Haha I wonder that as well. Eric is still running no filter @575whp and only had a head gasket issue so far in 50k miles. Not sure how many of those miles were at that power level though, but the q50 guys are crazy :rofl2:

Yeah, he just did this about a year ago so he maybe put on 15K miles on a low mileage car = blown head gasket. Fun... And just wait till he finds out how much damage to an engine occures without a filter. :ugh2:

If that's the one I'm thinking of he was at 525whp with a filter for tracking it. Sounds like the same one to me anyhow.

Hey guys, Sorry I haven't been on to answer everyones questions. We are talking to a few well known tuners to put together our base maps. Our maps will be for 2 fuel types (91oct and 93oct). We can do an E85 tune but at that point your better off getting a custom tune. We can point you to the right tuner if you need it.

We have come to find that there are some tuners we just cannot recommend in the community due to their lack of experience and unwillingness to learn new products and how to tune them. We wont name names but if you say that one of those tuners is yours we are going to advise you go elsewhere. We have already had issues with those tuners for one not reaching out for help and two bashing the product when they never called for support. But I digress, Our canned tunes will be extremely reliable and safe. You may not get the highest HP out of our canned tune and this is why we recommend getting a custom tune. We want you to enjoy the car and drive it... not have to keep it in the shop for repairs.

For those that buy the kit you will get a standard Uprev License (if you do not have one) and a free canned tune. We will have an upcharge for Ecutek license if you opt for it you will still receive a free canned tune. If you already have a license we will send you a tune for free and give you a credit for the license.

On another note we have our new HAAS 5 axis CNC machine going into our new warehouse. That is expected to be in place in the next week. We should be beginning production on all parts by the end of the month.

What type of oil cooler is included, and what's the credit amount if you already have one?

Oil Coolers are optional.

Optional with the kit, not really optional when going FI. + $400-$650 for the Z1 Oil Cooler. :(

Oil cooling of some kind is necessary, but there are alternatives! My big-*** Gamma oil pan does the job for me, enough for the street anyway. CJM also makes a very nice pan... also the greddy pan. Just a couple of thoughts!

I'm curious what base forced induction kit comes with an oil cooler?

BP kit is the only one I can think of...

Edit: My gamma kit came with the pan which has allowed me to forgo a traditional oil cooler.

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...urbo-kits.html

30 row with Mocal thermostat.

And when I talked to Stillen, they were throwing theirs in for free.

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Well that sux..they definitely didn't do that a couple years ago when I got my kit...I spent about 15k with them the first week I bought my car and I paid full price for mine

Would the oil cooler in 2013+ models cut the mustard for non track drivers?

I deleted mine and honestly, the only difference I can see is that it takes me about 30 more seconds to get the oil to temperature from a cold start. This was after my TT install though, so I was already running with much higher capacity and better cooling from the oil pan.

Now might be a good time to offer more details on the cooling system that was mentioned back in December.

"I spoke with bobby tonight... it looks like they are also going to tackle our cooling system issues. During the initial concept designs they found some reasons why people are experiencing overheating issues. I won't go into details but let's just say that it's pretty ingenious and will help a lot of the track guys. Also stage one will be under $10k out the door. They have mentioned they are going to make a cooling system upgrade kit for resale as well. "

BTW, "out the door" normally means "drive and enjoy". Not sure I would agree it's out the door without a hood or oil cooler.

I must agree, even though you could drive without a hood.

The water/oil cooler actually came out on the 2012. I know, I have one. ;)

Yeah so I believe they are foregoing the cooling upgrades to the motor due to costs. Everyone wants to be out the door less than $10k and the cost of doing the cooling mods would definitely push the kit well over the $10k mark and its pretty labor intensive as in it would be a bitch to do in your garage. They have really pushed to make this a kit you can install in your garage in just a few hours. Flash your ecu and then go for a drive.

It truly is going to be a solid solution. Yeah you may have to cut the hood but in all honesty cutting the hood isn't a big deal for me or a lot of people. the stillen kit for the 350z required you to buy a hood or cut the oem one and they sold a **** ton of kits... now RJ MFG is looking at that and saying to themselves if it worked then it will work now.

We all wish we could get everything for super cheap but how many kits you know of are building everything out of billet aluminum with high precision and using high quality components? There are a ton of short cuts in the current supercharger offerings on the market and from sitting in on their meetings the RJ MFG guys aren't taking any shortcuts. Remember they have to make a profit to recoup costs and to fund new innovations... Lets just say the cost to Manufacture this kit is much much higher than stillen's or gamma! Even when buying in bulk!

They are using all billet AN fittings as well so go look up the price for 12AN billet fittings... $20+ each!!! and there are atleast 3 x 12AN lines in the kit... the intercooler is nearly $1k alone...

So while you guys may question their pricing and model know they are doing everything they can to make this affordable...

So stock cooling will be sufficient?

Possible engine cooling mod package as a separate item?

They dropped the cooling project completely... it would have redone all of your cooling lines on your motor. A complete overhaul! It wouldn't have been a profitable product due to the overall costs.

If they are dropping it - any chance you guys will release the details? You did call it "ingenious" so the information could be a big benefit to the community.

I'm not in a position to give out their proprietary information.

Quick question on the hood: By any wild chance, are there a few pieces of structural support for the hood frame that might be cut away to make it fit or would this definitely require a hole?

I ask because I ended up having to do that on my old Celica for a custom kit, and other than the missing piece, the hood was plenty sturdy and fit perfectly, no outer hole needed.

The concept is cool, but it's going to be a tough sell. Stillen sold a bunch of superchargers because it was fairly inexpensive and they offered an aftermarket hood option. Even if you offer a hood option for this kit, at 10k it's going to truly be a tough market. I've seen a lot of people wanting to walk out the door installed and tuned at 10k, it's just not feasible. It's a bad *** concept and I do hope they go through with it, however you're in the twin turbo market at this point.

I personally will be in the market for a supercharger eventually and have been looking for another option besides Stillen and Gamma, so this is definitely on my radar. If it can perform as promised and the hood looks good, 10K is not is not unreasonable.

People seem to be bickering a lot about price. Owning a 370Z for starters isn't considered cheap. I expect any forced induction to cost a "certain" amount of money and usually to cost more than anticipated anyway. We should all have massive boners for the fact that a company is producing a kit and hopefully turns out more supportive than GTM. I for one am excited, I expect to pay a, "pretty penny" to eventually boost my Z. It's a fact of life. We don't all own Civics here.

I don't see how anyone could realistically expect to boost a Z for under $10k out the door. If you're out the door under 15k consider yourself lucky.

There is nothing cheap about FI. Whether its the cost of the kit or support mods to make thing safe and keep it together.

You want to play with more power? You have to pay the price OR you may go BOOM. There are no short cuts in a FI survivor game.

ROFL .......

Seen that once with a Honda turbo setup. Wish I had the camera lol

That will probably be me. I managed to boost under 10k.

He doesn't even react to the explosion. Almost like he was expecting it.

chuck33079 - I don't see how anyone could realistically expect to boost a Z for under $10k out the door. If you're out the door under 15k consider yourself lucky.

6200$ installed for stillen supercharger. +500$ for dyno tune. sure wish rjm had theres made before I bought mine tho :(

Then you skipped a LOT of supporting mods. Also, Stillen is junk unless you throw out the water-to-air intercooler and upgrade it. Otherwise it's a time bomb. There's a reason Stillen kits destroy motors at a far higher rate than other kits. Also, those numbers you dropped mean you must have already had an upgraded clutch, exhaust, etc. Owning a Stillen kit as it was shipped just shows an almost astounding lack of research. You should get in touch with TopgunZ for what you need to correct the critical flaws of that kit, or you may be shortblock shopping before you want to.

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It can be done for 10k, but you have to do the labor yourself and try to save money where you can. It's easy when you are spending thousands of dollars to do something like spend a couple of extra hundred bucks for a really nice boost gauge - but stuff like that adds up pretty quickly. It also depends on what your use of the car is going to be... If you are tracking the car, you are probably also looking at upgrading brakes, suspension, and LSD... in my case I am just building a fast street car and I haven't felt any shortcomings with the extra power from my stock sport suspension and brakes.

BP Kit - $7000 (remove the Uprev license from the package)
Z1 Clutch/Flywheel - $750
HD CSC - $300
Ecutek License/Tune - $900
Cheap Boost Gauge - $100
Cheap Cat-back Exhaust - $600
Cheap Test Pipes - $150
= $9800
(Probably a little over 10k after shipping)

This represents probably the minimum equipment to get this done while still getting some bang for your buck and getting all brand new equipment. Much more can be saved if you wait for sales and are willing to buy parts second hand - I have a good bit less than 10k spent in going boosted. We could argue for days on whether this is really enough "supporting mods"...but I am at 10k boosted miles with essentially this barebones of a setup and am perfectly happy with the results. I recently changed my Diff bushings, but the OEM were still intact, believe it or not... and since this is a mod you are likely to have to do regardless of boosting, I did not include it in the list. You can all reserve the right to laugh in my face when I am the guy in the GIF above.