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MMC Racing 08-31-2010 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by de_dust (Post 701599)
i am genuinely happy for you that you have no issues with your kit... however, i am hoping your stories about running on cars are all at the track and not road racing because otherwise you are just being irresponsible and just plain stupid...

Save the preaching for church, brother.

StillenZ 08-31-2010 08:21 AM

Agreed ^....Glad to hear you can hang with an M5 (at the track of course you silly goose)...I was kinda hoping to hear that you spanked the M5 though and wish it wasn't so close lol.

Nitex 08-31-2010 09:23 AM

^^ I agree its good for the forum to be against posting and supporting of street racing. But seriously guys, if a challenging car comes up next to you and tempts you to run. And you don't get the desire to blow his doors off. And if you do the biggest Sh#$ eating grin follows. All I'm saying is, lets be respectful of AK's rules. But lets not become so disconnected that the occasional blurb about a run becomes a debate on morals :tup:

weiboy718 08-31-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z (Post 701564)
A little update. I have put 700 miles on my car and things are great. Ran up against a brand new M5 and went toe to toe. It took me on launch a bit but I ran him down on the long end. Car has had no issues yet. Will have some nice pics and review in my journal soon

How much boost you're making?

LateralG'z 08-31-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 702177)
How much boost you're making?

8 psi

Phimosis 09-01-2010 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ (Post 701613)
Agreed ^....Glad to hear you can hang with an M5 (at the track of course you silly goose)...I was kinda hoping to hear that you spanked the M5 though and wish it wasn't so close lol.

Hmm. M5 is 500 hp, 4,100 pounds. How much power should it take a 3,300 lb. 370Z to equal the performance of an M5? 402 hp. That would only be about 345 whp... silimar to what you see with 05-08 Corvettes.

I've had similar problems. dyno says 421 hp. That should be around 500 hp at the engine. Then when I run a 107 mph 1/4 mile trap speed, I'm like wtf?

Nitex 09-01-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis (Post 703037)
Hmm. M5 is 500 hp, 4,100 pounds. How much power should it take a 3,300 lb. 370Z to equal the performance of an M5? 402 hp. That would only be about 345 whp... silimar to what you see with 05-08 Corvettes.

I've had similar problems. dyno says 421 hp. That should be around 500 hp at the engine. Then when I run a 107 mph 1/4 mile trap speed, I'm like wtf?

HP is just a number, as your all aware. Powerband, torque curve, gearing blah blah. My brothers EVO has a good 20hp less and 200lbs more than my Z currently. However, because he gets max torque so early and holds his powerband longer he can hang/pull me depending on the pull :tiphat:

Joebarchuck 09-01-2010 01:58 PM

I wonder if Stillen is planning on making a difference supercharger for the 370Z or upgraded one? Similar to what they did on the 350Z: stage 1, stage 2, stage 3...

fuct 09-01-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Joebarchuck (Post 703590)
I wonder if Stillen is planning on making a difference supercharger for the 370Z or upgraded one? Similar to what they did on the 350Z: stage 1, stage 2, stage 3...

you have a lot of searching and reading ahead of you.

g37mobbin 09-01-2010 03:47 PM

e-mail i got from Kyle:
Hey Ernie,



Everything is looking great for this weekend! The guys were driving the car yesterday and everything was corrected and back to normal before lunch time. John from UPrev over the past few weeks had been working on a tool that allowed us to datalog more finite parameters of the car and using this tool we were able to identify and fix the glitch. All is good and happy now!



Thanks!



Kyle

Chris@FsP 09-01-2010 04:26 PM

Just uploaded the new tune to a customers car, and it fired up nicely. I will report back after we test it out a bit :tup:

Joebarchuck 09-01-2010 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 703704)
you have a lot of searching and reading ahead of you.

Thanks so much for the heads up. Any recommendation on where to start searching and reading??? :tup:

Push370zzz 09-01-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis (Post 696267)
I posted my before and after Supercharger dyno in this thread, post #976. Here's the dyno:

I post my before and after bolt-ons on a thread in the tuning section, because I had my car tuned by technosquare and posted it to show people how the Z does with an 8,100 rpm redline. Dyno charts are in the thread (June 09) I gained 27 hp with g3 intakes, headers, cats, exhaust (stock tune). I gained 42 hp total over baseline with bolt-ons and tuning. The baseline run on the before/after supercharger was with the ECU set back to stock tune. The super charger added 108 hp and that 108 hp gain is very real and you will never, ever come close to that with bolt-ons.

It wasn't however, as much as Stillen advertised with their press car, so I forced the issue and took my car back. Unless Kyle comes up with a "the sky is falling" story, My car should be done tomorrow or next week at the latest.

There is such a huge difference between all those mods yielding 420whp and "just the supercharger and CBE" yielding 438whp...

willtangclan 09-02-2010 07:56 PM

Is there a new tune out for the SC?

Pat@SMM 09-02-2010 08:35 PM

I received an e-mail earlier today from Stillen indicating that there was a new tune available for me.

Osiris 09-03-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat@SMM (Post 705571)
I received an e-mail earlier today from Stillen indicating that there was a new tune available for me.

New tune was applied to my car, Idles 100% better, mid-range good, but still running rich at high revs. So here i am, yet again, waiting for a solution :shakes head:

Anyone else applied this week's tune? Same results?

weiboy718 09-03-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 706260)
New tune was applied to my car, Idles 100% better, mid-range good, but still running rich at high revs. So here i am, yet again, waiting for a solution :shakes head:

Anyone else applied this week's tune? Same results?

What about hot starting? Did the new tune fixed that? Also, does your car bogs a little on low rpm especially when going uphill?

Osiris 09-03-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 706291)
What about hot starting? Did the new tune fixed that? Also, does your car bogs a little on low rpm especially when going uphill?

I'm getting my info from the dealer where my car has been sitting for past 2.5 months. So i have no idea if it bogs...all my mechanic said is it has problems running rich at high rpm. So i have to wait for them to go back and forth with Stillen for what will most likely be another tweaked ecu tune. And who knows how long that will F'ing take. This whole fiasco has reached epic fail proportions.

As far as going uphill, would be hard to find a hill in Florida.

RCZ 09-03-2010 10:42 AM

From what I heard the new tune is working well.

Osiris 09-03-2010 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 706295)
From what I heard the new tune is working well.

:bowrofl: funny.

RCZ 09-03-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 706297)
:bowrofl: funny.

What's the AFR up top?

Osiris 09-03-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rcz (Post 706326)
what's the afr up top?

afr?

LiquidZ 09-03-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 706375)
afr?

Air-fuel ratio

Osiris 09-03-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 706387)
Air-fuel ratio

Dunno; i'll have to ask my mechanic when i talk to him next....i don't have the car, he does. But the new part Stillen sent out this week was installed and the new tune was applied...so whichever afr it's using, that's what it has.

g37mobbin 09-03-2010 12:37 PM

alright,
so in 24 hours i will have my car....crossing my fingers...leaving tomorrow Morning^_^

RCZ 09-03-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 706375)
afr?

Ah.

OK, can you ask mechanics what the AFR is that they considered rich at high RPM on a boosted application?

Kastley85891 09-03-2010 01:55 PM

Anyone got any logs to post as yet, seems to be a lot of tuning and changes with no real data to look at of any sort except word of mouth.
If some one wants to send me the files I can graph em up NP.

Neo187H 09-03-2010 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kastley85891 (Post 706580)
Anyone got any logs to post as yet, seems to be a lot of tuning and changes with no real data to look at of any sort except word of mouth.
If some one wants to send me the files I can graph em up NP.

I'm sure Stillen has all of this info, though sadly they have been absent from from the thread with any real hard info for a while.

Kastley85891 09-03-2010 02:48 PM

Yeah, they wont post any specific tune data for fear of reverse engineering, I mean who would want to run this tune anyways.... but that is their right.

Any one can get or log from the vehicle if they have the relevant cables/sware, just throwing it out there as there is a real lack of 'actual' information relative to engine parameters.

DannyGT 09-03-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 706462)
Ah.

OK, can you ask mechanics what the AFR is that they considered rich at high RPM on a boosted application?

I see what you did here. Brilliant.

christian370z 09-03-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kastley85891 (Post 706668)
Yeah, they wont post any specific tune data for fear of reverse engineering, I mean who would want to run this tune anyways.... but that is their right.

Any one can get or log from the vehicle if they have the relevant cables/sware, just throwing it out there as there is a real lack of 'actual' information relative to engine parameters.

The unfortunate part of their in house tune is that you are required to use it in order to receive their warranty which you pay for within the purchase price. You can choose to have it tuned elsewhere but then you void your warranty and lose what you paid for.

Zsteve 09-03-2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 706846)
The unfortunate part of their in house tune is that you are required to use it in order to receive their warranty which you pay for within the purchase price. You can choose to have it tuned elsewhere but then you void your warranty and lose what you paid for.

so then they should take some $$$$$ for not getting their tune or warranty. Stillen?

Kastley85891 09-03-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 706846)
The unfortunate part of their in house tune is that you are required to use it in order to receive their warranty which you pay for within the purchase price. You can choose to have it tuned elsewhere but then you void your warranty and lose what you paid for.

Yep - fair point, but really is it worth the 'cushion' of the supplied warrenty. (I have no idea the depth of the offered warrenty)

Got to pay to play and TBH if you FI a N/A motor you should be prepaired to fix it if it pops anyways IMHO.




Agreed Zsteve

willtangclan 09-03-2010 08:28 PM

Updated the new tune, the car is pinging very very hard under load. Ie starting in first gear. Reflashed it to previous tune.....Whats going on??

Seb@SZ 09-03-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by willtangclan (Post 706936)
Updated the new tune, the car is pinging very very hard under load. Ie starting in first gear. Reflashed it to previous tune.....Whats going on??

It's probably leaned it out too much and\or aggressive timing. It just looks like as time progresses each car really needs to be custom tuned. Either they can't get the tune spot on or each car is that much more different.

jnaut 09-03-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Seb@SZ (Post 707010)
It's probably leaned it out too much and\or aggressive timing. It just looks like as time progresses each car really needs to be custom tuned. Either they can't get the tune spot on or each car is that much more different.

:iagree:

Kastley85891 09-03-2010 10:31 PM

^ Warranty that. What a horror story

My guess is low down timing to help build boost and to give better throttle response, gain some TRQ numbers from earlier peak etc.

They should sell the kit with the optional base map, as in , good enough to stay of boost and get you to a dyno, and highly recommend that the vehicle is custom tuned at recommended facilitys.

Turn key just does not seem to be cutting it on this occasion.

Pity as the more offerings out there the better for everyone.

christian370z 09-03-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kastley85891 (Post 706882)
Yep - fair point, but really is it worth the 'cushion' of the supplied warrenty. (I have no idea the depth of the offered warrenty)

Got to pay to play and TBH if you FI a N/A motor you should be prepaired to fix it if it pops anyways IMHO.

Definately, there is no arguing that for sure. I did not realize Stillen has a tuner option which means that there is no tune but it also comes with no warranty either. I don't see a decreased price option for this "Tuner" package online but maybe a call to Stillen might get an answer.

I know all about paying to play, I could have supercharged, coilovered, and big brake kitted my Z with the amount I put into my 360hp '96 Saab lol. I still do it anyway though. ;)

Kastley85891 09-03-2010 10:37 PM

^^ yup yup, man I blew a motor with 8K on the clock, Wife not happy, i was in the name of science I tell ya lol

weiboy718 09-04-2010 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by willtangclan (Post 706936)
Updated the new tune, the car is pinging very very hard under load. Ie starting in first gear. Reflashed it to previous tune.....Whats going on??

sorry that it didn't work for you!

i flashed my car at 7pm last night with the new tune and just came home from a drive and it drives very good, it also made very use able low end power. no more bogs, hard starts are gone too. only thing i haven't done is redline it and in full boost! the highest rpm i went was around 5k rpm and i am very sure the power is alot stronger than my previous tune. will update again once i test it out some more.


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