Dipping a toe in the rabbit hole...

Spooler

I get a tickle out of you guys arguing about turbo charging and super charger differences. It is quit entertaining.

TBatt

Not so much arguing as it is discussing. The end result of both is more power but a different way to get there and a different driving experience.

A factory turbo car these days is pretty well sorted out and the fact that it has a turbo is well hidden because of the sophistication of the system. Adding a turbo to a NA car does not give you the same integrated driving experience. It is more raw (which can be awesome).

A SC installed on a NA car is just a smoother driving experience to me.

One thing that I have noticed with turbos is how they handle hills when cruising on the highway/interstate. As soon as the engine starts to get a load on it due to going up hill the turbos spool up and give more power. The SC cars don't do that.

Either way you go it is gonna' be fun!

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Spooler

The rawer it is the more I like it. I don't want something anybody can drive fast. I want something you have to work at it. The satisfaction is much greater. Plus, I grew up with RAW like most of the old farts on here. LMAO. I guess that is why I like the older 911 GT2RS's or an F40. It wants to kill me, great, give it here.

TopgunZ

There have been a lot of modifications to this kit since it's inception. The L pipe will fit right up.

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TBatt

I got to drive the first generation 930 turbo and that car was a hoot! The owner told me that as soon as the tach hits 4000 rpm, shift. I still would hit the rev limiter. The time it took the engine to go from 4000 rpm to redline was less than a second. That car was a handful!

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MZ DAIZY

So, after a ton reading it’s my understanding that This is going to melt my stock cats. Unfortunately, test pipes are a deal breaker for me. My HOA measures the length of my lawn, so I’m going to go out on a limb and say they aren’t going to be pleased with an open exhaust.

I’m running a FI CBE with 12” resonators, stock manifolds and cats and get the stink eye every time I cruise the hood now, mostly due to its Hilly and there’s just now way to get in or out of here “quietly”.

Do I have options other than test pipes? Will this melt Quality HFC’s?

Is there a quieter solution?

PS: unfortunately, moving is not an option at this time.

redondoaveb

FI sells lead pipes with 100 cell mil spec cats welded in. They help a little bit. You still need to run test pipes. I run Art pipes. That's really about the best you can imo.

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wideglideleon

I went with Berk HFC and burned them out in less then two years, went to ART pipes and haven't looked back . They really aren't any louder then my HFC were just a deeper sound and they WONT burn out.

Spooler

Run resonated test pipes. FI sells them.

"Z"en

Vote for Art Pipes. Definitely quieter. Quality workmanship.

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TopgunZ

I swapped my Berk Cats out for the ART pipes and to me they sounded identical.

If you want to keep things tame then use a Nismo exhaust with the ARTS. It will not be any louder than your current setup and you will still have really good flow.

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Jayhovah

Like redondoaveb mentioned - FI sells exhausts with mil-spec cats farther downstream. Alternatively, you can just buy mil-spec cats and have any 'jim-bob's mufflers and handyjay's' type of shop weld them in for you. There are definitely cats out there that an handle the boosted environment, just none off-the-shelf for our cars since <1% of hobbyists would want them.

Turbos are actually very effective mufflers as it turns out. My car ended up a lot more quiet than I thought it would be... though I am running the Invidia cat-back which I believe is on the quieter end as well.

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MZ DAIZY

Ok, thanks guys for talking me off the ledge... I’ll have to do some more research, but at least I have options.

A really, REALLY stupid question.... I see a lot of guys that don’t run their SC’d cars with the threat of rain.

Is this because of traction issues or because of water getting sucked up by the SC?

redondoaveb

I got caught in pouring rain with the turbo guard screen on and was really concerned. When I got home I popped the hood and there was no water on the core support near the blower. Blower was completely dry.

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MZ DAIZY

Ok, so water is a concern? Only asking because it’s my DD, and gets wet. My days of waiting under overpasses for storms to pass were over when I sold my last Harley. 🤪