Blackonorange's STS Turbo Build!! - Done by Speedtech Saskatoon

blackonorange · 03-02-2012, 12:08 PM

Uhhh well supposed to get the base map from Marc today so maybe Tommorrow

Ron · 03-02-2012, 12:32 PM

Those cats are restricting exhaust gases, they are not getting to the turbo with the same velocity, it doesn't take just heat to make a turbo spool faster.

More power = higher exh temps, this will eventually destroy your cats, when that happens fragments are gonna take your turbo out.

This is just advise, not trying to bash on your build.

I like those wheels!, car looks mean.

Cell · 03-02-2012, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron

Those cats are restricting exhaust gases, they are not getting to the turbo with the same velocity, it doesn't take just heat to make a turbo spool faster.

More power = higher exh temps, this will eventually destroy your cats, when that happens fragments are gonna take your turbo out.

This is just advise, not trying to bash on your build.

I like those wheels!, car looks mean.

That's what I was saying. I am not trying to bash either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackonorange

I know you had good points but those cars weren't 370s and you don't know what their tune was like if the tuner just dumps the fuel to it that's when they fail I had this exact talk with Marc and he told me about it and how it transfers heat I your that worried about email him, I'm not arguing with you anymore.

I still love your build just have that concern for the cats. If I were to go through the same build now, I would remove the cats for peace of mind rather than worry every time I boost.

gbrettin · 03-02-2012, 01:26 PM

What about ceramic coated hfc's? That would help keep the heat in right?

Oh yeah.

In for the results! (and videos if you can)

Boosted Performance · 03-02-2012, 01:56 PM

Agree with the comments on the catalytics. You will lose velocity and heat by keeping them. This will in turn make less power, spool slower, and once they blow up will destroy the turbo.

On a side note, that is the worst FMIC design I have ever seen. I thought the FMIC on the 350z JWT kits was bad, but this one takes the cake.

With the market fluded with nice fmic's (like the one linked below) why use something like that.

http://www.maperformance.com/product...stone_TRTT.jpg

Ron · 03-02-2012, 01:57 PM

There u go, and before you some start bashing on Boosted Z.. this is his work:

Alberta owners turbo interest?

erkthejerk73 · 03-02-2012, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Z

Agree with the comments on the catalytics. You will lose velocity and heat by keeping them. This will in turn make less power, spool slower, and once they blow up will destroy the turbo.

On a side note, that is the worst FMIC design I have ever seen. I thought the FMIC on the 350z JWT kits was bad, but this one takes the cake.

With the market fluded with nice fmic's (like the one linked below) why use something like that.

http://www.maperformance.com/product...stone_TRTT.jpg

i agree it looks ugly, but if it does the job...

btw is it april yet?

edub370 · 03-02-2012, 02:21 PM

I think that fmic would be plenty fine for the low amt of boost that most people are running. although not the most efficient, im sure switching intrcoolers at the psi level we run (7-10psi for most) would be neglegible. especially since there is already an extremely cool, dense charge coming from the remote mount turbo.

so could it be improved, ya. does it need to be, not at all

tower74 · 03-02-2012, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Z

Agree with the comments on the catalytics. You will lose velocity and heat by keeping them. This will in turn make less power, spool slower, and once they blow up will destroy the turbo.

On a side note, that is the worst FMIC design I have ever seen. I thought the FMIC on the 350z JWT kits was bad, but this one takes the cake.

With the market fluded with nice fmic's (like the one linked below) why use something like that.

http://www.maperformance.com/product...stone_TRTT.jpg

and it begins.. Come on guys. I can understand your concerns but this is his first build. Let's just keep at that...HIS BUILD...People will choose what they like and for the price and performance. Not because someone else has a problem with the design, kits, etc. Just let the man enjoy what is about to happen and be happy for him. Sorry had to say it because it went from a simple concern to full blown "this kit is better" type discussion.

blackonorange · 03-02-2012, 02:41 PM

I though it looked cool.... But oh well

blackonorange · 03-02-2012, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron

Those cats are restricting exhaust gases, they are not getting to the turbo with the same velocity, it doesn't take just heat to make a turbo spool faster.

More power = higher exh temps, this will eventually destroy your cats, when that happens fragments are gonna take your turbo out.

This is just advise, not trying to bash on your build.

I like those wheels!, car looks mean.

Of I am unhappy with spool up time I'll get them gutted and ceramic coated and we can compare

Ron · 03-02-2012, 02:48 PM

blackonorange · 03-02-2012, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron

Looking at the graph on the nismo that STS posted spool up time should be fine but every car is different

Ron · 03-02-2012, 03:06 PM

Spool up time would be the least of my concerns if the car was mine. I only mentioned it because you were told that by keeping the cats the turbos will spool faster. This is not true.

I would be worried about the cat failing and then picking the turbo in pieces.

erkthejerk73 · 03-02-2012, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron

Spool up time would be the least of my concerns if the car was mine. I only mentioned it because you were told that by keeping the cats the turbos will spool faster. This is not true.

I would be worried about the cat failing and then picking the turbo in pieces.

yeah i agree, spending that much on a turbo just to have it destroyed by some debris would break my heart!

03-02-2012, 12:32 PM	#32 (permalink)
Ron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,009 Drives: TT '11 PW Nismo #113 Rep Power: 22	Those cats are restricting exhaust gases, they are not getting to the turbo with the same velocity, it doesn't take just heat to make a turbo spool faster. More power = higher exh temps, this will eventually destroy your cats, when that happens fragments are gonna take your turbo out. This is just advise, not trying to bash on your build. I like those wheels!, car looks mean. __________________ 2011 Twin Turbo PW nismo #113 - My Journal - My TT Build Thread [ GTM GTX Stg2 TT \|\| HKS EVC6 \|\| Custom CarPC \|\| F.I 3'' TDX CBE \|\| SB 6puck clutch/ZSpeed CSC \|\| BC BR Coilovers \|\| SPC camber arms \|\| Work VSS-X \|\| Custom Headlights \|\| PW:JDM CF Covers \|\| Seibon CF Engine Cover ]

03-02-2012, 01:56 PM	#35 (permalink)
Boosted Performance The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 1,629 Drives: Z's Rep Power: 3383	Agree with the comments on the catalytics. You will lose velocity and heat by keeping them. This will in turn make less power, spool slower, and once they blow up will destroy the turbo. On a side note, that is the worst FMIC design I have ever seen. I thought the FMIC on the 350z JWT kits was bad, but this one takes the cake. With the market fluded with nice fmic's (like the one linked below) why use something like that. http://www.maperformance.com/product...stone_TRTT.jpg Last edited by Boosted Performance; 03-02-2012 at 01:59 PM.

03-02-2012, 01:57 PM	#36 (permalink)
Ron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,009 Drives: TT '11 PW Nismo #113 Rep Power: 22	There u go, and before you some start bashing on Boosted Z.. this is his work: Alberta owners turbo interest? __________________ 2011 Twin Turbo PW nismo #113 - My Journal - My TT Build Thread [ GTM GTX Stg2 TT \|\| HKS EVC6 \|\| Custom CarPC \|\| F.I 3'' TDX CBE \|\| SB 6puck clutch/ZSpeed CSC \|\| BC BR Coilovers \|\| SPC camber arms \|\| Work VSS-X \|\| Custom Headlights \|\| PW:JDM CF Covers \|\| Seibon CF Engine Cover ]

03-02-2012, 02:21 PM	#38 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 21	I think that fmic would be plenty fine for the low amt of boost that most people are running. although not the most efficient, im sure switching intrcoolers at the psi level we run (7-10psi for most) would be neglegible. especially since there is already an extremely cool, dense charge coming from the remote mount turbo. so could it be improved, ya. does it need to be, not at all __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

03-02-2012, 02:48 PM	#42 (permalink)
Ron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,009 Drives: TT '11 PW Nismo #113 Rep Power: 22	__________________ 2011 Twin Turbo PW nismo #113 - My Journal - My TT Build Thread [ GTM GTX Stg2 TT \|\| HKS EVC6 \|\| Custom CarPC \|\| F.I 3'' TDX CBE \|\| SB 6puck clutch/ZSpeed CSC \|\| BC BR Coilovers \|\| SPC camber arms \|\| Work VSS-X \|\| Custom Headlights \|\| PW:JDM CF Covers \|\| Seibon CF Engine Cover ]

03-02-2012, 12:08 PM	#31 (permalink)
blackonorange A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,078 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 17	Uhhh well supposed to get the base map from Marc today so maybe Tommorrow

03-02-2012, 01:26 PM	#34 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,301 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589151	What about ceramic coated hfc's? That would help keep the heat in right? Oh yeah. In for the results! (and videos if you can)

03-02-2012, 02:41 PM	#40 (permalink)
blackonorange A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,078 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 17	I though it looked cool.... But oh well

03-02-2012, 03:06 PM	#44 (permalink)
Ron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,009 Drives: TT '11 PW Nismo #113 Rep Power: 22	Spool up time would be the least of my concerns if the car was mine. I only mentioned it because you were told that by keeping the cats the turbos will spool faster. This is not true. I would be worried about the cat failing and then picking the turbo in pieces. __________________ 2011 Twin Turbo PW nismo #113 - My Journal - My TT Build Thread [ GTM GTX Stg2 TT \|\| HKS EVC6 \|\| Custom CarPC \|\| F.I 3'' TDX CBE \|\| SB 6puck clutch/ZSpeed CSC \|\| BC BR Coilovers \|\| SPC camber arms \|\| Work VSS-X \|\| Custom Headlights \|\| PW:JDM CF Covers \|\| Seibon CF Engine Cover ]

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