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Old 04-17-2010, 12:00 PM   #181 (permalink)
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And here is what get me, if Sharif had installed a GTM kit before and if it really does have fitment issues, which I dont know if there is or not, he should have told the customer that and that they mayhave to fab some stuff themselves to make it fit and include that in the price. Again once a shop takes acontrol of a car its their responsibility to install it properly and at the cost they told the customer, and if anything is broken in the process then new parts should be put on, not repaired or used parts. If they cant install the kit perfectly without smashing or altering things then they should not accept the job. FP tried to arrest Juan for taking his car,so that shows that they know the car is in their control and that means they are responsible for the car and should make sure its perfect and if not compensate the customer if things are Fd up.

OP get the full cost of everything but the price of the kit back from FP to include what it cost you to get it fixed by GTM and pain an dsuffering and time for not having your car.

And by the way, how is that GTM did fix all the things FP says are not fitting? What did they do to make things that FP says didnt fit, fit? Did they fab new parts or smash things to make them fit? And Sharif why didnt you just call GTM to ask how they made said part fit if you couldnt figure it out?
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seriously, the only thing stillen can be accused of is overpricing their parts and maybe a few customer service reps that are retarded.

OP i hope everything works out for you dude. GL.

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seriously, the only thing stillen can be accused of is overpricing their parts and maybe a few customer service reps that are retarded.

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I'am going to throw my 2 cent in since I have not been on here in a few years. After selling my 04 white 350z to a friend with a new rebuilt motor Mr Shairif the smooth talker he is completley screwed these people after they somehow broke the turbo charged them 15k for a new short block, the a/f was not even calibrated and it looked like a 2 year old worked on the car. Since the car has been sitting with problems with sharif not wanting to make it right. These people paid to have the car picked up in Gulf Shores Alabama and dropped off *** well. The delivery man somehow broke the stillen front bumper and sharif said they would cover it but never did. There were alot of other issues as well but to say the least Sharif really screwed these people since they knew nothing about forced induction cars.... I'm knew it was only a matter on time before his @ss would be caught screwing people over like he has in the past and I'm sure there are more but would rather not take the time togo through all of the trouble and bs of being flamed on here since most think he is a saint. Sharif you know who I am and maybe a few others that remember me back in the day... I hope you go back to selling used cars because either way it's all about screwing people to you my little bald friend.....
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guys, how bout thinking in the OP's shoes for once?
dont you think you'll be pissed off? i know some of you would have driven another 500 miles to get physical with the guy for all i know

Dont you think you would want to let people know about your experience with a vendor? Just because you might have had a good experience with them doesnt mean you get to bash on anyone that has something negative to say about them.

and regarding the timing of the post, why the F*ck would that matter?
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Wow... reminds me of a dispute I had with a vendor that blew up my engine... I didn't air it publicly due to a legal claim, but I really wanted to! In the time since, I've moved on and pretty much forgiven them - **** happens! And I'm actually glad I didn't make a big deal about it

Looking at the "damages" the OP lists - a fourth of them were things that didn't happen fast enough but eventually got resolved... half of them are nit-picks that would probably have been overlooked by the OP if there weren't so many... yes, I realize it is a long list but crap the car was being worked on in a busy shop for 7 months... and that leaves a couple real mistakes... from what I can tell, Forged has offered / is offering to step up. Does the OP deserve to be PO'd - you're damn right. But it's time to move on.

My experience with GTM is that they are emotional and vindictive... sorry Sam, but it's pretty evident from your exchanges with other vendors. And passing one of your dealers an over-billed invoice to "fix" their work is unprofessional. You could have helped the OP work this out without the ambulance chasing. I bet your other dealers are watching this carefully.

I'm sure Forged has learned an important lesson and as has been said by others, they will be stronger b/c of it. I'm going to continue working with them.
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Wow... reminds me of a dispute I had with a vendor that blew up my engine... I didn't air it publicly due to a legal claim, but I really wanted to! In the time since, I've moved on and pretty much forgiven them - **** happens! And I'm actually glad I didn't make a big deal about it

Looking at the "damages" the OP lists - a fourth of them were things that didn't happen fast enough but eventually got resolved... half of them are nit-picks that would probably have been overlooked by the OP if there weren't so many... yes, I realize it is a long list but crap the car was being worked on in a busy shop for 7 months... and that leaves a couple real mistakes... from what I can tell, Forged has offered / is offering to step up. Does the OP deserve to be PO'd - you're damn right. But it's time to move on.

My experience with GTM is that they are emotional and vindictive... sorry Sam, but it's pretty evident from your exchanges with other vendors. And passing one of your dealers an over-billed invoice to "fix" their work is unprofessional. You could have helped the OP work this out without the ambulance chasing. I bet your other dealers are watching this carefully.

I'm sure Forged has learned an important lesson and as has been said by others, they will be stronger b/c of it. I'm going to continue working with them.
What things were resolved??????
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Wow... reminds me of a dispute I had with a vendor that blew up my engine... I didn't air it publicly due to a legal claim, but I really wanted to! In the time since, I've moved on and pretty much forgiven them - **** happens! And I'm actually glad I didn't make a big deal about it

Looking at the "damages" the OP lists - a fourth of them were things that didn't happen fast enough but eventually got resolved... half of them are nit-picks that would probably have been overlooked by the OP if there weren't so many... yes, I realize it is a long list but crap the car was being worked on in a busy shop for 7 months... and that leaves a couple real mistakes... from what I can tell, Forged has offered / is offering to step up. Does the OP deserve to be PO'd - you're damn right. But it's time to move on.

My experience with GTM is that they are emotional and vindictive... sorry Sam, but it's pretty evident from your exchanges with other vendors. And passing one of your dealers an over-billed invoice to "fix" their work is unprofessional. You could have helped the OP work this out without the ambulance chasing. I bet your other dealers are watching this carefully.

I'm sure Forged has learned an important lesson and as has been said by others, they will be stronger b/c of it. I'm going to continue working with them.
Yeah but at what cost??? Common dude, its ok to take sides based on personal opinions but lets not try to act like nothing happened here. Why would op want the shop that destroyed his car and thought it was fine to "fix" it??? Do you think they would be capable of fixing it at this point, or would they do half @ss job on it like they did everything else trying to save a buck. Sam spared no expense to make the car “right” the way it was supposed to be from the get-go! Its in Sam’s best interest to help out the consumer since we are the ones that drive this market not the dealers of other companies products.
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Its also funny how all the guys that did the bad installs no longer work, Hell they shouldnt have been working to begin with. When you hire someone new you as the owner or manager must check their work on a consistant basis to see their level of work. The main issue at FP is not really the workers, its the guy who is suppose to make sure all is ok, and he didnt do that so that shows me the level of his expertise or in this case non expertise as a manager or owner. As a manager QC is of the upmost importance, workers will do what they can to get things done quickly and as easy as possible. Sharif might know how to do the mechanics of an install but he doesnt know squat about being in charge and managing a shop. I think they are going to ask the government for a bailout so they can give bonuses to all the guys that Fd things up and then the owner will get a $10 million bonus too.
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Another new poster here with no agenda other than to blast a vendor. I sense a pattern and it sucks, please close this pathetic thread.

I think we should close this bad boy. I dont think GTM or FP has anything else to say and think their input along with OP's are the only ones that matter at this point.
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I kind of like hearing the stories. Some of them could be a little more factual than inflammatory however. Like Joe Friday used to say, just the facts ...
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