Topgunz - air to air upgrade

TopgunZ · 02-01-2017, 07:51 AM

Hahaha.. Understatement. That Tial is one loud sumumabitch. And you will hear the sc more also.

So what did Ecutek say about the software/hardware?

BOLIO 671 · 02-01-2017, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nic370

I have just spoken to my tunner
My cars back on the dyno today so I should find out if it's made any difference swapping the tial around

Side note he said my whole system south ds a lot louder than before
Couldn't specify which bit tho
I assumed this was from the different intercooler/filter set up

Anyone notice there car sounding different with the a2a kit compared to stillen ?

Yes...the charger/blower is more distinct....u can definitely tell it's not just bolt on under the hood. With the Tial ur gonna make more noise..Lol

TopgunZ · 02-01-2017, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bewhitey

had a local shop weld on an aluminum plate on the front of my manifold today. Turned out nice!

Was this strictly for looks? Going to paint it black?

BOLIO 671 · 02-01-2017, 08:10 AM

For those of u that have done the Tial upgrade did u just buy ur couplers foe the new flange pipe locally? I've noticed different styles of couplers being used. MilkCows coupler looks like it's flexible.

nic370 · 02-01-2017, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Hahaha.. Understatement. That Tial is one loud sumumabitch. And you will hear the sc more also.

So what did Ecutek say about the software/hardware?

I assume it's ok if he's going back on the dyno.
Hopefully hear later if the tial being the other way around was the issue or not
Fingers crossed it was or I'll be searching under the hood for every possible point of vibration
But we took great care to make sure nothing was touching

TopgunZ · 02-01-2017, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

For those of u that have done the Tial upgrade did u just buy ur couplers foe the new flange pipe locally? I've noticed different styles of couplers being used. MilkCows coupler looks like it's flexible.

Are you using the "T" coupler with 1" adapter and looking to swap to Tial?

If so, you should just let me send you the 60* with 2.75" pipe to reducer coupler to Tial flange to hump hose.

I improved the kit with this setup so it fits up better now instead of fighting that 45* off the volute.

milkcow500 · 02-01-2017, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

For those of u that have done the Tial upgrade did u just buy ur couplers foe the new flange pipe locally? I've noticed different styles of couplers being used. MilkCows coupler looks like it's flexible.

Unfortunately mine fell under the issue on when TopGunz was talking about issues with the treadstone FMIC mounting points being different. My setup shifted a bit, so I needed a bit more flexibility in my system due to clearance with my bumper.

I had to test a few setups, but the current one you see in the pic has been working out for me pretty well.

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bewhitey · 02-01-2017, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Was this strictly for looks? Going to paint it black?

For looks and to make it more permanent than bolting a plate with gasket sealer... not sure if I am going to paint it

As far as tial instructions, I wish I would have kept them, it looked like a tiny scribble on a napkin that showed absolutely no direction, just where to put it in relation to the supercharger and intake.

I did find this dimensional drawing on tial's website that clearly shows it setup as option A. They had like a dozen different drawings and never had the diffuser on the other side. So looks like I will be flipping it back

BOLIO 671 · 02-02-2017, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Are you using the "T" coupler with 1" adapter and looking to swap to Tial?

If so, you should just let me send you the 60* with 2.75" pipe to reducer coupler to Tial flange to hump hose.

I improved the kit with this setup so it fits up better now instead of fighting that 45* off the volute.

Yes Topz...I am currently on the T Coupler...using the stock Bosch BPV....I ordered all the stuff for the Tial that u suggested....I would appreciate the 60* pipe upgrade...Lmk what the cost and shipping will cost so I can PayPal u the funds

nic370 · 02-02-2017, 12:16 PM

I've just had this email from my mapper ........

We have been mapping the car on road (dyno has been tied up) and it would appear the dv change has helped. We have just put it on the dyno now to give it some power runs but the first run, although much better, is still pulling a lot of timing out above 4,000rpm. I have made a couple of changes and will try again now then again in the morning.

So it looks like I have still got a few issues but the tial defo seems better lay on its side

Picture A I think it was

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TopgunZ · 02-02-2017, 12:30 PM

You are SD MAP tuning right? Are they MAF tuning at WOT at all?

nic370 · 02-02-2017, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

You are SD MAP tuning right? Are they MAF tuning at WOT at all?

Not last time he used maffs at low rpm and then
Sd at higher rpm because of turbulence from the maffs on the stock stillen set up

So I assume he's doing the same now

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TopgunZ · 02-02-2017, 12:58 PM

Ok. Because stock mafs will max out around 9psi. But if he is hybrid tuning then thats not an issue.

nic370 · 02-02-2017, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Ok. Because stock mafs will max out around 9psi. But if he is hybrid tuning then thats not an issue.

Ahh I see
He's a good tuner one off the best in uk so hopefully whatever the issues are he can work threw them
He did mention before that the ecu keept dropping load but hasn't said this again so hopefully whatever that issue was its gone

What psi would he see with the stock pulley ?

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TopgunZ · 02-02-2017, 01:34 PM

With test pipes, free flowing exhaust and sci trim then under 8.

With cats and stock exhaust then over 8.

02-01-2017, 07:51 AM	#1441 (permalink)
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nic370 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: uk Posts: 187 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 10	I've just had this email from my mapper ........ We have been mapping the car on road (dyno has been tied up) and it would appear the dv change has helped. We have just put it on the dyno now to give it some power runs but the first run, although much better, is still pulling a lot of timing out above 4,000rpm. I have made a couple of changes and will try again now then again in the morning. So it looks like I have still got a few issues but the tial defo seems better lay on its side Picture A I think it was Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk bewhitey likes this.

02-02-2017, 12:30 PM	#1451 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6833	You are SD MAP tuning right? Are they MAF tuning at WOT at all? __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

02-02-2017, 12:58 PM	#1453 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6833	Ok. Because stock mafs will max out around 9psi. But if he is hybrid tuning then thats not an issue. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

02-02-2017, 01:34 PM	#1455 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6833	With test pipes, free flowing exhaust and sci trim then under 8. With cats and stock exhaust then over 8. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

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