Did you talk to sam about his radiator?

I was unaware he had one available

it's amazing bro... from what I hear anyway :tup:

if someone has a supercharger kit they have no choice but to sell it to them. id definitly think a vendor for them could get one but I still think you would need the cerial number on the kit itself. Procharger does the same thing you can even speak to them without the cerial number of the kit. Once i gave them a cerial number they gave me any part I need. Thats there way to not get copied lol. If you got a cerial number i almost guarantee i can get it for you. Id have my friend at a nissan dealership order it.

I think a formal announcement should be coming in the next few days.

Is this the radiator that you speak of?

370Z Upgraded Radiator with Condenser

Yes.

I also found a similar diagram however it is not the correct one, nor is yours. The pins and colors do NOT correspond with what's on Ryan's car.

Damnit!:mad:

Pics of what is on ryans car that is different?

Assuming the connector diagram (view) above:

Pin 1 - not used on either MAF

Color codes as follows:

Driver side MAF

Pin 1 - not used
Pin 2 - Grey
Pin 3 - Yellow
Pin 4 - Brown
Pin 5 - Light green
Pin 6 - Black

Pass. side MAF

Pin 1 - not used
Pin 2 - Yellow
Pin 3 - Bright green
Pin 4 - Teal
Pin 5 - Pink
Pin 6 - Black

Yes GTM has it. They actually showed pics of it to. Should be out by the time the stagee 2 comes out.

I called stillen they will call me back today.

What voltages did you see on them? Colors seem close to flipped.

YAR! I am hoping to get one as well.

I haven't taken a meter to it because both MAF signal and IAT signal are 0-5v, no way of distinguishing between the two. The car is very (tuning) dependent upon the MAF signals, I'm not going to guess or experiment, nor will I settle for a "close" wiring diagram. I'll try things on cars I've worked with numerous times, not this one though

Throw an o-scope probe on there and it should be really obvious which is which. Sounds like Nissan swapped out the teal and black wires, and you're reading the diagram backwards, but who knows. If the yellow comes up at +12v, it's definitely worth plugging in your oscilloscope.

MAF signal should vary with RPM right? While IAT signal should be fairly stable while not at idle?

I can't get a meter on the harnesses with them plugged in, I don't want to strip any wires yet

Here's the info had from probing the harnesses, ignition on, MAF's unplugged

Pass side

Pin 2 (yellow) - 12v
Pin 3 (green) - Signal from sensor to dme
Pin 4 (teal) - Signal from sensor to dme
Pin 5 (pink) - 5v from dme
Pin 6 (black) - Ground

Driver side

Pin 2 (grey) - 12v
Pin 3 (yellow) - Signal from sensor to dme
Pin 4 (brown) - Signal from sensor to dme
Pin 5 (green) - 5v from dme
Pin 6 (black) - Ground

Bridged the IAT and MAF +'s, using the signal from the passenger side (lower reading) MAF. First starting the car, the a/f's seem much better than previously, now around 14.6-15.5 sweeping at idle

holy god.. i just read this entire thread. all i can say is im glad your sticking with it and it will be all worth it in the end. to the rest of you.. there are some very technical and knowledge based people on here. with all of this info.. this setup has to end up working soon.

best of luck man. im in for updates.

At this point, why not just go standalone and MAP metering. Then the piping won't matter.

There's no standalone currently available for the 370Z. Even if there was, that's another $2k minimum.

this is true, but you are pretty much baller :)

actually I am suprised we don't have a full stand alone yet..

Just subscribed. Remember Chris Columbus was looking for India when he found America. Thats supposed to be encouraging.

Very impressed and good luck man.

Doesn't UPREV allow you to switch to MAP sensors as opposed to MAF sensors? That would probably be the way to go, especially if you are running higher boost.....

I will be exploring this as well

Read all 40+ pages, very cool indeed. I am glad 98intrigue is sticking to it and I am sure he will get it working.

I had a friend of mine took the ech and somehow rewired the harness to work on the 370z harness but yea that would be a whole other animal to deal with. stillen manifold will end all the bs lol.

Why are you surprised?

MAP sensors run on 0-5v just as the MAF's do. You could most likely remove the MAF's and replace them with MAP on the stock ECU and with the proper tune it should work. You'd have to add a separate IAT sensor (also 0-5v) as well

Signal is probably coded differently though....not sure though.

Tell me about it! I cant figure out how to get one though.

FYI Ryan

Stillen said no

I thought the Stillen manifold was also part of the SC system in handling the water to air exchange, thus it would not be a simple plug & play for others?

Get the Kinetix. :stirthepot:

that's pretty lame man...

Have you tried getting it through someone who already has a Stillen kit?

i don't think still is that naive. :icon17:

Damnit! I just PMed you asking too...so disregard my PM.
It is built for air-to-water, but it's easily removable and a block off plate can be installed.
I'll get right on that!:bowrofl:
Yeah, I've called Stillen, PMed Stillen, have had at least 4 vendors call Stillen...I think they'll know who the manifold is really for if someone pulled that. Haha.

What is Stillen's reason for not selling you the manifold?

I would hope there is a rational explanation.

I think the intake runners is just like the 350z so a kinetix intake manifold for a 350z could probably be easily modified to mount the 2 maf sensors.