GTM Performance Engineering stage 2 600hp supercharger kits line-up press release

SAM@GTM · 09-13-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

Apparently mine ships today...

Terrific press release, Sam!

Thanks Travis, When is the next track event with the SC system on the car ?

Sam

blackonorange · 09-13-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

The 03/04 Cobra ran 12.9 out of the box. There are stock Z's doing that on here. Considering the Cobra makes 390hp/390tq out of the box the real weakness is in its IRS. Even with the whipple you'll make the #'s but you'll never put it down. You would have to swap out to a 2004 Mustang GT solid axle to get consistent traction. Of course if you do so you lose the little handling capabilities the IRS gave the 03/04 cobra. Undoubtedly a great car, 4.6L cast iron factory S/C but it won't be able to run with an S/C stg2 Z. Now if you want to talk about price and bang for the buck that's kind of dumb considering you're talking about a car almost 10 years old, of course the aftermarket is dirt cheap even by mustang standards now. The 03/04 Cobra is heavy, handles poorly and has nothing going for it except that engine which has been eclipsed by the new 5.0. Time to move on man, I was on the verge of getting a Cobra before the Z but I can't live in the past. 17K if not paid in full, will lead to an upside down auto loan, which blows!

Thank you, lol I didn't wanna be the one to tell him that

DarkZide · 09-13-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange

Thank you, lol I didn't wanna be the one to tell him that

He didn't tell me anything and you weren't going to either. Thinking the Z is superior to the Cobra when taking into the consideration of the time difference of their production and technologies at the time is fool hardy. Look at the Z you had in production at that time....a 350z that couldn't outrun a mustang GT from that same era.

shumby · 09-13-2011, 04:21 PM

Sam. will LTH's work on either the stage 1 or stage 2? Would like to put these on when I get my trans. As well would you have a base tune for this or should I get a local shop to tune after LTH install?

NYBladeZ · 09-13-2011, 04:25 PM

Last I checked a 350z on a road circuit will more than handle a Cobra. Based on your posts you have a history with built Stangs, as do I. I'm telling you for a fact, even with the IRS brace, the Cobra is only good for straight lines. Hell almost all Mustangs are until the new 5.0 which is in a category of its own.

You can point away the money argument all you want, its irrelevant, I could get a CRX throw in a built spoon engine run a 200 shot and blow a Cobra's doors off at far less than $17k. A turbo charged z34 or s/c z34 will take a Cobra even a whippled one in a straight light however throw a turn in there and a small margin of victory on a drag strip will turn into bus lengths on a road course. The Cobra is nose heavy, the suspension is crap why do you think the IRS never carried over and if your friend financed all or part of the $17k it means in the long run he pays more than $17k and got ripped off, end of story. Now stop making me trash the Cobra bc I love that car more than any mustang to ever see the road during my lifetime, I'm just not delusional.

NYBladeZ · 09-13-2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby

Sam. will LTH's work on either the stage 1 or stage 2? Would like to put these on when I get my trans. As well would you have a base tune for this or should I get a local shop to tune after LTH install?

I have a bad feeling the LTH's will not help SC'd guys until VVEL is cracked, it just flows to damn well.

shumby · 09-13-2011, 04:36 PM

YA that is the issue I ran into with Sam and my install. But i thibnk dreamer is runnign LTH's on his SC.

NYBladeZ · 09-13-2011, 04:39 PM

Yeah I know he is, but I don't think he's making any real gains with them. Hopefully sam will shed some light. Initially sam said that LTH's wont work unless modified to fit the Stage 2.

blackonorange · 09-13-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide

He didn't tell me anything and you weren't going to either. Thinking the Z is superior to the Cobra when taking into the consideration of the time difference of their production and technologies at the time is fool hardy. Look at the Z you had in production at that time....a 350z that couldn't outrun a mustang GT from that same era.

I bought my z cause it has suede ( a form of suede I guess), cause it's got power seats, steering wheel controls . What I'm getting at is it has options, it's refined. That stuff costs money it's not just straight power it's a refined power. There's more to a car then just a 1/4 mile time so don't come in here saying we are all crazy for paying what we do. My Roomate has a 06 gto , I could argue with muscle heads all day

G37sHKS · 09-13-2011, 04:44 PM

Okay how come this thread went from Sc press release to Cobra vs 370Z?

blackonorange · 09-13-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS

Okay how come this thread went from Sc press release to Cobra vs 370Z?

I know sorry.. Great work Sam looks great, I'm just not a fan of the tq numbers and I'm set on STs system but if I was going this route I would be ecstatic about this kit

NYBladeZ · 09-13-2011, 04:54 PM

Me too, I'm going to start banging and yelling "We need a VVEL Crack." Its the final piece of the puzzle.

Jamaica · 09-13-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby

YA that is the issue I ran into with Sam and my install. But i thibnk dreamer is runnign LTH's on his SC.

not anymore.

Do people really think Sam will modify the kit to fit LTH?

blackonorange · 09-13-2011, 04:56 PM

Is that the reason for the lower tq numbers?

NYBladeZ · 09-13-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports

not anymore.

Do people really think Sam will modify the kit to fit LTH?

I think the LTH's will need to be modified, either way in the long term you're asking for it if you continue to run stock cats. I'll wait on going f.i. until everything is said and done, problem is I'll be waiting for a while.

09-13-2011, 04:21 PM	#94 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 236	Sam. will LTH's work on either the stage 1 or stage 2? Would like to put these on when I get my trans. As well would you have a base tune for this or should I get a local shop to tune after LTH install? __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

09-13-2011, 04:25 PM	#95 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	Last I checked a 350z on a road circuit will more than handle a Cobra. Based on your posts you have a history with built Stangs, as do I. I'm telling you for a fact, even with the IRS brace, the Cobra is only good for straight lines. Hell almost all Mustangs are until the new 5.0 which is in a category of its own. You can point away the money argument all you want, its irrelevant, I could get a CRX throw in a built spoon engine run a 200 shot and blow a Cobra's doors off at far less than $17k. A turbo charged z34 or s/c z34 will take a Cobra even a whippled one in a straight light however throw a turn in there and a small margin of victory on a drag strip will turn into bus lengths on a road course. The Cobra is nose heavy, the suspension is crap why do you think the IRS never carried over and if your friend financed all or part of the $17k it means in the long run he pays more than $17k and got ripped off, end of story. Now stop making me trash the Cobra bc I love that car more than any mustang to ever see the road during my lifetime, I'm just not delusional. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

09-13-2011, 04:36 PM	#97 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 236	YA that is the issue I ran into with Sam and my install. But i thibnk dreamer is runnign LTH's on his SC. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

09-13-2011, 04:39 PM	#98 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	Yeah I know he is, but I don't think he's making any real gains with them. Hopefully sam will shed some light. Initially sam said that LTH's wont work unless modified to fit the Stage 2. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

09-13-2011, 04:54 PM	#102 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	Me too, I'm going to start banging and yelling "We need a VVEL Crack." Its the final piece of the puzzle. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

09-13-2011, 04:44 PM	#100 (permalink)
G37sHKS A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,183 Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT Rep Power: 20	Okay how come this thread went from Sc press release to Cobra vs 370Z?

09-13-2011, 04:56 PM	#104 (permalink)
blackonorange A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,078 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 15	Is that the reason for the lower tq numbers?

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