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Vegitto-kun 02-09-2011 08:49 AM

engine swap?

oh wait the engine only works with the GT-R gearbox.

engine and gearbox swap

bullitt5897 02-09-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 933752)
engine swap?

oh wait the engine only works with the GT-R gearbox.

engine and gearbox swap

that would be a B!TCH of a swap...

phelan 02-09-2011 12:39 PM

GTM - what software are you using to model the new components? what kind of stress considerations were considered in using plastic material on a critical component like this? (sorry, my engine knowhow / engineering is still pretty limited, so just trying to learn a few things)

Mike - i thought you were going to DD the dragon? wasn't that the whole point of the build? i mean, i've no problem with the STi, looks REALLY good. just wondering why the philosophy change?

(and can you buy me a new DD? kthx!)

Vegitto-kun 02-09-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 934125)
that would be a B!TCH of a swap...

but image the amounts of press you would get? :roflpuke2:

lets see, fitting the engine is probably not THAT much trouble.

but the fact that the GT-Rs gearbox is in the back and the GT-R being longer I think is going to mess up alot + the whole modding everything pretty much.

much quicker to just make a 370Z bodykit for the GT-R :roflpuke2:

toner123 02-09-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 934355)
but image the amounts of press you would get? :roflpuke2:

lets see, fitting the engine is probably not THAT much trouble.

but the fact that the GT-Rs gearbox is in the back and the GT-R being longer I think and the whole modding everything pretty much.

much quicker to just make a 370Z bodykit for the GT-R :roflpuke2:

Or just drop a TT in your z and your now pushing more HP lol

Vegitto-kun 02-09-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 934363)
Or just drop a TT in your z and your now pushing more HP lol

and still get your *** kicked. :stirthepot:

you know what has been bugging me? I hear all this TT and SC talk OMG 480HP AND MOAAAAR.

but never new 0-60 times.

Vegitto-kun 02-09-2011 02:40 PM

I need my numbers before putting so much money in a TT kit.

bullitt5897 02-09-2011 02:44 PM

ill give you my numbers...

0-60 in 0secs hahahahaha

Vegitto-kun 02-09-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 934454)
ill give you my numbers...

0-60 in 0secs hahahahaha


your car doesn't run shut up

my old 1.5 clio diesel can beat the white dragon at the moment

:stirthepot:

toner123 02-09-2011 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 934379)
and still get your *** kicked. :stirthepot:

you know what has been bugging me? I hear all this TT and SC talk OMG 480HP AND MOAAAAR.

but never new 0-60 times.

I know for a fact that a stock GTR can not beat me in the straight. I am not saying how I know because the forum does not support it so you can figure it out. People hold this GTR like it is a god. Realistically you can make the z faster for a lot less of a price tag. Don't get me wrong it is a nice car but you give it way to much credit compared to a moded Z

Vegitto-kun 02-09-2011 04:27 PM

you are saying that a TT370 = less than 3.5 to 60?

want

toner123 02-09-2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 934657)
you are saying that a TT370 = less than 3.5 to 60?

want

I am saying in a quarter mile my 370z>GTR

0-60 gtr is going to pull harder because of AWD

Vegitto-kun 02-09-2011 04:38 PM

next step of white dragon project

make it AWD :roflpuke2:

is that even possible.

how much power are you making anyway?

toner123 02-09-2011 04:40 PM

yes there is a company that does that. I have to look them up forgot there name. It is very expensive though and I wouldn't do it because the Z car is RWD by history

toner123 02-09-2011 04:42 PM

just seen the second part of your post. when i did my dyno i did 460 to the wheels and that was a conservative tune. When sam sent me my new tune it was noticably faster on the butt dyno. I will get a new one when spring comes to confirm the actual power but I am betting it is 500 or a little more

Jordo! 02-09-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 934687)
yes there is a company that does that. I have to look them up forgot there name. It is very expensive though and I wouldn't do it because the Z car is RWD by history

That said... why has no one just bolted up a AWD G37 trans?

THAT would be a sweeeet project!

Or (less challenging), just boost one of those :p

toner123 02-09-2011 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 934918)
That said... why has no one just bolted up a AWD G37 trans?

THAT would be a sweeeet project!

Or (less challenging), just boost one of those :p

Not a bad idea at all lol

saber 02-10-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 934141)
GTM - what software are you using to model the new components? what kind of stress considerations were considered in using plastic material on a critical component like this? (sorry, my engine knowhow / engineering is still pretty limited, so just trying to learn a few things)

Mike - i thought you were going to DD the dragon? wasn't that the whole point of the build? i mean, i've no problem with the STi, looks REALLY good. just wondering why the philosophy change?

(and can you buy me a new DD? kthx!)

^ last legitimate question in this thread, albeit somewhat unrelated haha. back on track please?

it'd be nice if a new thread could be opened for this. it's gotten out of hand. i started reading, then got lazy, and skipped almost the entire middle.

bullitt5897 02-10-2011 04:44 PM

Seriously guys take this else where. Also this was never said to be done in 1 month so get your facts straight. It was also said if things go well it would have been finished in august... That was said in May... Sam already had a block ready to go... We found out that the piston heads wouldn't match well with the VVEL top end so we had custom ones ordered and made to our specs which took 2-3 weeks... Seriously people need to chill out. Yes we were hopeful and optimistic to have it done around the august time frame but with SEMA and magazine shoots the car had to leave Sam's shop several times to go get work done at other shops... Not to mention the car was gone from GTM for 2 weeks for SEMA... Also Sam had other customer's cars needing to be built an I remember everyone whining about my car getting a fast track in front of other people which turned out to be completely bogus!!! Sooo if you have a complaint go cry to someone who cares because we don't... It's my car an my build and honestly I don't care what haters think...

bullitt5897 02-10-2011 04:46 PM

I got the Sti for customer appearance... I do sales along with running my company... If I drive up in the Z people are going to think they pay me too much... Simply the Z will still be daily driven I just needed another car for work. :tup:

Sibze 02-10-2011 04:57 PM

Bullitt - Sorry to bring that to your thread, you know I have been interested in this project since the start, I obviously hit a nerve.

All the best :tup:

Vegitto-kun 02-10-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 936030)
I got the Sti for customer appearance... I do sales along with running my company... If I drive up in the Z people are going to think they pay me too much... Simply the Z will still be daily driven I just needed another car for work. :tup:

lol arriving at work with a subaru.

I would think more BMW or audi :roflpuke2:

saber 02-10-2011 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 936049)
lol arriving at work with a subaru.

I would think more BMW or audi :roflpuke2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 936030)
I got the Sti for customer appearance... I do sales along with running my company... If I drive up in the Z people are going to think they pay me too much... Simply the Z will still be daily driven I just needed another car for work. :tup:

gotta agree, everybody i know who has bought a car for work related purposes usually goes for the more...uhm...business-like cars.

still, can't complain. i really like the impreza.

toner123 02-10-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by saber (Post 936132)
gotta agree, everybody i know who has bought a car for work related purposes usually goes for the more...uhm...business-like cars.

still, can't complain. i really like the impreza.

depends on what business i think you are doing. If your selling sport car parts or whatever scooby is more pratical then a luxary car

Vegitto-kun 02-10-2011 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saber (Post 936132)
gotta agree, everybody i know who has bought a car for work related purposes usually goes for the more...uhm...business-like cars.

still, can't complain. i really like the impreza.

I like the impreza too, the owners of a place I always hang out at have a WRX but a older model. subaru blue paint and golden rims and 350whp.

its a constant fight between me and the wife on who's car is better. :roflpuke2:

bullitt5897 02-11-2011 07:47 AM

I would have gotten a bmw but for me the insurance on this was dirt cheap and the price was below market value so I capitalized on it. BMW's are great but I would have gotten a Z4 or an M3 and then I am in the same boat again as the Z... I do work with a lot of people that range from white collared companies to blue collared manufacturing plants. Stroll in on a manufacturing plant in a BMW and they think your ballin out of control... Why give this guy your hard earned money. Stroll in with a WRX Wagon and you think practical person having to work hard for their money.... It all perception and creating the right perception with the customer right off the bat helps me gain new customers and keep the ones I already have. Plus when you are charging them over $120/hr for services. The subaru says my costs are higher and therefore my prices are justified. Stroll in with an M3 and they think your ripping them off...

This is just something I have learned over the years...

JB-370z 02-11-2011 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 936740)
I would have gotten a bmw but for me the insurance on this was dirt cheap and the price was below market value so I capitalized on it. BMW's are great but I would have gotten a Z4 or an M3 and then I am in the same boat again as the Z... I do work with a lot of people that range from white collared companies to blue collared manufacturing plants. Stroll in on a manufacturing plant in a BMW and they think your ballin out of control... Why give this guy your hard earned money. Stroll in with a WRX Wagon and you think practical person having to work hard for their money.... It all perception and creating the right perception with the customer right off the bat helps me gain new customers and keep the ones I already have. Plus when you are charging them over $120/hr for services. The subaru says my costs are higher and therefore my prices are justified. Stroll in with an M3 and they think your ripping them off...

This is just something I have learned over the years...


Really thats what all that says:icon17:???? Some of my Cisco route/switch services rang from 160-$240 an hour and Im pretty sure I could still sell a boat load of services regardless if I pull up in my Amuse Z or Acura RDX or 240sx, your too funny.:rolleyes: I believe its the person/attitude not the car, hey but thats just my thoughts.

Vegitto-kun 02-11-2011 08:28 AM

What are our customers going to think when they come in to buy a kitchen and see a GT-R and 370z? :roflpuke2:

bullitt5897 02-11-2011 01:21 PM

I am just saying... I get different responses from customers. I have one customer who rags me because I wont buy an American Car... Its all in the eye of the beholder... going to my corporate customers they really dont care... but I do a lot of business with blue collar companies and they do care what I drive...

bullitt5897 02-11-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 936781)
What are our customers going to think when they come in to buy a kitchen and see a GT-R and 370z? :roflpuke2:

they are probably thinking who is the customer with the GTR... :bowrofl:

XwChriswX 02-11-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 936740)
I would have gotten a bmw but for me the insurance on this was dirt cheap and the price was below market value so I capitalized on it. BMW's are great but I would have gotten a Z4 or an M3 and then I am in the same boat again as the Z... I do work with a lot of people that range from white collared companies to blue collared manufacturing plants. Stroll in on a manufacturing plant in a BMW and they think your ballin out of control... Why give this guy your hard earned money. Stroll in with a WRX Wagon and you think practical person having to work hard for their money.... It all perception and creating the right perception with the customer right off the bat helps me gain new customers and keep the ones I already have. Plus when you are charging them over $120/hr for services. The subaru says my costs are higher and therefore my prices are justified. Stroll in with an M3 and they think your ripping them off...

This is just something I have learned over the years...

Thats not even including the fact Subie = Surprise Buttsecks. :tup:


Awesome philosophy Bullitt, I completely agree with you on that.

Subie = Awesome yet PRACTICAL car.

BMW = Status car.

KaienZ34 02-11-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 937405)
Thats not even including the fact Sibze = Surprise Buttsecks. :tup:


Awesome philosophy Bullitt, I completely agree with you on that.

Sibze= Awesome Buttsecks that you can rely on :tup:

BMW = Status car.

:iagree:

Sibze 02-11-2011 04:42 PM

I would love to have that subie for a winter car. Perfect world for me = Z for the nice days and when I just want to enjoy the car, a nice STI for every other day!

toner123 02-11-2011 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 937946)
I would love to have that subie for a winter car. Perfect world for me = Z for the nice days and when I just want to enjoy the car, a nice STI for every other day!

:iagree: I would love to have a scooby as a daily driver but ending up buying a Xterra because of my 4 legged fur baby

Mike@GTM 02-11-2011 05:58 PM

Here is a picture of the PROTOTYPE manifold:


FYI, this is NOT a production piece. The production piece will be made of ALUMINUM. This plastic piece is for test fitting and hopefully bona fide testing as well.

toner123 02-11-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 938050)
Here is a picture of the PROTOTYPE manifold:


FYI, this is NOT a production piece. The production piece will be made of ALUMINUM. This plastic piece is for test fitting and hopefully bona fide testing as well.

Yes when are you putting it on the car lol. Your also going to dyno the car with this on just to start moving forward and see what it can handle right

EDIT: NVM I am a idiot, next time I will read the full post before i comment

KaienZ34 02-11-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 938050)
Here is a picture of the PROTOTYPE manifold:


FYI, this is NOT a production piece. The production piece will be made of ALUMINUM. This plastic piece is for test fitting and hopefully bona fide testing as well.


Damn that is nice...:yum:

1slow370 02-12-2011 02:53 AM

looks like it's coming along awesome Sam, and Bullit son you should have bought a camaro SS because in the blue collar world instead of getting the whole foreign, import scene, FF bulshiz you get the "he's one of us" from them. It says professional, goes to the bars, and a tad stupid... perfect camouflage.

Vegitto-kun 02-12-2011 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 937394)
they are probably thinking who is the customer with the GTR... :bowrofl:

True but then again, my dad takes almost every customer out for a drive when they buy a kitchen :roflpuke2:

bullitt5897 02-14-2011 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 938392)
looks like it's coming along awesome Sam, and Bullit son you should have bought a camaro SS because in the blue collar world instead of getting the whole foreign, import scene, FF bulshiz you get the "he's one of us" from them. It says professional, goes to the bars, and a tad stupid... perfect camouflage.

I will not buy a camaro until they fix the Quality issues... i.e. I shouldnt be able to put a dent in the dash just by pressing down on it with my hand! it should also have a nav option and real leather... just my thoughts on it.


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