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elperuano 10-05-2012 07:19 PM

Very nice Sasha, I been a fan/follower from over on my350. Was just playing with the poster, tried to add for entertainment purpose only lol. Not trying to attack you or anything at all.

The kit looks great, great design. I can't wait to see one of these rolling around Miami. Would be fun :) good luck with everything moving forward. You're gonna be very very busy it seems!

Boosted Performance 10-05-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 1947006)
Very nice Sasha, I been a fan/follower from over on my350. Was just playing with the poster, tried to add for entertainment purpose only lol. Not trying to attack you or anything at all.

The kit looks great, great design. I can't wait to see one of these rolling around Miami. Would be fun :) good luck with everything moving forward. You're gonna be very very busy it seems!

Thank you, and I did not take it as an attack...it gave me the opportunity to elaborate a bit on the tuning aspect of things. I edited my post to support the satement, with a second party dyno chart.

Boosted Performance 10-05-2012 09:52 PM

I should also mention that I am working with Tony at F.I to make the purchase of the F.I exhaust system possible with the kit.

There would be a non resonated option with the turbo kit, as well as a resonated.

With the turbo acting like a large muffler, some of you may not like the dead silent 500whp car. With the resonators removed, the tone would most definetly be more agressive.

ZeN 10-06-2012 05:00 AM

What a great product you have there Shaha, flat TQ line..nice !!..why oh why i bought 7AT Z.

Mr.Squeeze 10-06-2012 07:50 AM

That 550WHP pull is really nice graph even though it starts off at 12 psi then fall's off up top to 9 psi. To me it looks like the boost controller is just not holding boost that really is a nice graph though.

I really cant wait to see more people out there with this kit on a 370z

I am also looking forward to seeing the 76mm built motor 350z you have out there in action that is getting real close.

Nixlimited 10-06-2012 10:31 AM

If the kit only preserved the crash beam... That's a non-starter for me. Awesome results though. Nice for the community to have options.

ENT-Z 10-06-2012 10:35 AM

Is losing the crash beam really that big of a deal? Doesn't the FMIC kind of replace it? I haven't examined the beam that closely, but isn't it just hollow aluminum?

Boosted Performance 10-06-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 1947778)
Is losing the crash beam really that big of a deal? Doesn't the FMIC kind of replace it? I haven't examined the beam that closely, but isn't it just hollow aluminum?

No, yes, and yes.

There is a lot of aluminium replacing the crash bar:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7237.jpg

The brackets are 304 stainless, not aluminium, so much stronger than average:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7200.jpg

Cuban Z 10-06-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by boosted performance (Post 1947795)
there is a lot of aluminium replacing the crash bar: http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7237.jpg

sweet!:d

bx_superior 10-06-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1947260)
I should also mention that I am working with Tony at F.I to make the purchase of the F.I exhaust system possible with the kit.

Do this and you'll have my sale.

Boosted Performance 10-06-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bx_superior (Post 1947828)
Do this and you'll have my sale.

I will do my best. The guys are F.I are great, spoke to Tony for about 15 minutes a short while ago....very nice guy, and has a lot of ideas/views as I do when it comes to taking care of his customers. I am sure we will come up with something soon...they are very busy as well.

As for those still following this...a couple of more morning shots:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...9548237368.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...9548169617.jpg

Have to go out and get some 3" exhaust clamps for this one:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...9548304281.jpg

FastDad 10-06-2012 01:37 PM

Sasha (or others) would you know/recommend a shop in the Ottawa area where we can get your kit installed? I'm a bit of a neophyte in the area of force induction although been following related treads for quite a while.

Now that it looks we will not get more power from the next generation of Z's (Mini Z ???), and can get a well engineered canadian product, I think I'm ready for the big jump.
Thanks Sasha, Keep going with the good work.

GaleForce 10-06-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDad (Post 1947941)
Sasha (or others) would you know/recommend a shop in the Ottawa area where we can get your kit installed? I'm a bit of a neophyte in the area of force induction although been following related treads for quite a while.

Now that it looks we will not get more power from the next generation of Z's (Mini Z ???), and can get a well engineered canadian product, I think I'm ready for the big jump.
Thanks Sasha, Keep going with the good work.

I'm in Cobourg, just a couple of hours west of you. I'm doing the install myself. I have a good size garage, and own enough tools to do this with ease. After, I'll be driving my car to Vince at R/T tuning for a proper tune. He's approximately 8 hours away, but worth the drive.

If there is anything I can help you with let me know.

GaleForce 10-06-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1698469)
The two post cat O2 sensors will go on to the driver side pipe feeding the turbo. Since these are post cat it is ok.

You can see two cicles if you look hard, dirver side down stream of the flex pipe, on the left side or inside..however you want to look at it. (second last pictures)

There will be a bung on the down pipe (about 10" downs tream from turbo) for a wideband sensor.

So, the bung for the wideband sensor will be standard?

Boosted Performance 10-06-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1948313)
So, the bung for the wideband sensor will be standard?

You bet.

sojirovskensi 10-06-2012 11:13 PM

@Galeforce
PM'ed

GaleForce 10-06-2012 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sojirovskensi (Post 1948409)
@Galeforce
PM'ed

Returned :tiphat:

Boosted Performance 10-07-2012 01:35 PM

Aaaaaaaan all together now:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...9633861286.jpg


Tomorrow I will see if I can get a new set of pipes tacked up in the jigs...see how long that takes. Overall I am very happy with how the jigs turned out, and fitment should be perfect. I still have to order a coule of flanges for the Tial MV-S gates. They will be used on the diverter tube, where the gates connect (lower left jig).

Now I need to order some more 2" 90deg elbows..enough for the 6 kits I plan on building right away.

IC piping is much easier to duplicate, so no worries there.


Something to note...The kits will use one Tial BOV not two like the original kit. It will be located at the intercooler inlet just below the scavenge pump on the U bend in this picture:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7291.jpg


This is the main reason the kit is a bit cheaper than I had initially posted. At the same time with the BOV being there, those that purchase the kit for California, the charge pipes will look more like a CAI vs. a turbo kit. The only way one can tell the difference is if they look at the intercooler. It closes the OEM bumper opening rather well, so it not as obvoius unless one knows what to look for.

Nixlimited 10-07-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 1947778)
Is losing the crash beam really that big of a deal? Doesn't the FMIC kind of replace it? I haven't examined the beam that closely, but isn't it just hollow aluminum?

As is pointed out above, there is a lot of metal going in its place. That certainly would help. The difference is the crash bar is designed to direct impact energy around the front impact area and into the frame siderails and away from the cockpit. The FMIC is not designed for this purpose. In a serious collision, I would venture to guess that the crash beam would be a significantly safer option.

Not taking anything away from this awesome kit. Just saying that an FMIC and a purpose-built crash beam are apples and oranges from a safety perspective.

sojirovskensi 10-07-2012 04:53 PM

Jigs look awesome. I'm already excited!

JMac88 10-07-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1948916)
As is pointed out above, there is a lot of metal going in its place. That certainly would help. The difference is the crash bar is designed to direct impact energy around the front impact area and into the frame siderails and away from the cockpit. The FMIC is not designed for this purpose. In a serious collision, I would venture to guess that the crash beam would be a significantly safer option.

Not taking anything away from this awesome kit. Just saying that an FMIC and a purpose-built crash beam are apples and oranges from a safety perspective.

Looks like FI could never be in your future. Wether you lose the crash and replace it with an intercooler, or jam intercoolers behind the crash bar not allowing it to crumple your going to have to give up something. Moral of the story, don't get in an accident lol

NeverBoneStck 10-07-2012 07:55 PM

I really hope this fits the G 37 ... Can't wait for the first reviews to start trickling in ...

Mr.Squeeze 10-07-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 1947778)
Is losing the crash beam really that big of a deal? Doesn't the FMIC kind of replace it? I haven't examined the beam that closely, but isn't it just hollow aluminum?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 1949224)
Looks like FI could never be in your future. Wether you lose the crash and replace it with an intercooler, or jam intercoolers behind the crash bar not allowing it to crumple your going to have to give up something. Moral of the story, don't get in an accident lol


Round of applause:bowrofl:

I agree with what you, the only thing I miss about my crash beam is my tow hook.

The JIG's look awesome

Neo187H 10-07-2012 08:32 PM

What all does the "tuner" kit come with as opposed to the complete kit? I'm assuming no fuel pump, injectors or UpRev?

GaleForce 10-07-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo187H (Post 1949312)
What all does the "tuner" kit come with as opposed to the complete kit? I'm assuming no fuel pump, injectors or UpRev?

Check this link for your answer, What is included in the tuner kit

Basically like you assume, no fuel support and no UpRev.

Nixlimited 10-08-2012 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 1949224)
Looks like FI could never be in your future. Wether you lose the crash and replace it with an intercooler, or jam intercoolers behind the crash bar not allowing it to crumple your going to have to give up something. Moral of the story, don't get in an accident lol

It's definitely in my future, but it will be with a crash beam. Having survived two accidents that I probably shouldn't have, I am remiss to mess with the safety engineers' work...

But, the point of this thread is BP's kit, which looks to be coming along quite nicely :tup:

Neo187H 10-08-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1949414)
Check this link for your answer, What is included in the tuner kit

Basically like you assume, no fuel support and no UpRev.


Thank you, totally skipped over that.

roplusbee 10-08-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1949278)
Round of applause:bowrofl:

I agree with what you, the only thing I miss about my crash beam is my tow hook.

The JIG's look awesome

Ditto.

To Boosted Performance:

Not sure if I am reading the graph correctly, but is this puppy in full boost by 3500-4000 ish RPM? That would be crazy fast for a street car.

Boosted Performance 10-08-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1950135)
Ditto.

To Boosted Performance:

Not sure if I am reading the graph correctly, but is this puppy in full boost by 3500-4000 ish RPM? That would be crazy fast for a street car.


With the boost controller 10psi by 3800rpm, so yes it is very responsive.

SS_Firehawk 10-08-2012 03:32 PM

Sent you a PM. Heading to bed though. I'm on the other side of the planet making money's for the another 10 months

Boosted Performance 10-08-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 1950625)
Sent you a PM. Heading to bed though. I'm on the other side of the planet making money's for the another 10 months

Replied. Will email you some pictures when I get a chance.

JMac88 10-08-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1950236)
With the boost controller 10psi by 3800rpm, so yes it is very responsive.

It spools that fast without the boost controller as well. My gain is only set at 15 with my current setup

98intrigue 10-08-2012 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 1951048)
It spools that fast without the boost controller as well. My gain is only set at 15 with my current setup

That's where I was at. I wish I had more time to mess with the gain to have boost come on sooner, but spinning the tires at 60mph when hitting full boost in 3rd gear wasn't the best powerband haha...although fun!

Boosted Performance 10-08-2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1951155)
That's where I was at. I wish I had more time to mess with the gain to have boost come on sooner, but spinning the tires at 60mph when hitting full boost in 3rd gear wasn't the best powerband haha...although fun!

You can see the benefit of a low mount twin scroll (vs. to mount open turbine housing) if you were spooling the same with your T3 .82 a/r (equivalent turbine). In theory that turbine should have spool a good bit faster compared to a T4 1.0 a/r twin scroll, since it is much smaller.

Here is another example...also twin scroll but with the larger 67mm turbo. This was a 6766 1.0 a/t twin scroll on a 350z (so even less displacement to drive the turbine):

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...scrolldyno.jpg


You can see by the torque, that with some aggressive timing it was spooled at 3500rpm (to 9psi spring pressure). For DJ conversion add 13% to the final numbers.

Boosted Performance 10-09-2012 06:29 PM

A non resonated version of the F.I exhaust system will be available for purchase with the kit. This is only available through me with the kit, and I do not offer it separately. If you wish to order it seperate, you would have to contact F.I directly.

This non resonated system is built to work with the BP turbo kit, to have a more agressive note. The resonated system can still be used, but it is very quiet (stock like), and some may want something a bit louder.

The turbo acts like a large muffler, so the need for resonators is eliminated.

ENT-Z 10-09-2012 08:21 PM

For those of us with the resonated FI system already, can we purchase just the non resonated h-pipe section (i.e. no need to buy new mufflers too)?

Boosted Performance 10-09-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 1952998)
For those of us with the resonated FI system already, can we purchase just the non resonated h-pipe section (i.e. no need to buy new mufflers too)?

I would have to look in to this. The guys at F.I are very busy, so perhaps down the road it may be an option.

The resonators will not hinder performance at all, the exhaust will only be quieter.

ZtoG37 10-09-2012 10:25 PM

hey Sasha do you think the mxp exhaust system would bolt up to your turbo system with out mods
Google Image Result for http://www.vexmotorsports.com/assets/images/mxp/exhaust/infiniti/mxp-exhaust-g37truedual.jpg

Boosted Performance 10-09-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZtoG37 (Post 1953168)
hey Sasha do you think the mxp exhaust system would bolt up to your turbo system with out mods
Google Image Result for http://www.vexmotorsports.com/assets/images/mxp/exhaust/infiniti/mxp-exhaust-g37truedual.jpg

Sorry, but that exhaust system will not bolt up. The Y section is very long, and the two 2-bolt flanges are further back.




I should also mention that I have deposits on 4 kit at the moment. Two are astill avaialble, although a couple of people have asked for paypal info.

Sasha

Boosted Performance 10-10-2012 08:31 AM

One custome backed out, so I issued a refund on the deposit this morning. There are now 3 kits still available.


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