Preparation for the STILLEN supercharger

Zguy · 03-06-2010, 11:18 AM

lol +1

G Fo12ce · 03-06-2010, 11:44 AM

Storm, not trying to pick a fight at all but here is how I see it.

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Originally Posted by stormcrow

I don't see that this will confuse anyone nor do I see that it is relevant to the 370Z kit that is yet to be installed/tuned/tested. (Granted they are the same kit with exceptions being different fuel delivery and possibly the loss of the strut bar.)

You aknowlege the G37 info may not be a relevant comparison with the Z (the car you have) yet you are still grinding him for the PSI #. It won't be long hang in there and stop pouting. The differences you pointed out in fuel deilvery ect may make a difference then the argument will have been pointless. Either way they are going to do what they want and he said no already...

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I honestly would just like to know what PSI is required to achieve 420+ at the wheel with 20" wheels. A lot of people have these on the 370Z, as well

They are not going to test every possible combo. If I were you (and I'm saying this becasue we have the same car) I'd be more concerned weather STILLEN will offer (or research the need for) a tune for NISMO models if need be. My car base line dyno'd around 300HP to the wheels bone stock and that's not all from a Nismo exhaust. The tune is differnet and makes a difference. Thier tune may or may not be ideal for your car.

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Originally Posted by Xan

Yes, you'd think people give them credit for sharing information all together.

Instead they focus on the information they don't have, think of dubious reasons why they don't have the info.

In the end this is information they will have before they can actually buy the product anyways....So why make such a point that you don't have the info today.... I don't get it....

Patience is a virtue...

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Originally Posted by RCZ

^ no one gets it. Kyle has a LOT more patience than I do. I would've told him to f off a long time ago.

Kyle has showed some wisdom in not getting involved with some of the drama on the other thread. Same applys here. Also you don't want to piss of any potential customers especially in times like these. I'm sure they all count, they are a business.

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Originally Posted by shumby

the problem is that stillen has their sales men on here selling there SC and not the guys that are developing it. So really what do we expect.

Traditionally engineers and technicians don't do marketing, promotion, or sales. Mostly because it's rare you have a guy that's good at or has time for both. I don't think Kyle is a salesman per say. Sorry if you were trying to be more annonymous Kyle LOL, but for those who are unaware Kyle's last name is MILLEN. Only an assumption, but you are talking to the guy who will likely some day take over when Steve Millen decides to call it quits. I'm sure he has more influence so maybe be thankful you have him here versus a "salesman". Just my

This thread is going to die soon anyway when they make a new official release so all you F5'ers are going to have to deal until then lol.

shumby · 03-06-2010, 11:54 AM

bla bla bla?

CBRich · 03-06-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stormcrow

Understood. But, again, stating what PSI you used on the test G37 to ascertain the dyno posted should not be an issue. I don't see that this will confuse anyone nor do I see that it is relevant to the 370Z kit that is yet to be installed/tuned/tested. (Granted they are the same kit with exceptions being different fuel delivery and possibly the loss of the strut bar.) I honestly would just like to know what PSI is required to achieve 420+ at the wheel with 20" wheels. A lot of people have these on the 370Z, as well.

Also, as a potential repeat client, I would love to see transparency when you post dynos. Witholding key information as to how the quoted power was obtained is not transparent.

And don't mistake my meaning - I don't mean that wheel horse power numbers should be identical...but, more of what you stated of the percentages you purport in your advertisements (threads) should be reproducable by most, if not all, who purchase the kit. This wasn't the case for me in my last experience with a Stillen produced SC kit. Even when running 93 octane and not the piss-water you Cali guys call fuel.

But, I digress. Hopefully we will see some honest and complete posts about the previous testing and any future testing. :cheers:

Seriously? He's not gonna state it until the press release. Get over it for God's sake. Kyle won't say it because he's a proper businessman but I can. Screw Off.

travisjb · 03-06-2010, 12:38 PM

+1 ... it's pretty easy to spot the difference between curiosity and mischief in these posts... amusing to a point, but I think we're beyond that point

G Fo12ce · 03-06-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby

bla bla bla?

Don't you have headlamp fluid to check,

Xan · 03-06-2010, 12:42 PM

(in an effort to get this thread back on track)
we know Stillen has released all that they are comfortable with before the soon to be press release. So let's get of that subject and focus on the fun.

For those who are considering this SC, what is your goal in either HP or track/drag time or something else?

And what other mods are you planning to run to make the most of the SC?
Are you planning on replacing the clutch?

shumby · 03-06-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by G Fo12ce

Don't you have headlamp fluid to check,

lool. i just ordered some from spawn and HP. see if i get it.

(derailed again?)

96bigbody · 03-06-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan

(in an effort to get this thread back on track)
we know Stillen has released all that they are comfortable with before the soon to be press release. So let's get of that subject and focus on the fun.

For those who are considering this SC, what is your goal in either HP or track/drag time or something else?

And what other mods are you planning to run to make the most of the SC?
Are you planning on replacing the clutch?

I need a 11sec slip..

Xan · 03-06-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody

I need a 11sec slip..

Then you'd better start building the engine.

I'm not a drag expert, but I would think you would need +500 HP and torque at the wheels to get a 370 over the line in 11 seconds

G37Sam · 03-06-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody

I need a 11sec slip..

You bought the wrong car buddy haha

Buddy Revell · 03-06-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan

For those who are considering this SC, what is your goal in either HP or track/drag time or something else?

My goal? To make M3s and IS-Fs my bitches.

jmlenz · 03-06-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell

To make M3s and IS-Fs my bitches.

^ haha I agree. I was thouroghly embarrassed my an e92 M3 the other day...not cool.

StillenZ · 03-06-2010, 02:25 PM

Man, I'm all for a good debate and some give and take on the two different kits but this thread has just gotten negative in the past week or so.

I feel like the people I see in the GTM thread saying the greatest things about the kit are the same ones over here saying the most negative things. I'm thinking once the full press release comes out, so many of these questions will be answered... I mean, nothing freakin matters until the final product is released... things could change right?... The unicorn blood could end up not having its expected results!...

I hate to look like a "fanboi", but it seems like all the criticizing could wait until the actual release. I for one can say that I am really liking the pricing and the results on the GTM kit. (Pricing vs power is going to be the big concern for me), but I still want to give Stillen a fair shot to release some honest figures.

Xan · 03-06-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jmlenz

^ haha I agree. I was thouroghly embarrassed my an e92 M3 the other day...not cool.

Yeah you should learn all the performance cars capabilities, so to know which ones you give a friendly wave and which you can embarrass

Then at least if they are stock, the odds are in your favor.

For me the SC is just because I love the feeling of the G forces!

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shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 45 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	bla bla bla? __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

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travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 189	+1 ... it's pretty easy to spot the difference between curiosity and mischief in these posts... amusing to a point, but I think we're beyond that point __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

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StillenZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 283 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Red M Rep Power: 16	Man, I'm all for a good debate and some give and take on the two different kits but this thread has just gotten negative in the past week or so. I feel like the people I see in the GTM thread saying the greatest things about the kit are the same ones over here saying the most negative things. I'm thinking once the full press release comes out, so many of these questions will be answered... I mean, nothing freakin matters until the final product is released... things could change right?... The unicorn blood could end up not having its expected results!... I hate to look like a "fanboi", but it seems like all the criticizing could wait until the actual release. I for one can say that I am really liking the pricing and the results on the GTM kit. (Pricing vs power is going to be the big concern for me), but I still want to give Stillen a fair shot to release some honest figures. __________________ Stillen Dual Exhaust / Stillen Gen 3 Intake / Stillen Headers / Eibach Pro-Kit / Euro Fog Lamp / 1000W JL Audio Amp / 2 - 12' JBL P1222's / Pioneer In-dash Nav

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