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Elmo370z 07-13-2021 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4002425)
Whatever, I am not running pump gas unless I have to get home. That's it.
Lol fair enough

redondoaveb 07-13-2021 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4002449)
:icon14::gtfo2::rofl2:

Rusty 07-13-2021 09:43 PM
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:icon14::gtfo2::rofl2:
when he talks. Do you see tweety birds floating above your head?

Spooler 07-13-2021 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4002461)
when he talks. Do you see tweety birds floating above your head?
I know you get it.

BettyZ 07-13-2021 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4002454)
:icon14::gtfo2::rofl2:
moar intercooler multiplied by the square root of the earth's diametric circumsized radius minus the shaft = moar horsepowerz. Got it.

Rusty 07-13-2021 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4002466)
I know you get it.
I'm used to dealing with them on Very LARGE Engines. :icon14:

redondoaveb 07-13-2021 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 4002470)
moar intercooler multiplied by the square root of the earth's diametric circumsized radius minus the shaft = moar horsepowerz. Got it.
See, you explained it perfectly :tiphat: Why couldn't Spooler do that? He had to bring numbers into it. I ain't no gooder with numbers :rofl2:

Spooler 07-13-2021 10:06 PM
Go back and look at the video for a glimpse of the FI intercooler. I have no idea how my car will do but it should do well. How well, I don't know. If I was measuring boost pressure before and after the intercooler I would know what kind a pressure drop I am getting. At high boost I beat I am dropping 2 to 4 psi after the intercooler because of the end caps. That drop creates heat.

Spooler 07-13-2021 10:08 PM
One heck of a journey and I am still learning. If it was easy, everybody would do it.

redondoaveb 07-13-2021 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4002476)
Go back and look at the video for a glimpse of the FI intercooler. I have no idea how my car will do but it should do well. How well, I don't know. If I was measuring boost pressure before and after the intercooler I would know what kind a pressure drop I am getting. At high boost I beat I am dropping 2 to 4 psi after the intercooler because of the end caps. That drop creates heat.
Why did they not measure boost pressure before and after the intercooler?

redondoaveb 07-13-2021 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4002477)
One heck of a journey and I am still learning. If it was easy, everybody would do it.
And I'm coming from supercharging which I learned a lot about. Hell, Seb referred everyone to me to answer supercharger questions. Now I have to learn turbocharging.

Spooler 07-13-2021 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4002479)
Why did they not measure boost pressure before and after the intercooler?
What ya gonna measure it with and collect the data. A standalone would be the only option to get good data. I knew I had an issue but didn't understand why. Now I do. I am just sharing with everyone like I always do.
That is the Engineer in my. I just can't help myself.

redondoaveb 07-13-2021 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4002485)
What ya gonna measure it with and collect the data. A standalone would be the only option to get good data. I knew I had an issue but didn't understand why. Now I do. I am just sharing with everyone like I always do.
That is the Engineer in my. I just can't help myself.
When I was having boost issues with my new supercharger, Seb measured boost pressure on both sides of my IC.

Rusty 07-13-2021 10:28 PM
To do it properly. You would need to have pressure sensors at each IC inlet and outlet. Before the throttle bodies. Before and after the turbo hot side. At the ends of the tail pipes. Vac sensors at the air filters. At the front of the turbo inlet cold side. Then know on how to read all of the information.

Spooler 07-13-2021 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4002488)
When I was having boost issues with my new supercharger, Seb measured boost pressure on both sides of my IC.
Well, I didn't require it. It was take it off the dyno and make me an IC. Decision took about 2 seconds.

Spooler 07-13-2021 10:33 PM
I already knew what Justin's car did with GT3076 turbo's with the same AR. They are very similar to mine. The difference was the parts of the turbo kit he used. The CJ motorsports TT parts are very efficient for sure
and I already knew that.

redondoaveb 07-13-2021 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4002491)
Well, I didn't require it. It was take it off the dyno and make me an IC. Decision took about 2 seconds.
Didn't you know by IAT's that you had an IC issue. My IAT's were good

Spooler 07-13-2021 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4002493)
Didn't you know by IAT's that you had an IC issue. My IAT's were good
Yes, but what was it? Intercooler or turbo's? My best guess was the intercooler. I don't mess around too much. I normally have already thought about things way before hand. I just move forward.

redondoaveb 07-13-2021 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4002495)
Yes, but what was it? Intercooler or turbo's? My best guess was the intercooler. I don't mess around too much. I normally have already thought about things way before hand. I just move forward.
True. Intercooler is the easiest thing to change out and cheapest (and I don't mean cheap though) :rofl2:

Hotrodz 07-13-2021 11:12 PM
So if I understand everything you guys have been talking about, the bigger the AR the littler you **** is...so who has the biggest **** Spooler or Redondo?

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Spooler 07-13-2021 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 4002499)
So if I understand everything you guys have been talking about, the bigger the AR the littler you **** is...so who has the biggest **** Spooler or Redondo?

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Someone has had too many toddies tonight. LMAO!!!!:inoutroflpuke:

Elmo370z 07-13-2021 11:48 PM
Me I’m a 1.01 lol

BettyZ 07-14-2021 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4002479)
Why did they not measure boost pressure before and after the intercooler?
Seems pretty negligent of them.

BettyZ 07-14-2021 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4002485)
What ya gonna measure it with and collect the data. A standalone would be the only option to get good data. I knew I had an issue but didn't understand why. Now I do. I am just sharing with everyone like I always do.
That is the Engineer in my. I just can't help myself.
I thought Rusty was the engineer in you :stirthepot::stirthepot:

geeteezee 07-14-2021 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 4002522)
I thought Rusty was the engineer in you :stirthepot::stirthepot:
Shots fired.

Mr.Squeeze 07-14-2021 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4002364)
Good thing I am in the holding pattern. It appears it will rain at Pocono this Sunday. I would of hate to went all the way up there to not unload the car. I would not have been happy. LOL

It's been canceled

johnxxx 07-14-2021 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 4002532)
It's been canceled
Yeah, saw that. They are pushing the event to Oct 3rd... no action required for ticket holders. If there's another event prior to that, they will allow transfer to that one.

They were supposed to make this call Thursday but it looks like someone got antsy and called it today. :ugh2: I would think a late Thurs/early Fri go/no-go decision would have been appropriate and allow for folks to plan accordingly.

Was hoping to go and possibly see you there @MrSqueeze! next time...:tup:

Mr.Squeeze 07-14-2021 10:47 AM
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Yeah, saw that. They are pushing the event to Oct 3rd... no action required for ticket holders. If there's another event prior to that, they will allow transfer to that one.



They were supposed to make this call Thursday but it looks like someone got antsy and called it today. :ugh2: I would think a late Thurs/early Fri go/no-go decision would have been appropriate and allow for folks to plan accordingly.



Was hoping to go and possibly see you there @MrSqueeze! next time...:tup:
They are not the only ones that run events at Pocono RaceMotive does as well. Check out there Instagram page. I'm eying August 1 and September 4 .

If you do go let me know would be nice to see another Z there Attachment 147623

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Spooler 07-14-2021 03:34 PM
2 types of intercoolers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P7KanLrZko

Spooler 07-14-2021 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 4002532)
It's been canceled
That no doubt makes me feel better.

Spooler 07-14-2021 11:01 PM
I will share pictures when it is all done.

Spooler 07-15-2021 01:15 AM
I am excited to see how the car does with the new intercooler. I have a feeling I was leaving a bunch of HP on the table. All the reading I have done makes me think it may be a big jump.

BOLIO 671 07-15-2021 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4001824)
What I don't understand is why wouldn't he have soho do the tune since it's their build. For some reason he's a Moncef fanboy.
Big time fan boy! He even said that he switched from Seb to Moncef.... :shakes head: Those flame maps must really get these younger guys....Almost all the Z guys (N/A) here drool over Moncef and have been hinting at me to switch. I just chuckle and tell them to do more research. :gtfo2:

redondoaveb 07-15-2021 08:30 PM
Have you ever looked into a turbo speed sensor?
https://www.garrettmotion.com/racing...a-speed-sensor

Spooler 07-15-2021 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4002781)
Have you ever looked into a turbo speed sensor?
https://www.garrettmotion.com/racing...a-speed-sensor
For a standalone, yes. I really don't need one at the moment. I am not trying to extract every last ounce out of my engine. If you give me 10 to 15k, I will get a Motec M150 installed and the software written to data log with it.

Spooler 07-15-2021 09:18 PM
If anyone wants to take the lead, go ahead by all means. You won't hurt my feelings any.

redondoaveb 07-15-2021 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4002795)
For a standalone, yes. I really don't need one at the moment. I am not trying to extract every last ounce out of my engine. If you give me 10 to 15k, I will get a Motec M150 installed and the software written to data log with it.
I'll email SOHO and have them go ahead and order the Motec for you per your instructions. I'll follow up with the payment. :tiphat:

Spooler 07-15-2021 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4002798)
I'll email SOHO and have them go ahead and order the Motec for you per your instructions. I'll follow up with the payment. :tiphat:
LOL, not happening. Nice try.

Spooler 07-15-2021 09:30 PM
I am done after this anyways. Just gonna go enjoy the car.

redondoaveb 07-15-2021 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4002800)
I am done after this anyways. Just gonna go enjoy the car.
Keep telling yourself that :rofl2:


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