STILLEN 370Z Supercharger System - Announcement!!!

RCZ · 08-07-2010, 08:41 PM

Hmm, starting to wonder if this is actually Stillen's fault or if Stillen is covering up for Uprev and not throwing them under the bus..I'm sorry guys, but making a tune for this kit should not be a difficult task, specially so when you've been tuning cars forever like Stillen has. I highly highly doubt this is a problem due to the incompetency of Stillen Engineers. Do you all think they just forgot how to tune cars all of the sudden?

MMC Racing · 08-08-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Hmm, starting to wonder if this is actually Stillen's fault or if Stillen is covering up for Uprev and not throwing them under the bus..I'm sorry guys, but making a tune for this kit should not be a difficult task, specially so when you've been tuning cars forever like Stillen has. I highly highly doubt this is a problem due to the incompetency of Stillen Engineers. Do you all think they just forgot how to tune cars all of the sudden?

If my new Sync Navigation fails in my new Raptor - do I call up and blame Microsoft or take it to my Ford dealer?

Stillen designed and sells this kit. They SHOULD HAVE done enough testing on different vehicles to catch any tuning related problems. This is 100% on Stillen - don't even try to place the blame with someone else.

RCZ · 08-10-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

If my new Sync Navigation fails in my new Raptor - do I call up and blame Microsoft or take it to my Ford dealer?

Stillen designed and sells this kit. They SHOULD HAVE done enough testing on different vehicles to catch any tuning related problems. This is 100% on Stillen - don't even try to place the blame with someone else.

Have you seen the other thread with the Stillen kit that doesn't work because uprev software is having issues with a certain ROM? That's Stillen's fault too?

I don't disagree that the software is part of the kit and therefore Stillen is at fault as it is being sold by them. I'm not trying to point any fingers, I'm trying to figure out, like everyone else, why this is going on.

I don't think Stillen is unable to tune for this kit, I think the variations from situation to situation are causing problems. (ie. Different ROMS) That's why everyone that is custom tuned has no issues...

There are definitely bugs to be ironed out and I'm glad Stillen has the resources to do so..

LateralG'z · 08-10-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Have you seen the other thread with the Stillen kit that doesn't work because uprev software is having issues with a certain ROM? That's Stillen's fault too?

I don't disagree that the software is part of the kit and therefore Stillen is at fault as it is being sold by them. I'm not trying to point any fingers, I'm trying to figure out, like everyone else, why this is going on.

I don't think Stillen is unable to tune for this kit, I think the variations from situation to situation are causing problems. (ie. Different ROMS) That's why everyone that is custom tuned has no issues...

There are definitely bugs to be ironed out and I'm glad Stillen has the resources to do so..

Careful there on that statement, mine is a custom tune and my ROM is all jacked up. But I can agree that uprev is having issues

tomnavone · 08-10-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Have you seen the other thread with the Stillen kit that doesn't work because uprev software is having issues with a certain ROM? That's Stillen's fault too?

I don't disagree that the software is part of the kit and therefore Stillen is at fault as it is being sold by them. I'm not trying to point any fingers, I'm trying to figure out, like everyone else, why this is going on.

I don't think Stillen is unable to tune for this kit, I think the variations from situation to situation are causing problems. (ie. Different ROMS) That's why everyone that is custom tuned has no issues...

There are definitely bugs to be ironed out and I'm glad Stillen has the resources to do so..

There doesnt seem to be anyone on this forum or the g35/37 forum that has custom tuned the kit using the uprev software and gotten the same results that u have. Tell us the secret to tune it

Are u using the old pully or the new one? If you are using the new pully have u had a chance to dyno it?

Phimosis · 08-11-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Have you seen the other thread with the Stillen kit that doesn't work because uprev software is having issues with a certain ROM? That's Stillen's fault too?

I don't disagree that the software is part of the kit and therefore Stillen is at fault as it is being sold by them. I'm not trying to point any fingers, I'm trying to figure out, like everyone else, why this is going on.

I don't think Stillen is unable to tune for this kit, I think the variations from situation to situation are causing problems. (ie. Different ROMS) That's why everyone that is custom tuned has no issues...

There are definitely bugs to be ironed out and I'm glad Stillen has the resources to do so..

There are bugs to be ironed out, but I don't think it's the variability of the ROM's. My car was tuned by Stillen on Stillen's dyno and they had my car for 3 weeks. If my rom was a problem with a canned tune, they should have been able to overcome that.

My car is now in it's 3rd week at Stillen for the seoncd round of tuning (6 weeks total). I'll update you guys when I get it back.

:-)

tomnavone · 08-11-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis

There are bugs to be ironed out, but I don't think it's the variability of the ROM's. My car was tuned by Stillen on Stillen's dyno and they had my car for 3 weeks. If my rom was a problem with a canned tune, they should have been able to overcome that.

My car is now in it's 3rd week at Stillen for the seoncd round of tuning (6 weeks total). I'll update you guys when I get it back.

:-)

Good luck i hope they figure your car out. I called stillen yesterday and they said they will work on my tune after they figure out yours. Yay second in line

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LateralG'z · 08-11-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis

There are bugs to be ironed out, but I don't think it's the variability of the ROM's. My car was tuned by Stillen on Stillen's dyno and they had my car for 3 weeks. If my rom was a problem with a canned tune, they should have been able to overcome that.

My car is now in it's 3rd week at Stillen for the seoncd round of tuning (6 weeks total). I'll update you guys when I get it back.

:-)

I have learned that there were differences in ROM's in the 350Z years so there could be ROM variances with the 370's. It could still be a possibility. That is kind of a long time for a company to tune the car, or is that just me?

g37mobbin · 08-12-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis

There are bugs to be ironed out, but I don't think it's the variability of the ROM's. My car was tuned by Stillen on Stillen's dyno and they had my car for 3 weeks. If my rom was a problem with a canned tune, they should have been able to overcome that.

My car is now in it's 3rd week at Stillen for the seoncd round of tuning (6 weeks total). I'll update you guys when I get it back.

:-)

my car is been there since June 19th and counting...

LateralG'z · 08-08-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Hmm, starting to wonder if this is actually Stillen's fault or if Stillen is covering up for Uprev and not throwing them under the bus..I'm sorry guys, but making a tune for this kit should not be a difficult task, specially so when you've been tuning cars forever like Stillen has. I highly highly doubt this is a problem due to the incompetency of Stillen Engineers. Do you all think they just forgot how to tune cars all of the sudden?

I am almost 100% sure it is Uprev with Stillens canned tune which is why they are there, I know Uprev is all F*** up on my ECU and I am not using the canned tune.

xbigb4ller69z · 08-07-2010, 09:33 PM

Why wouldnt you do a custom tune specifically for your car? It seems that all successful projects have been done that way. Im ordering the kit without the tune so that Jack at HPlogic can tune ir right. Thats the same thing RCZ did...

tomnavone · 08-07-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xbigb4ller69z

Why wouldnt you do a custom tune specifically for your car? It seems that all successful projects have been done that way. Im ordering the kit without the tune so that Jack at HPlogic can tune ir right. Thats the same thing RCZ did...

no warranty if someone besides stillen tunes your car and it blows up your **** out of luck. i believe its a 3 year 36,000 warranty. I beleive RCZ is the only one on this forum that has successfully tuned his car from an independant party. RCZ has the golden kit its the only one that works. Im curious if RCZ changed out the old pully for the new pully and gotten the same dyno results with the new pully that they are shipping with the kits now

Red370 · 08-10-2010, 03:31 PM

kinda wondering why Stillen didnt use a Cobb AP to tune the kit... AAM used one for their TT kit and from what I can tell, has turned out pretty damn good.

theDreamer · 08-10-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

kinda wondering why Stillen didnt use a Cobb AP to tune the kit... AAM used one for their TT kit and from what I can tell, has turned out pretty damn good.

Nothing against Cobb but for the 350z Uprev > Cobb, and since Cobb seems to be less interested in the 370z support again it will be Uprev > Cobb.
It takes time to get tuning right and this car is still fairly new.

Red370 · 08-10-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Nothing against Cobb but for the 350z Uprev > Cobb, and since Cobb seems to be less interested in the 370z support again it will be Uprev > Cobb.
It takes time to get tuning right and this car is still fairly new.

that may be so, but it appears Uprev might have screwed the pooch on this one, the AP hasnt had any problems yet with its tuning ability.

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xbigb4ller69z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 261 Drives: 2010 370z 40th ANNIV Rep Power: 16	Why wouldnt you do a custom tune specifically for your car? It seems that all successful projects have been done that way. Im ordering the kit without the tune so that Jack at HPlogic can tune ir right. Thats the same thing RCZ did... __________________ Eibach pro kit/ Stillen sway bars / SPC rear camber arms / F.I. 12" CBE / GTM TT / Southbend clutch stg 3 / ProSport Gauges/ ZSpeed Performance Heavy Duty Concentric Slave Cylinder / Twin Oil Coolers. / Tuned by HP Logic

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Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 297	kinda wondering why Stillen didnt use a Cobb AP to tune the kit... AAM used one for their TT kit and from what I can tell, has turned out pretty damn good. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

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08-07-2010, 08:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Hmm, starting to wonder if this is actually Stillen's fault or if Stillen is covering up for Uprev and not throwing them under the bus..I'm sorry guys, but making a tune for this kit should not be a difficult task, specially so when you've been tuning cars forever like Stillen has. I highly highly doubt this is a problem due to the incompetency of Stillen Engineers. Do you all think they just forgot how to tune cars all of the sudden?