Superchargers for the 370Z?

Brazilbro · 03-15-2009, 11:39 PM

500-600whp would be nice

Crash · 03-16-2009, 02:39 PM

I don't think you're going to see 600WHP on the stock block at all (at least not for more than a few thousand miles if you're lucky). MAYBE 500WHP, and that'd be pushing it.

Jimmydean · 03-20-2009, 09:47 PM

Kyle:
Have you done any testing on the stock 370 block to see what it can handle boost wise?

Josh@STILLEN · 03-20-2009, 10:00 PM

R&D is in full swing.. we don't typically talk about anything until we have everything completely dialed in.. it's a good thing Kyle has the right last name..

We'll have more details as soon as we can.. and I don't think you guys will be disappointed..

stinhambo · 03-20-2009, 10:21 PM

I'm guessing 450hp.

Sorry for the noob question but what is the advantage of supercharging over turbocharging?

Skorch · 03-21-2009, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinhambo

I'm guessing 450hp.

Sorry for the noob question but what is the advantage of supercharging over turbocharging?

Instant power vs. waiting for the turbo to spool. Also (arguably) reliability, ease of install, maintenance. Turbos are great but for my specific goals of about 350-400 whp a supercharger will be just the ticket.

JoeyD · 03-23-2009, 10:34 AM

^ I wouldn't say "arguably". In my experience, both personal and second hand, turbo systems will require almost constant attention. You have to watch boost, temps, AFR's not to mention mechanical failures, bolts working loose, gasket leaks, manifold cracks, and coked bearings. Turbo's are leaps and bounds better than they were 15 years ago; however, there are still many more parts and variables involved in a turbo setup than a typical supercharged setup. I loved my turbo IS300 and I loved my Garrett Upgraded MazdaSpeed 6 but for this car I wan to give supercharging a shot. The obvious benefits of low end torque, ease of installation, system simplicity, and a warranty that Stillen hopes to offer make it an easy choice.

Skorch · 03-23-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD

^ I wouldn't say "arguably". In my experience, both personal and second hand, turbo systems will require almost constant attention. You have to watch boost, temps, AFR's not to mention mechanical failures, bolts working loose, gasket leaks, manifold cracks, and coked bearings. Turbo's are leaps and bounds better than they were 15 years ago; however, there are still many more parts and variables involved in a turbo setup than a typical supercharged setup. I loved my turbo IS300 and I loved my Garrett Upgraded MazdaSpeed 6 but for this car I wan to give supercharging a shot. The obvious benefits of low end torque, ease of installation, system simplicity, and a warranty that Stillen hopes to offer make it an easy choice.

I had to throw in "arguably" just in case someone got all defensive and butthurt about it.

The other thing I forgot to mention is cost. A well put together turbo system will run you AT LEAST $10k, considerably more perhaps. With a supercharger I expect to have a kit available for $6-7k. Hopefully my figures won't be too far off.

Crash · 03-24-2009, 10:03 PM

I was shocked nobody made manifold style supercharger kits of the 300zx (z32). I know that the car was designed for TT, but 5-6PSI boost from a super would have been perfect for the N/A cars!

Kyle@STILLEN · 03-25-2009, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash

I was shocked nobody made manifold style supercharger kits of the 300zx (z32). I know that the car was designed for TT, but 5-6PSI boost from a super would have been perfect for the N/A cars!

It was done but I don't think it was a kit and I don't know very much about it. I just know that I saw a video of one on youtube...Famous last line right?

Minicobra1 · 04-13-2009, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

Oh yea...We're in development with our forced induction kit and it's coming along very nicely. Almost all of the hard parts are mounted.

I have no idea on pricing or an ETA though.

Kyle,

Any new updates on the supercharger??? Also, you need to get over to this thread:
Stillen HFC vs. BERK HFC
Need some input about your HFC's

Kyle@STILLEN · 04-14-2009, 11:57 AM

No more info on the STILLEN forced induction solution yet my friend! It will take a few more months before we're ready to release any serious information.

Thanks for the heads up on the other thread, I'll head over there now.

apexpred. · 04-21-2009, 02:09 AM

Could you get the extra flow to take advantage of the larger displacement super charger by doing head work and getting a set of cams.

Also I haven't seen any one talk about engine management yet at all. I think being able to control the cam system will make alot of of power and torque on supercharged and turbo charged motors.

shabarivas · 04-21-2009, 01:03 PM

Moar info stillen... you are killing me

hahahah

tvfreakazoid · 04-21-2009, 08:19 PM

What is DTB?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slidefox

It's a little more difficult to S/C the 370Z since it is DTB. There was word of a twin centrifigual S/C setup from Vortech for the HR motor, but I haven't seen anything yet. I'm still trying to figure out how Stillen would make a roots style work with the DTBs. Maybe they can chime in. It's all going to come down to how you route the piping. If you can get the brackets to work on the motor; then you should be able to get the piping routed.

<--- Prefers TT over S/C

03-16-2009, 02:39 PM	#32 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	I don't think you're going to see 600WHP on the stock block at all (at least not for more than a few thousand miles if you're lucky). MAYBE 500WHP, and that'd be pushing it. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

03-23-2009, 10:34 AM	#37 (permalink)
JoeyD Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Raeford, NC Posts: 305 Drives: 09 NISMO 370Z Rep Power: 186	^ I wouldn't say "arguably". In my experience, both personal and second hand, turbo systems will require almost constant attention. You have to watch boost, temps, AFR's not to mention mechanical failures, bolts working loose, gasket leaks, manifold cracks, and coked bearings. Turbo's are leaps and bounds better than they were 15 years ago; however, there are still many more parts and variables involved in a turbo setup than a typical supercharged setup. I loved my turbo IS300 and I loved my Garrett Upgraded MazdaSpeed 6 but for this car I wan to give supercharging a shot. The obvious benefits of low end torque, ease of installation, system simplicity, and a warranty that Stillen hopes to offer make it an easy choice. __________________ When was the last time you did 230MPH in something with 4 seats?

03-24-2009, 10:03 PM	#39 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	I was shocked nobody made manifold style supercharger kits of the 300zx (z32). I know that the car was designed for TT, but 5-6PSI boost from a super would have been perfect for the N/A cars! __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

03-15-2009, 11:39 PM	#31 (permalink)
Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 848	500-600whp would be nice

03-20-2009, 09:47 PM	#33 (permalink)
Jimmydean Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 12 Drives: 05 Subaru STI Rep Power: 16	Kyle: Have you done any testing on the stock 370 block to see what it can handle boost wise?

03-20-2009, 10:00 PM	#34 (permalink)
Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 533	R&D is in full swing.. we don't typically talk about anything until we have everything completely dialed in.. it's a good thing Kyle has the right last name.. We'll have more details as soon as we can.. and I don't think you guys will be disappointed..

03-20-2009, 10:21 PM	#35 (permalink)
stinhambo Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cairns, Australia Posts: 45 Drives: Kia Rio :) Rep Power: 16	I'm guessing 450hp. Sorry for the noob question but what is the advantage of supercharging over turbocharging?

04-14-2009, 11:57 AM	#42 (permalink)
Kyle@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 626 Drives: Toyota Tundra Rep Power: 306	No more info on the STILLEN forced induction solution yet my friend! It will take a few more months before we're ready to release any serious information. Thanks for the heads up on the other thread, I'll head over there now.

04-21-2009, 02:09 AM	#43 (permalink)
apexpred. Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: kansas city Posts: 6 Drives: getting a 370z Rep Power: 16	Could you get the extra flow to take advantage of the larger displacement super charger by doing head work and getting a set of cams. Also I haven't seen any one talk about engine management yet at all. I think being able to control the cam system will make alot of of power and torque on supercharged and turbo charged motors.

04-21-2009, 01:03 PM	#44 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	Moar info stillen... you are killing me hahahah