0-60 times should be pretty easy to get, right? What car iPhone apps do you and Josh have?

dynolicious

Cool. I've got Logworks, since it's free. Haven't used it yet though.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/logwo...351896392?mt=8

Downloaded...

Cool! Let me know how you like it. My ultimate goal is to use either Logworks and the OT-2: OT-2 OBD-II WiFi Interface for PCs and Smartphones or REV and the PLX KIWI: PLX Kiwi Wifi - Connect your iPhone / iPod Touch to your car's OBD2 OBDII Port. to display gauges on my Nav screen (kinda like a GT-R) when I supercharge my G. I already have the Nav mod and jailbroken iPhone done already to support this.

Dyno is for tuning..You can make a dyno say what you want. Track times not so much. Anyway it's great to see it out on the streets:rock:!

I checked out the video and could only think WTF??? I didn't expect much, but I didn't expect to see a low angle drift. I can wait for the real one though. How long till you start working on the Z?

Are you complaining? seriously?

Not really. It just wasn't what I was expecting. I guess my expectations are a little misplaced. Sorry for the confusion.:ugh2:

Either one can yield good info if we can get a comparison on the same dyno or track on the same day of other cars like, say, an M3 or an IS-F.

Stillen, in your opinion, what is an acceptable range for adiabatic efficiency?

One thing that is important to me is having room to grow with the supercharger. If I need to crank up the boost to make more power, I want to know that I am within an acceptable adiabatic efficiency.

What are your thoughts? I'm thinking above 70% is acceptable.

LOL.. what are you trying to do Liquid spin these poor guys brains?

To save everyone from googling to death, here's a good article which gives you some insight on adiabatic efficiency and what he's discussing: Supercharger & Blower Basics - Tech Article - Chevy High Performance Magazine

As far as this exact supercharger, and our setup, I'd have to refer to our engineers to get an idea of what this lays out to, but I will tell you the system has been designed around the fact that we're not pushing the current S/C to the limit, and within the current series we've spec'd, there is also additional trims that can support much more..

well I know on the Vortech site, it says the V-3 is capable of boosting up to 22psi with max power at 775hp with an efficiency of 78%, is that what hes referring to?

Can I get a race gas only tune? ;)

It would be nice to have a tuner with a map that can be selected for race gas only, wish Cobb would get off their a$$es and do something.

We have some stuff in the works.. :) Will do everything you're asking about..

we'll have to wait and see.

That must be on a V-8 that is putting out more volume. Something like a Vette or something with similar displacement.

What exactly are you referring to?

This is what I was talking about from earlier. I actually got crossed up in the forum here. Somehow, I made a multi-quote reply from one thread to another. Kinda messed me up. I am going to stick to one tab at a time now, lol.

Gotcha. Those numbers are actually properties of the compressor regardless of the engine its feeding.

That is pretty awesome then. I have been doing a lot of reading on SC setups and they seem simple, but very different from a turbo or twin turbo setup. I mean boost is boost, gotcha, but they respond differently.

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I am just looking for a system that can be taylored to be highly responsive. I had luck with various turbo setups in my S13 (when it had a CA18DET), but I spent a lot of time >4000RPM. I am sure that driving a SC powered car is somewhat different than driving a turbo/twin_turbo car.
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Spin my brain josh, some of us here knew what it was we aren't all new to this. Just for referance a whipple 140ax has has a maximum 30psi and a peak AE of 80%, and it can provide peak boost from below 3000 rpm, with over a 700hp capacity, where does the vortech unit fall?

From SUPERCHARGERS: Vortech V-3 Series Supercharger | Vortech Superchargers

Si Trim:
Max Speed: 52000 RPM
Max Boost: 22 PSI
Max Flow: 1150 CFM
Max Power: 775 HP
Peak Efficiency: 78%

SCi Trim:
Max Speed: 53000 RPM
Max Boost: 17 PSI
Max Flow: 1050 CFM
Max Power: 725 HP
Peak Efficiency: 75%

GTM's SC is now released with pricing. When will we see stillens?

I'm wondering the same thing. I have the money to blow!!!

At least now I know which kit I'm not buying. It's down to Stillen to see if I go FI at all or not...

Don't let me down :)

I'm curious why?

I cannot wait to hear your BS reasons RCZ

Agreed. We are in their early March window for release info.

Didnt like what I saw in the other kit. I live in Miami, it rains a lot here and speaking completely seriously, hydrolocking is a real concern for me. In my opinion the location of their sc is forced and they had to make some serious compromises to get it to work. Regardless, I asked the questions because I don't want to make premature assumptions without their data. It just seems "half way to get it out sooner than Stillen" for me. What difference does it make though, its just one person's opinion. Not an attack on GTM or anything but, the fit and finish of all the clamps, welds, and other bits feel like they could have used another week or two in development.

Feels like a LOT more actual research has gone into the Stillen than the GTM. When I look at the GTM kit it seems like "OK we know what we want to do, lets find a way to make it work and voila." The Stillen ones seems to me like they said, "Ok, whats the best way we can do this and why? Ok we chose this, lets study the options and make sure we are maximizing performance. What could we have done to make this better?"

I don't know if that makes any sense to you.

Kyle, can we expect to see an introductory competetive price under 5k like the other kit available for the VHR?

(I'm trying to stay away from names)

Thanks Kyle!

RCZ, I feel the same way you do. I actually have the same concerns you do about the GTM kit. Well said, imo.

When they're done drifting it! lol

Shumby, I got no issues with you man, I know you like GTM and are friends with Sam. I can see you are annoyed and you think I'm a Stillen fanboi. Like any good friend you are standing up for them. I understand so I'm not even mad that you think I have BS reasons.

I think there's nothing wrong with a little healthy competition between the two companies. Keeps our prices down and performance up.

Wonder if Stillen can beat GTM's price or at least match it, with the massive R&D they put, it looks hard

^ That I'm wondering as well, if they did though...that would be unbelievable.

Damn, I know... I was surprised to see the 5K price tag.... It was definitely what I was hoping for but I didn't think it would happen... Its crazy, now it just seems like everything is happening all at once and I'm overwhelmed... Stillens is going to be coming out soon and then it will be decision making time! I can't believe the time has almost arrived! lol

I don't see how Stillen could beat that price, especially with the new intake manifold.

I think its going to come down to their relationship with Vortech to help keep pricing down. The fact some Vortech employees met with Stillen to see the kit might be an indication of some sort of "collaboration". This is all theory of course and should be taken with a grain of salt.

If the power is good, and the quality is great, pricing should be scaled appropriately.