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phares_b 11-20-2010 06:12 AM

Thanks for the input. Considering I only average 22 or 23 now that sounds pretty good. I may have hit 25 once or twice on trips.

RCZ 11-25-2010 04:26 PM

Sometimes I think its so ironic that people care about mpg in the forced induction section of a sportscar modification forum.

The short answer is that it will not be better, it will be worst, a lot worst. If you want better mileage get a prius.

Back to snuffing baby foxes and melting the icecaps please.

puckshaw 11-25-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 821728)
Sometimes I think its so ironic that people care about mpg in the forced induction section of a sportscar modification forum.

The short answer is that it will not be better, it will be worst, a lot worst. If you want better mileage get a prius.

Back to snuffing baby foxes and melting the icecaps please.

Yeah I really don't understand it either. MPG is the last thing on my mind when I'm buying/modding a sports car.

christian370z 11-25-2010 06:02 PM

I don't think that some concern with fuel mileage is unwarranted; I doubt people are looking for it to improve but if it stayed the same as stock or maybe a bit less, that would be an additional bit of icing on the cake.

I wonder if the TT guys are experiencing better gas mileage?

JB-370z 11-25-2010 07:50 PM

RCZ: I thought we were going to see BOV's and boost controllers?!?!? I would really really like to see this! If it works I might buy a FX suv and do the same ;)

RCZ 11-26-2010 07:21 AM

See, I can't tell if you are being condescending or not. I would assume you are since you made sure I knew the FX was an suv and there's a wink at the end. I know a lot gets lost on the internet though, so I'm gonna just assume you're not being a jackhole and you're just being clever.

Been thinking about it, its theoretically possible! Considering I'm running at less than half steam of what the unit can do, one could roughly estimate that I should see 9 psi of boost from 3500rpm to redline. Obviously there's no way of knowing without trying it. Also, only one boost controller would be involved and at least 15 bov's though, can't have enough BOV's.

It was done on a SC'd mustang before, its on the web somewhere if you look it up. The result was instant torque and a flat power curve.

shumby 11-26-2010 07:23 AM

man i really want to SC the FX but need to get this trans thing sorted out first.

JB-370z 11-26-2010 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 822337)
See, I can't tell if you are being condescending or not. I would assume you are since you made sure I knew the FX was an suv and there's a wink at the end. I know a lot gets lost on the internet though, so I'm gonna just assume you're not being a jackhole and you're just being clever.

Been thinking about it, its theoretically possible! Considering I'm running at less than half steam of what the unit can do, one could roughly estimate that I should see 9 psi of boost from 3500rpm to redline. Obviously there's no way of knowing without trying it. Also, only one boost controller would be involved and at least 15 bov's though, can't have enough BOV's.

It was done on a SC'd mustang before, its on the web somewhere if you look it up. The result was instant torque and a flat power curve.

Hahaha you crack me up with this BS! I am not out to get you RCZ and I am not going to keep repeating that!

Now, as for the FX, there is a guy here in Houston that has a turboed FX with a BBK Etc. I love the new look of the FX and I know its only a matter of time until they do away with the VQ35 and add the VQ37. As of now I know Protech makes a supercharger for the FX. I’m sure one of the SC makers with make one for the FX37 when it comes out. I currently have a turbocharged SUV but a Supercharged SUV would be nice too if it had a VQ37 in it! So am I being condescending...NO... And you are right it is hard to judge peoples demeanor only by the words and icons they choose to use in a post. And I think the FX37 paired with a supercharger could be a good contender for a Porsche Cayenne! The Cayenne has 500hp to the crank, and other companies are getting the automatic tranny beefed up soon so I think that the price of a supercharger with tranny upgrades would put me right in the golden zone vs. going turbo. I think there is an AWD version of the FX too! A supercharger on the FX would make it a blast to dive and if someone found a way to add BOV’s would make it even better ;)

shumby 11-26-2010 09:24 AM

FYI the FX 37 is already out in the UK. Now to get to the point i want a SC on my FX%)S. way better then SC on FX37.

And don't forget it is me that is out to get RCZ. the stillen nut swinger

RCZ 11-26-2010 09:49 AM

haha, I just can't keep track of who hates me and who doesn't anymore, my apologies.

With regards to the FX, meh I don't really get that either. I wouldn't spend money making my truck faster. Whats the point lol? Its supposed to be the chill-out grocery getter. I'd rather just get a cayanne S or an X5 and call it a day.

Shumby, you sly fox you.

shumby 11-26-2010 09:52 AM

X5 boooo your tast in BMW's is as bad as your taste in SC's. The X6 would be the way to go.

JB-370z 11-26-2010 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 822461)
haha, I just can't keep track of who hates me and who doesn't anymore, my apologies.

With regards to the FX, meh I don't really get that either. I wouldn't spend money making my truck faster. Whats the point lol? Its supposed to be the chill-out grocery getter. I'd rather just get a cayanne S or an X5 and call it a day.

Shumby, you sly fox you.

The Cayanne S is 60-70k though. I love to mod all my rides and plus going to get groceries while hitting boost is a blast :happydance::driving: Not a huge BMW fan :( Maybe a Cayanne S if someone makes a turbo or what not for it but then I would be over budget! ALl my rides got boost!

Edit: would not suprise me if Stillen did somthing for the FX!

shumby 11-26-2010 11:20 AM

Ya and if it is as good as the SC for the G35 and now G37 we all know we need to stear well clear of it.

christian370z 11-26-2010 11:23 AM

If you ever supercharger the new FX, those brakes need some serious beefing up after all the tests showing a huge amount of fade after a few panic stops (even after Infiniti's fix). Other than that, I rode in one and it felt like the chassis far outclassed the powertrain.

shumby 11-26-2010 11:31 AM

35 or 50?

JB-370z 11-26-2010 11:52 AM

Stoptech makes a bbk for the FX ;)

RCZ 11-26-2010 12:22 PM

Honestly out of all the SUV's I prefer the X5. We used to have one a few years ago. The 4.4L and it was an amazing car. I would buy one in an instant. They do offer a X5 M JB, thats a twin turbo 4.8l V8. A little fiddling with the ecu and you are looking at 600hp.

Robert_K 11-26-2010 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 822616)
Stoptech makes a bbk for the FX ;)

Stop picking on these people! :hello: :stirthepot:

shumby 11-26-2010 01:09 PM

Stillen are you atleast workign on the issue of some of your kits and the pre detioation? Are you looking at tunes? hardware? any chance of an update?

JB-370z 11-26-2010 01:53 PM

detioation is not good. Sounds like people should buy a HKS AFK2 when they buy this kit so they can keep on the look out for knock!

JB-370z 11-26-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 822337)
See, I can't tell if you are being condescending or not. I would assume you are since you made sure I knew the FX was an suv and there's a wink at the end. I know a lot gets lost on the internet though, so I'm gonna just assume you're not being a jackhole and you're just being clever.

Been thinking about it, its theoretically possible! Considering I'm running at less than half steam of what the unit can do, one could roughly estimate that I should see 9 psi of boost from 3500rpm to redline. Obviously there's no way of knowing without trying it. Also, only one boost controller would be involved and at least 15 bov's though, can't have enough BOV's.

It was done on a SC'd mustang before, its on the web somewhere if you look it up. The result was instant torque and a flat power curve.

I just re-read that....15 BOV's, wow thats allot of BOV's. Thats at least 3k in just BOV's! Where will you fit 15 BOV's???

shumby 11-26-2010 02:08 PM

I wish there was a way to get the A:F to display on the camp 2. factory sensors are wideband and the ECU reads it . So why can i not display it?

Robert_K 11-26-2010 02:20 PM

I'd like to meet the one that said detonation is good. LOL

toner123 11-26-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 822724)
I wish there was a way to get the A:F to display on the camp 2. factory sensors are wideband and the ECU reads it . So why can i not display it?

they wont read it because HKS wants you to spend more money and buy the knock amp.
Frank

weiboy718 11-26-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_K (Post 822727)
I'd like to meet the one that said detonation is good. LOL

...........:stirthepot:

Zsteve 11-26-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_K (Post 822727)
I'd like to meet the one that said detonation is good. LOL

Detonation is good, and we should detonation N Korea right now.

Staples 11-26-2010 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 822730)
they wont read it because HKS wants you to spend more money and buy the knock amp.
Frank

$800 for a knock amp is absolutely outrageous. I can't even listen to music while I'm logging data!

toner123 11-26-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Staples (Post 822844)
$800 for a knock amp is absolutely outrageous. I can't even listen to music while I'm logging data!

I agree and thats why i will never own it lol
Frank

RCZ 11-26-2010 05:02 PM

Who said engine det is normal?? I guess I didnt catch why this joke is going around.

toner123 11-26-2010 05:13 PM

...........:stirthepot:

RCZ 11-26-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 822886)
...........:stirthepot:

Sam is stirring the pot?

Sadly, I'd rather talk about fast SUV's....

toner123 11-26-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 823011)
Sam is stirring the pot?

Sadly, I'd rather talk about fast SUV's....

Sam isn't stirring anything. LOL then talk about fast SUVs

I want to put a super charger on my xterra not much gain though
Frank

JB-370z 11-26-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_K (Post 822727)
I'd like to meet the one that said detonation is good. LOL

Hahahaha Rob I dont want to be the one to answer this one!

Quote:

Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 823067)
Sam isn't stirring anything. LOL then talk about fast SUVs

I want to put a super charger on my xterra not much gain though
Frank

There ya go! Nothing wrong with a man wanting to hit boost, no matter which one of his vehicles he decides to drives!

toner123 11-26-2010 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=JB-370z;823106]Hahahaha Rob I dont want to be the one to answer this one!


me either thats why I didn't answer and just stired the pot.

Actully RCZ buy you asking you were stiring the pot thats why i put it there lol
Frank

shumby 11-27-2010 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Staples (Post 822844)
$800 for a knock amp is absolutely outrageous. I can't even listen to music while I'm logging data!

Why can't you? buy the nav tool and you are all set

phares_b 11-27-2010 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 821728)
Sometimes I think its so ironic that people care about mpg in the forced induction section of a sportscar modification forum.

The short answer is that it will not be better, it will be worst, a lot worst. If you want better mileage get a prius.

Back to snuffing baby foxes and melting the icecaps please.

I was curious because the gas mileage for the vvel is not very good to begin with. For an everyday driver if it is going to adversely affect the mileage I would scrap the idea because I have another car that is purely a weekend driver that I will spend the money on. Putting the SC on my infiniti was just one possibility for me.

IDZRVIT 11-27-2010 09:25 AM

If detonation is not normal and therefore should not not happen as some of you are promoting that belief, then why do all modern day engines have anti-knock sensors? The truth is, detonation can happen under certain conditions of loading in all engines and therefore it is normal to expect any engine to have detonation but not all the time of course. Just sayin'....:tiphat: Now, back to your bashing.

Z eliminator 11-27-2010 11:23 AM

Detonation = new 4.5 stroker block. Its only $$$$$$$$.
stock stroker block 11.1 compression with bolts on's would make 375 rwhp easy.
No sc issues, no tranny issues. and i bet that it would sound great.
7 At + stroker, 4.08 gears 3200 stall conveter and a VB. That would be one fast Z.

Z

christian370z 11-27-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 823607)
did you just actually say that? the knock sensor are there to stop the detination. so damage does not happen. they know it is bad and have devised a way to prevent it. how is that saying it is normal? you fail on alot of levels.

So how can a car detect knock and therefore adjust timing in order to prevent it? By detecting it in the first place. :icon23:

Robert_K 11-27-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 823998)
So how can a car detect knock and therefore adjust timing in order to prevent it? By detecting it in the first place. :icon23:

And than retard timing to PREVENT it cause it is UNwanted!


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