We definitely appreciate the input!

In regards to the supercharger finish, keep in mind that our prototype that we're testing with is the polished version of the blower. There is a less expensive option which will be the raw cast aluminum finish. I don't know yet what the pricing difference will be but aesthetically it could change some things.

Right now we're kind of in "make it work" mode not so much, make it pretty.

So you're saying it's not working? :stirthepot:

Haha just messing

Oh jeez!

Sam, you never let me down with your remarks!!! LOL

I am definitely offended Kyle.. I have been pressuring the **** out of you guys for a while now and I don't plan on stopping... I guess I'm taking my business elsewhere!!! lol... but seriously, thanks for humoring us with the late February (2010) comment...

On a more serious note: are you taking orders for the custom twin screw supercharger that I believe one of you mentioned would be way easier?!!?!?!?!? I want a new CF hood so....do I make an appointment or what?! lol..

Well, one more day down.. That much closer to the end of February, beginning of March... I'm foaming at the mouth

^ I am so confused.

Have you finally gone completely insane waiting for this kit?

insanity might be close lol... I re-read it and maybe its a bad thing that it makes sense to me??

The first paragraph was a comment that started in the past couple days when someone mentioned that it was never stated as to what year it would be released... then Kyle earlier today made it clear that he was talking about 2010 and I chuckled so I thought it was worth mentioning (probably not though lol, thanks for pointing that out) and also it was about Kyle offending me with his paragraph that was prefaced with in a later statement.

The second paragraph may have been my misunderstanding ... I thought he was talking about a twin screw set up which from what I have read sounds amazing, but I'm a newb..
I think that last paragraph is pretty self explanatory...I'm not literally foaming at the mouth (yet), but very close...

Sorry for taking up so much space and posting so much.. I hope this clears things up a little... but to summarize it all.. I am pumped! Thanks

edit: I hope I made it clear that I'm not really offended at all... I know this internet can make things hard to interpret at times and so can my sarcastic *** way of typing..

three deep breaths, woozaaa.
"I will not check stillens sc thread 35 times a day like RCZ does"

Repeat.

Makes sense to me StillenZ, so at least you got someone with you on that crazy bus. I'm sure if you have the cash for CUSTOM work stillen would be more then happy to work with you when they have time.

Hearing that you will offer a raw aluminum finish is good news. I was thinking of possibly doing some sort of wrinkle finish on the manifold. Well, it sounds right in my head at least...

The wrinkle finish would look pretty cool! I think that we will actually be doing a wrinkle finish, although I'm not sure on that. It's funny because wrinkle finish looks really good on the manifolds but smooth black powder coat looks really good on the charge pipe where a wrinkle black would look too industrial in my opinion...Kind of odd how those two different finishes on two different components right next to each other can look so good.

I know what you mean. Polished engine parts belong on Motorcycles and show cars. I actually like the wrinkled powder coat look.

I just realized I completely misread your post. For some reason I thought you were talking about the intake manifold finish, and not the supercharger's. This makes more sense as Vortech always offers a satin finish and a polished finish.

But, doing a wrinkle finish on the intake manifold would look good. Its just a matter of making everything else match well.

:eek: i thought my 3 a day average was bad, RCZ if you die of a heart attack waiting can i have your z? i could have the brilliant silver ( Im not using the acronym for my color because it sounds like im poking fun of my z ) for the daytime z and your pg as the night time z.

I like candy red, like on my last 350Z!!!!!!

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4...8mediumkj7.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5...d003medium.jpg

:drool:

Haha, nah no heart attack here.

I'm on here so often because this is how I take breaks from work. It distracts me and takes my stress away. I can't be the only one on this boat. I think if I worked at a place like Stillen I'd be happy all the time.

Back on topic... for me its either polished or covered in some sort of heat insulation. My last turbo was that cast aluminum finish and it looked terrible, I want polished or wrinkle-something this time around.

Few things ....

As far as not publishing numbers, i can respect waiting until the end to publish the final data. However i will continue to give you **** about it because i like to learn the tech side of things, and that comes more from trial and failure, not just seeing the final results.

The "ugly bracket" .... i would say make it match the mounting bracket that is used to stabilize the SC mounting plate. That way it looks more like a kit.

As far as intake manifold coating ... why would anyone want to cover up the aluminum? if you are modifying your car with a supercharger, you want more power right? why close up the pores in the aluminum and reduce the surface area losing possible cooling potential?

Kyle or Josh,
You guys running Stillen cats and exhaust during testing or stock ones?

wow that is a sweet lookin z33, love those roots type blowers

Currently it just has just the STILLEN CBE on the car. We also expect 99% of S/C owners to have an aftermarket exhaust..

More to come later on additional products beyond the CBE..

I think whether raw or wrinkle finish it won't make much difference on heat soak. As far as air temp the intercooler is inside the manifold and right before the air enters the heads. I think maybe the only thing that would help with heat soak would be something like a ceramic coating.

^ I can think of one other thing that will help with heat soak ;)

No hood? :p

The powdercoating will not act as a heat soak or cause any additional issues with heat. I understand what you're saying about not covering the aluminum intake manifold and allowing the air to cool it down better but at the same time, there is virtually no external air flow at the top of the engine that would do a sufficient job in additional cooling. The air coming up there has already gone through all of the coolers, traveled around or over the engine block and managed to find its way to the top of the engine. By the time it gets to the intake manifold its ability to aid in cooling will be minimal.

EVERY supercharger manufacturer uses some sort of coating on their intake manifolds. It looks a lot better than leaving it just raw. Some people will definitely like the raw look but the vast majority will like the black powder coating or similar finish. But, there will absolutely not be a problem with heat soak or anything like that.

Looks like a lot of work you put in there! Looks good!

looks great

So for those of you who have been following, I think I have gone crazy... I could have sworn that when Mike said "I like candy red, like on my last 350Z!!!!!!", there was a badass picture that went with it????? Seriously... I can't find it anymore.. someone help... I just saw it earlier today I swear! lol wow

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Thanks, back in the day when I did it, I got word that Steve even liked it!!!!!


btw, don't know what happened to the pics, they are still in my imageshack account, but direct doesn't seem to work right now. Maybe tomorrow?

sorry to be hogging posts here but the picture just doesn't show up anymore... it showed up earlier in the original post and then again in the quoted posts following and now I can't find it... I'm over it though..maybe it'll show up at work tomorrow...

Can't wait for more updates... only 3 days left in February.. uhoh

Thank you Kyle
 

Kyle,

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I understand how Stillen chose the centrifugal over the TVS.

Please don't misunderstand, I think Stillen is a great company and while I may not like all of the component choices, I respect the quality of work and final products you guys produce.

I did find the design of the intake manifold to be pretty cool with the intergrated exchanger. I have used similar designs in the past and have had great success with placing only heat sinks with heat pipes in the air flow (instead of running the coolant through it), then routing the heat pipes to an outside location where the coolant can flow over them creating a heat exchange cycle. Generally, that system can flow a higher volume of air at a lower pressure and has better heating/ cooling due to improved coolant flow and pressure. Might be an option if you guys start having manfacturing problems with the intergrated exchanger... or if you just need something else to play around with (can never have too many side projects lol).

Anyway, thanks again. You guys are a good bunch in my book.

~Throttle

Just wanted to let everyone know that R&D is way ahead of us. Josh and I had a few minutes to sit down with Steve the other day and talk about some of your concerns/requests and everything we mentioned they had either already changed or agreed with. The charge pipe support bracket was supposed to have some sort of design element but there wasnt time to dress up the prototype. It was however in the drawings though so it is part of the final design. Also, those blue silicone hoses...they'll be black to match better. And we also went through and made a few other suggestions of our own but for the most part it's just like we were talking about and they're simply prototype pieces that will be slightly different when everything is completed.

Thanks for the follow through and for not sweeping even small suggestions under the carpet. Sounds like you guys are really paying attention to the customers and the details. Nice work :tup:

You guys have no idea what we did today with the supercharged G..

*cough* *cough* Can someone say high performance testing on a certain abandoned marine base?

What you want video? It's coming.. :P

:excited::excited::excited::excited::happydance:

Wait I heard this works..



UPDATE VIDS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

I had the pleasure of going for a high speed run with our engineer and Steve and all I can say is:

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD!!!!!!

I think you will enjoy the video's!

^Sam WTF?!?!?!

ummmmmm.... I'm all for funny pics but I don't think this forum will welcome that one!