performance turbo kit. It is the kit that got the ball rolling so to speak. I know that he really beats on his car and participates in many track comperitons. The kit has been going strong for almost four years now with all that abuse.

m3chhawk 03-03-2013 06:20 PM

Link for the rest of us??

Boosted Performance 03-03-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk (Post 2194701)
Link for the rest of us??

I just googled "project 370z" and a facebook page came up with the three finalists. There is a picture of this kit in the very first post of this thread.

blackonorange 03-03-2013 06:32 PM

Very cool man very cool , doesn't look like he's gonna win tho , that 240 seems to be getting all the votes :(

Boosted Performance 03-03-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 2194721)
Very cool man very cool , doesn't look like he's gonna win tho , that 240 seems to be getting all the votes :(

Guess you guys better start voting then...:tup:

ENT-Z 03-08-2013 09:22 PM

Going to pick mine up this weekend!!! :happydance:

http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4b1d2a45.jpg

459 whp and 431 wtq at 9 psi. I was hoping for higher HP but am amazed at that torque number. I think there is room for more tuning but this is a great starting point!!

blackonorange 03-08-2013 10:13 PM

Why doesn't the hp keep climbing?

Boosted Performance 03-09-2013 12:37 AM

Congrats Rob....and there is a lot left on the table. Even as is, I am sure you will enjoy the new power.

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 2204141)
Why doesn't the hp keep climbing?

There seems to be an issue with the MAF sensors. The tune was kept conservative till that issue is resolved. This is also why it was never pushed all the way to 7,500rpm

ENT-Z 03-09-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 2204141)
Why doesn't the hp keep climbing?

What Sasha said. My car has some funky thing going on with the MAFs. I will update with a new dyno whenever we get that squared away.

fuct 03-09-2013 12:38 PM

i wasnt expecting so much torque at 9psi!

SS_Firehawk 03-09-2013 12:55 PM

Car definitely has a lot left, dyno stopped short of 7k and once those MAF bugs clear up, it should be even more kick arse

wheee! 03-09-2013 04:19 PM

Watching this kit on the dyno is amazing. It is such a fast spooling kit, for turbo, which is wild! Then to see hp and torque flatten out so early at such high numbers is crazy!

tower74 03-09-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 2194721)
Very cool man very cool , doesn't look like he's gonna win tho , that 240 seems to be getting all the votes :(

It says project 370z not Z. Why do they have all Zs involved? Why not call it project Z. I'm sure the 370z BP could be included.

ENT-Z 03-09-2013 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 2204644)
i want expecting so much torque at 9psi!

I know! I thought the same thing - that's crazy amount of torque. I expect my HP number to go up once we figure out what is wrong with the MAF.

Boosted Performance 03-09-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 2205027)
I know! I thought the same thing - that's crazy amount of torque. I expect my HP number to go up once we figure out what is wrong with the MAF.

Remember...I said that the test car (that made 513whp) still had a conservative timing map. The torque could have been pushed higher, but it is safer to keep it at 400ft/tq and even though the entire RPM range.

Each tuner will push things to a point where they feel confortable, unless asked to go further.

Sway 03-09-2013 10:04 PM

I was seriously looking at the GTM twin kit, but this one is very tempting... seems like it would be more reliable than a TT kit...
less things to break. Or am I just being ignorant? Reliability is a big thing for me, I want it to be as reliable as a nice DD
and be in the 500-550rwhp range on 93. I also really want to hear what this turbo kit sounds like on the street with load
on the engine. I didn't miss a video like that somewhere in here did I?

Boosted Performance 03-09-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sway (Post 2205168)
I was seriously looking at the GTM twin kit, but this one is very tempting... seems like it would be more reliable than a TT kit...
less things to break. Or am I just being ignorant? Reliability is a big thing for me, I want it to be as reliable as a nice DD
and be in the 500-550rwhp range on 93. I also really want to hear what this turbo kit sounds like on the street with load
on the engine. I didn't miss a video like that somewhere in here did I?

This kit is as simple and as efficient as you can get, and very capable when it comes to HP. The nice thing is that each component is easily accessible for servicing if needed. You also get to keep the car OEM, because there is not need to drill holes in anything, or remove vital things like the washer fluid reserovoir.

I am sure there will be videos surfacing in the near future as there will be. There will be 7 of these kits up and running very soon.

For what it's worth, the test car made 550whp at just under 10psi of boost...pump gas of course. This tune would have been a bit on the "aggressive side" for a stock block.

Sway 03-09-2013 11:44 PM

Sounds like the right kit for me... I like an aggressive turbo and bov sound, so I'm disappointed the turbo isn't ported,
but that's not a deal breaker. I really like the idea of keeping the car OEM... I've decided to hold off on buying the GTM TT
kit until I see some videos of this turbo set up. Thank for your response man. :tup:

Boosted Performance 03-10-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sway (Post 2205253)
Sounds like the right kit for me... I like an aggressive turbo and bov sound, so I'm disappointed the turbo isn't ported,
but that's not a deal breaker. I really like the idea of keeping the car OEM... I've decided to hold off on buying the GTM TT
kit until I see some videos of this turbo set up. Thank for your response man. :tup:

I am sure you will like what you hear. With the F.I resonated exhaust all you hear is the turbo. It really is a great combination of parts.

As for the ported turbo.....I was hoping it would work, but there is just not enough room on the 370z. The 3 bollt header flange is just too large, and hangs very low. The fact that the charge piping coming off the compressor is right there does not help either. The E compressor cover that I use fits just perfect though.

On the 350z I am able to use the SP cover:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...pse2a6ce4a.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps914bb852.jpg


On the 350z though, the charge piping is routed very different, since the starter is on the passenger side, and there is a lot of room on the drivers side (don't mind the random color couplers and the squashed air filter, this was still in the test fit stage for the very first twin scroll kit for the VQ's):

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/S1032329.jpg

Sway 03-10-2013 03:33 PM

Ah yeah I see that... That makes sense.
Just how well you respond and how quickly makes me want to buy product from you.
I'm excited to see a car with this set up rolling now! F.I. was my exhaust of choice in
the first place, so that's good to hear as well... I've never had a setup mounted like this
though... The turbo or none of the piping is gonna hang too low for dropped Z's are they?

Boosted Performance 03-10-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sway (Post 2205788)
Ah yeah I see that... That makes sense.
Just how well you respond and how quickly makes me want to buy product from you.
I'm excited to see a car with this set up rolling now! F.I. was my exhaust of choice in
the first place, so that's good to hear as well... I've never had a setup mounted like this
though... The turbo or none of the piping is gonna hang too low for dropped Z's are they?

No, nothing is hanging low. A dual 3" exhaust for example will hand much lower than anything you see there.

All the components sit above the front subframe.

COSMO 03-10-2013 07:21 PM

I would think because of the air filter location that it would get dirty really fast.. Hell what do I know..

tower74 03-10-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmogirl (Post 2206090)
I would think because of the air filter location that it would get dirty really fast.. Hell what do I know..

Well unless you live on a dirt road you should be fine. My old turbos air filter (STS) was completely exposed and only had to change/clean it every other time I changed the oil.

m3chhawk 03-10-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 2206206)
Well unless you live on a dirt road you should be fine. My old turbos air filter (STS) was completely exposed and only had to change/clean it every other time I changed the oil.

Pre-charger or Dry-charger will go a long way as well.

NitrousZ34 03-10-2013 09:30 PM

Sasha any update on when you will start making the next batch of these kits?
:tup:

TopgunZ 03-11-2013 11:32 AM

Well with the fact that the filter is easier to take off than most FI filters, cleaning it shouldnt be an issue.

GaleForce 03-11-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 2206997)
Well with the fact that the filter is easier to take off than most FI filters, cleaning it shouldnt be an issue.

For what a filter costs, I'm going to buy a second one. Then I can replace the dirty one with a clean one during an oil change and clean the dirty one at my leisure.

Mitco39 03-11-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2207016)
For what a filter costs, I'm going to buy a second one. Then I can replace the dirty one with a clean one during an oil change and clean the dirty one at my leisure.

Just like a pair of Underwear! :happydance: I had to go and buy a second pair, one pair just was not cutting it!


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