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Kingbaby 01-27-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 911432)
If you were premium you would know why. Nothing secretive just something in the premium section assigning a project name for your car. Something fun and the name some people come up with gives us a laugh
Frank

ah! thank you!

toner123 01-27-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingbaby (Post 915106)
ah! thank you!

:tiphat:

xsnapshot 01-27-2011 06:21 PM

Just read through the important bits. Great work! Am I to understand that once the car is up and running, that this will be the test bed for real world VVEL tuning? And that up to this point it has been the brains reverse engineering it? Good luck, can't wait to see more progress!

toner123 01-27-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xsnapshot (Post 915232)
Just read through the important bits. Great work! Am I to understand that once the car is up and running, that this will be the test bed for real world VVEL tuning? And that up to this point it has been the brains reverse engineering it? Good luck, can't wait to see more progress!

For the most part yes. We will see what the gains of the VVEl have to offer. I know others in the past were scared to even tempt messing with it, or claimed they were doing it just to back out. I am sure this one will be promising since GTM has spent alot of time on this car and I refuse to believe it will fall short of all there goals. I just hope the VVEL can allow all of us some gains.
Frank

Jordo! 01-27-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 915241)
For the most part yes. We will see what the gains of the VVEl have to offer. I know others in the past were scared to even tempt messing with it, or claimed they were doing it just to back out. I am sure this one will be promising since GTM has spent alot of time on this car and I refuse to believe it will fall short of all there goals. I just hope the VVEL can allow all of us some gains.
Frank

How is progress on the controller coming along? Any idea when it will be made available? :yum:

toner123 01-27-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 915276)
How is progress on the controller coming along? Any idea when it will be made available? :yum:

That is more a question for sam, or possibly mike. I am just the parrot repeating what he heard lol. I hops soon.
Frank

bullitt5897 01-28-2011 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 915396)
That is more a question for sam, or possibly mike. I am just the parrot repeating what he heard lol. I hops soon.
Frank

I am with you frank haha Sam is keeping the controller on hush hush for the time being.

toner123 01-28-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 915892)
I am with you frank haha Sam is keeping the controller on hush hush for the time being.

And you know what I agree with his decision on that. I am sure he has a idea on what it would increase power wise but he doesn't want to be held to it probably. I know when Sam gets this to work he is not going to with hold since A. He is going to be the first to control the VVEL and that is awesome well deserved.B. He knows everyone is sitting on the edge of there panties waiting for this lol.
Frank

Jordo! 01-28-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 916132)
And you know what I agree with his decision on that. I am sure he has a idea on what it would increase power wise but he doesn't want to be held to it probably. I know when Sam gets this to work he is not going to with hold since A. He is going to be the first to control the VVEL and that is awesome well deserved.B. He knows everyone is sitting on the edge of there panties waiting for this lol.
Frank

My guess is that it accounts for, at bare minimum, another 5-9 whp at peak, which is the range of difference betwen a tuned Z with exhaust and a Nismo Z base on a dynojet.

And I bet there's room to grow from there too, especially with headers and freer flowing intakes :yum:

I think we'll start seeing a lot of NA Z's approaching the 320's once the VVEL can be tuned.

Vegitto-kun 01-30-2011 01:24 PM

lol got the price for a pearl white repaint.

13.000 bucks(9800 euro).

**** that **** il just get the amuse kit painted in platinum graphite.with that money I can do that and get TTed.

bullitt5897 01-31-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 918449)
lol got the price for a pearl white repaint.

13.000 bucks(9800 euro).

**** that **** il just get the amuse kit painted in platinum graphite.with that money I can do that and get TTed.

DAM!!!! thats an expensive paint job! I hope thats including all the door jam areas, engine bay and every other nook and cranny! $13,000 is crazy! I could see $9000 or even $7000 but $13000 is CRAZY!!!

Jeffblue 01-31-2011 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 919364)
DAM!!!! thats an expensive paint job! I hope thats including all the door jam areas, engine bay and every other nook and cranny! $13,000 is crazy! I could see $9000 or even $7000 but $13000 is CRAZY!!!

they use polar bear semen for the white pigment:p

weiboy718 01-31-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 919517)
they use polar bear semen for the white pigment:p

yuke! How do you extract it? And how many polar bear's semen do you need to paint the whole car?

98intrigue 01-31-2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 919522)
yuke! How do you extract it? And how many polar bear's semen do you need to paint the whole car?

I've heard something around 49 semen, but they only extract on average 1 semen per 10 sexual intercourses.

oreoleo 01-31-2011 07:58 PM

That paint job better come with a week's worth of hookers.

Jeffblue 01-31-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 919658)
I've heard something around 49 semen, but they only extract on average 1 semen per 10 sexual intercourses.

yea, and considering theres only like 3 polarbears left in the world, it makes that paint pretty hard to 'cum' by.

toner123 01-31-2011 09:15 PM

Just wanted to let you guys know this is kind of nasty
Frank

bullitt5897 02-01-2011 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 920605)
Just wanted to let you guys know this is kind of nasty
Frank

:iagree: lets try to keep on topic here.:tup:

JB1 02-01-2011 08:39 AM

Speaking of topic, did the car run yet? I have been looking at this thread since it was started, an interesting soap opera by itself I must say :rolleyes:

I also made sure to look up the car at SEMA, where it looked good. But the big questions still remains unanswered: Did the journey ever take you to that mythical figure of 1000hp? Anyway, good luck finishing your great project, I will keep following the thread for real car updates and the drama that comes with it :tup:

bullitt5897 02-01-2011 03:32 PM

Thanks for staying tuned JB1

Currently we are waiting on the final production intake before we start publishing any numbers or videos. Yes it would be cool to post up all the little details but if we did that you guys would be up my butt even more so about more details lol while I am sitting halfway across the country waiting for a part to be delivered so we can get everything finalized. Please be patient with us as it is our suppliers at this point that we are waiting on ;)

Mike

Vegitto-kun 02-01-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 919364)
DAM!!!! thats an expensive paint job! I hope thats including all the door jam areas, engine bay and every other nook and cranny! $13,000 is crazy! I could see $9000 or even $7000 but $13000 is CRAZY!!!

The price was for a COMPLETE recolor. so that means engine out every single bit of the interior.

I am now waiting for a price on just painting the visible parts since im planning to keep this car FOREVER.

also car is getting free dyno runs and computer work on it since I was the first 370 at his shop and he wants to support me. probably because he wants to use my car as a show car and take it around car shows like the paris carshow and germany :roflpuke2:.

I am planning to paint the rims what you reckon would be good?

I was thinking , pearl white amuse Z with black accents and matte black rims.

bullitt5897 02-01-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 921944)
The price was for a COMPLETE recolor. so that means engine out every single bit of the interior.

I am now waiting for a price on just painting the visible parts since im planning to keep this car FOREVER.

also car is getting free dyno runs and computer work on it since I was the first 370 at his shop and he wants to support me. probably because he wants to use my car as a show car and take it around car shows like the paris carshow and germany :roflpuke2:.

I am planning to paint the rims what you reckon would be good?

I was thinking , pearl white amuse Z with black accents and matte black rims.

Do matte black barrels with a frost white center!!! that would be SICK!!!

Vegitto-kun 02-01-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 921948)
Do matte black barrels with a frost white center!!! that would be SICK!!!

got any pics of a rim like that?

bullitt5897 02-01-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 921987)
got any pics of a rim like that?

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...itionwhite.jpg

Vegitto-kun 02-01-2011 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 922004)

mmm don't know maybe I should ask for a photoshop on the Z ones :p

toner123 02-01-2011 04:44 PM

It is official this thread has turned in to everything possible. I bet this thread alone covers every section on this forum lol.

JB-370z 02-01-2011 05:46 PM

I really like this Bullitt. Are these going on your car?

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...itionwhite.jpg

Vegitto-kun 02-01-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 922133)
I really like this Bullitt. Are these going on your car?

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...itionwhite.jpg

No those were rims he showed me as a example of what I should do with mine :roflpuke2:

JB-370z 02-01-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 922144)
No those were rims he showed me as a example of what I should do with mine :roflpuke2:

Well it beats talking about Polar bear jucies! :bowrofl:

Vegitto-kun 02-01-2011 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 922044)
It is official this thread has turned in to everything possible. I bet this thread alone covers every section on this forum lol.

not yet we still need to discuss his steering wheel :roflpuke2:

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 922153)
Well it beats talking about Polar bear jucies! :bowrofl:

white and creamy :ugh2:

JollyGoodChap 02-02-2011 01:24 PM

sub'd due to the amount of win in this thread!

Reality 02-03-2011 07:13 AM

Bumping for 1000hp and beyond...

98intrigue 02-03-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 922153)
Well it beats talking about Polar bear jucies! :bowrofl:

1 drop per fastener on those Stasse wheels.

Mike@GTM 02-03-2011 01:10 PM

Here's an update on our intake manifold. We've been working with a Rapid Prototyping company, and it's taking a little longer than we anticipated. Nevertheless, here are some images generated from the scanning software. One of the biggest advantages of this process is the ability to verify air flow through the intake and make any necessary changes to the design in CAD to eliminate any restrictions. The design has been finalized and is being "grown" as we speak. According to the company we are working with, we should have the prototype in hand next week. At that time, we will be test fitting the lower manifold in conjunction with the GT-R upper intake plenum and performing some initial dyno testing to verify the design.

Some of you familiar with rapid prototyping have suggested growing the part in titanium. Unfortunately, this part is physically too large to print using an iterative metal laser sintering process. Not to mention that even if their "printer" was large enough, it would take over a month just to print! Given that people want to see this car finished, we found the timeframe unacceptable. Therefore, we will be using a new type of high temperature plastic developed to be tested in harsh operating conditions (such as a forced induction manifold). Although we were skeptical of using plastic on this part of the engine, the material specifications convinced us that it is well within operating parameters.

We have several cars that we will be testing this manifold setup on: a stock 370z (to see what effect this manifold has on an NA application), a GTM supercharged 370z, and of course the White Dragon. Given that we can make adjustments to things like runner diameter and length in CAD, we can fine tune the performance to suit the particular application.

Also, it has been our experience that the factory HR/VHR upper intake plenum starts having issues with over 15psi of boost and 700whp (afterall it was designed for an NA application). Using our lower intake plenum in conjunction with the GT-R upper intake plenum will allow for more boost and more power.

Enough technobabble, here are some pics:


JB1 02-03-2011 01:20 PM

Why not have the part casted in Aluminum? I know a few suppliers in Europe that can do rapid casting. Lead time of about 3 or 4 weeks.

toner123 02-03-2011 01:22 PM

What is the price on this thing going to cost. Like I am sure by now you are aware of how much it is costing to make so that should allow you to give us a ballpark figurefor us.
Frank

christian370z 02-03-2011 02:34 PM

This update just made my day Mike, thank you very much for the update. I cannot wait to see how this manifold plays on a N/A VQ37, hoping for some solid gains!

bullitt5897 02-03-2011 03:02 PM

Another update:

I picked up a daily driver yesterday :tup: a flat black 2008 WRX STI 5DR with now 30K miles and bronze prodrive 19" wheels:

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...7/IMG_1372.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...7/IMG_1373.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...7/IMG_1374.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...7/IMG_1375.jpg

Vegitto-kun 02-03-2011 03:04 PM

you have too much money man.

this build + that car.

wishihadnav 02-03-2011 03:20 PM

nice mike!..i see a rotated 35r in your future..haha


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