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I am in the middle of installing my supercharger. The instructions have the oil cooler placed in the wheel well. doing a quick mock up it appears I can put

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Old 04-22-2016, 06:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am in the middle of installing my supercharger. The instructions have the oil cooler placed in the wheel well. doing a quick mock up it appears I can put it in the normal location (in front of the condensor).

My brother's BP turbo kit has it in between the radiator and IC. So I know itīs a viable option as long as I can make it all fit. He doesn't have a CSF radiator (yet) like I do, but so far his oil and water temps seem to be fine, not sure a intake temps. He hasn't had a chance to push it in hot weather though. We have barely cracked the 80s in NC, so far.

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Cons for in the wheel well are:
-Have to make some extended hoses. Not a huge deal, but why spend money if you don't have to.
-The biggest being the lack of airflow. So it needs a fan and vents in the fender liner, at a minimum.


What would the cons of having it behind the IC be?
This is what I have so far, just not sure how big of a concern they actually are
-Less airflow to the radiator
-More heat near the IC / heatsoak

Thoughts? Where would you put it?
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I have my 34 row from Fast Intentions directly behind the IC and in front of the radiator. I live in Guam where it's 80-90*F tropical weather year round. There's a lot of stop and go traffic and I daily my car with spirited driving every now and then and hit the track every month....Oil and Coolant Temps have been good...Coolant temps get as high as 199*F and oil temps don't pass 200*F when I push the car hard or track it.
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I have my 34 row from Fast Intentions directly behind the IC and in front of the radiator. I live in Guam where it's 80-90*F tropical weather year round. There's a lot of stop and go traffic and I daily my car with spirited driving every now and then and hit the track every month....Oil and Coolant Temps have been good...Coolant temps get as high as 199*F and oil temps don't pass 200*F when I push the car hard or track it.
That is great feedback. I think I am going to try it out. I can always move it later.

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On my boosted G35 (supercharger, then twin turbo), I had my coolers in both locations that you're considering. The wheel well is the best location, provided you can get air flow to it. I don't know what bumper and/or ducting options you 370z guys have, but I can tell you from experience that you will have better temps if you can avoid putting heat exchangers in front of one another.
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I have a 34 row setrab cooler behind the bumper under the driver side headlight. Wasn't able to fit it between the radiator and intercooler. I didn't route hoses or install a fan. I just vented the fender liner and removed the side plastic pieces in the front bumper. It still helped my engine temps quite a bit.
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I mounted my oil cooler on drivers side in front of wheel well and then took a dremel and cut long slats into fender liner behind cooler to dissipate heat,can't even see the vents with wheel in place.
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On my boosted G35 (supercharger, then twin turbo), I had my coolers in both locations that you're considering. The wheel well is the best location, provided you can get air flow to it. I don't know what bumper and/or ducting options you 370z guys have, but I can tell you from experience that you will have better temps if you can avoid putting heat exchangers in front of one another.
This was my concern as well. Stacking a bunch of heat in one spot.

I am using the stock 370z bumper so air flow to the wheel wells is limited and there is also a supercharger oil cooler to contend with which mounts to that drivers side wheel well also.

Ultimately I think I will have the most confidence in having the oil and SC coolers mounted in the wheel well with fans helping to cool them out of a vented fender liner.

However I feel comfortable putting it together with the oil cooler behind the IC for now. The custom brackets will have to wait til after ZdayZ.
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You'll be fine....I'm in hot humid tropical weather and have been running this set up for a year....I know.someone here that ran it behind the wheel well and it ran hotter without fans....ended up relocating it to the front between the radiator and IC.
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Both my oil coolers sit behind the Intercooler and I have never once had an issue...
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I am curious if it will fit, it might be tight with how far back the SC intercooler sits versus most turbo setups. Also, I run mine under the driver side with no venting of the liner or fan and in Texas heat without issues.

If you get it to work, I would like to see some photos as mine is all torn up right now and might move it. Always prefer shorter lines if possible and if no negative with airflow.
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If you get it to work, I would like to see some photos as mine is all torn up right now and might move it. Always prefer shorter lines if possible and if no negative with airflow.
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Been busy lately, have all the parts minus fuel items I need.
Kozmic told me they were going to do ECUtek and would get me a tune & fuel item quote but every week I bug them they say next week.

I just need to knock out the parts I have, SC, new piping, etc. and then figure out fuel afterwards.
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Been busy lately, have all the parts minus fuel items I need.

Kozmic told me they were going to do ECUtek and would get me a tune & fuel item quote but every week I bug them they say next week.



I just need to knock out the parts I have, SC, new piping, etc. and then figure out fuel afterwards.

You could have Ecutek from Johnny right now
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I will be tackling it this weekend. I will post the outcome. If I can get it to work I am gonna sandwich it in there. If not I guess I will be making some extended lines
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So you are mounting it behind your IC or somewhere else? I have mine in between the IC and Radiator (just like my previous setup and a few others) and there are no issues.

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