Forced Induction Reliability

cossie1600

It's a noble idea except not many people knows what they are doing and they just end up wasting money and time.

Factory cars are almost always more reliable, I am not sure where you are getting the unreliable part from?

theDreamer

Oil temp issue
Fuel starvation
Brake fade

All from a factory car.
Many cars have issues when thrown on the track which cause reliability issues which then require you to mod the car to fix.

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cossie1600

how many times have you been to the track? you do know all cars will need some basic stuff right?

theDreamer

Not with the SC because mine is not prepped yet.
I still need better brakes, running on the OEM pads (deciding what level I want) and need Nissan to replace my transmission before I start romping around.
That is my point, you were saying just buy a car and call it a day but all cars need prep (minus a handful). NA or FI neither is reliable so you coming in saying if you want to track do not buy FI is just wrong and since you have not provided any info other than agreeing it cost money then thank you. Also, have you boosted a Z and ran it around the track yet?

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cossie1600

what you mentioned are track necessity and car design flaws. what happens when you go fi? everything magnify and become worse. what are my chances blowing an engine, losing a fitting, blowing a hose than you? much less.

and lets not even get into the prep work on brakes and suspension

theDreamer

The bold part is still required for NA.
Also, you still have the same issues with a NA car, you can easily blow a hose or even your engine. VQ is known for having some engine oil issues or you push it to hard in the heat and your radiator gets dinged with road debris you seize up. FI v. NA is not some huge leaping step if prep is done. With a NA car you are still going to have to prepare and be ready the same with FI. At the end of the day I spent more money though though, that is it, we both still prepare.

Which returns me to your original point:

That is wrong.

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cossie1600

Spend some time at the track days and you will see why.

Btw, you are right that you can certainly make it reliable if you are willing to spend tons of money and basically bring a shop with you. But then at that point, is it really worth while to keep the car? Just buy a faster one to start.

theDreamer

I have spent plenty of time at the track, I just have yet to run my boosted Z.
Plenty of friends with 350z who are boosted who run all day without issues, only bringing themselves and some tools. Hate to break it to you, but it is not some magical fairy dust you need to run a boosted Z car at the track. It just takes knowledge and prep (and some money) and you are fine, nothing much more than running a NA Z around all day.

Maybe you should spent sometime at the track with a few boost Z owners and see how they do?

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cossie1600

Yeah you are right I don't spend enough time at the track, but then somehow there is a youtube video of me running a STOCK 350z (with brake pads) passing a heavily modified 350z with APS turbo at VIR (HP track). Given that he is a good driver and I have no idea what I am doing, is it okay to blame it on the car?!?

VIR Full Course - November 20th - Adam's 350Z - 2 of 2 - YouTube (start @ 1:43)

Is that not enough? How about an angle from a stock 350z passing a turbocharged 350z? 1106_VIR_350z_Lap_Behind_350z.mpg - YouTube
I think I could have gone faster if I didn't have a student in the car and I spend too much time explaining to him why the other 350 didn't move down the straightaway.

If that is not enough, how about results from a time trial where two turbocharged VQ running 600HP lost to my stock 400HP Corvette running on OEM run-flats in my class? To your point, there was a G35 in the modified class with a turbo that beat me by 5 sec, but it sure is nice to be a shop car and run brand new slicks while I am stuck on run flats.

Anyway, you are absolutely right that you can run a FI car at the track. You just have to know what you are doing (most people don't)and prepare to spend some major coins. By the time you are done with it, you will realize you can be driving a faster car to start with. That is assuming the car can finish 4 sessions at the track.

(I made the mistake once it costed me $20K, never again!)

TerribleONE

Damn... guess I better tell Tony to take my TT kit off after he prototypes it...

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falconfixer

TerribleONE

hes just jelly clearly...

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JB-370z

We clearly have a few dip$hits that dont know what they are talking about. Pulling fake made up on the fly statistics out of their a$$.

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Staples

>> Get Car Properly Tuned Whether N/A or FI
>> Run race gas or Methanol
>> Drop Cylinder Temps
>>???
>> Profit

Plenty of stock internal Zs track their car without issues, boosted or not. Whoever is "pulling" statistics like these, needs to get their facts straight.

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Mr.Squeeze

Couldnt have said it any better my self

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