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swiss370Z 05-05-2016 12:31 PM

Great :tup::tup:

TopgunZ 05-05-2016 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ84 (Post 3474882)
E85

See I dont get how cars/tuners differ so much. You apparently have enough fuel to even have it a little on the RICH side and im on the lean side and we have identical fuel setups. :ugh2:

Pauly Z 05-05-2016 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3474937)
See I dont get how cars/tuners differ so much. You apparently have enough fuel to even have it a little on the RICH side and im on the lean side and we have identical fuel setups. :ugh2:

Are you still using stock fuel pressure regulator on your return setup?

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jwick 05-05-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3474937)
See I dont get how cars/tuners differ so much. You apparently have enough fuel to even have it a little on the RICH side and im on the lean side and we have identical fuel setups. :ugh2:



It's got to be all in timing. Some tuners are more aggressive than others.

StillenZ84 05-05-2016 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3474937)
See I dont get how cars/tuners differ so much. You apparently have enough fuel to even have it a little on the RICH side and im on the lean side and we have identical fuel setups. :ugh2:

Yeah its pretty odd Id say. Unless Ecutek has a few more fuel adjustment settings over Uprev. Obviously Seb specializes in Zs so we have been saying all along he probably knows a few tricks other tuners don't.

TBatt 05-05-2016 03:42 PM

My Stillen SC kit arrived on Tuesday. I'm on the waiting list for TopgunZ's kit. I might just pee in my pants from the excitement!

Rusty 05-05-2016 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3475026)
My Stillen SC kit arrived on Tuesday. I'm on the waiting list for TopgunZ's kit. I might just pee in my pants from the excitement!

Was going to post a picture, BUT my wife is within eye sight of my computer screen. :eek: :rofl2:

YzGyz 05-06-2016 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3475220)
Was going to post a picture, BUT my wife is within eye sight of my computer screen. :eek: :rofl2:

Just show her your Big PIPE. .. :icon23: you will be ok..

YzGyz

BOLIO 671 05-06-2016 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3474937)
See I dont get how cars/tuners differ so much. You apparently have enough fuel to even have it a little on the RICH side and im on the lean side and we have identical fuel setups. :ugh2:

Seb is traditionally conservative when he it comes to remote tuning F.I. motors......he's more focused on getting a clean and reliable tune on the cars he tunes which is why he tends to be a little on the rich side....not too rich but rich enough to avoid problems.

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3474998)
It's got to be all in timing. Some tuners are more aggressive than others.

:iagree:

milkcow500 05-06-2016 09:06 AM

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I should be ready for tuning by tomorrow. Apparently some fabrication is necessary in order to fit the piping on the throttle body side after the y-pipe (For the G37). I'm waiting for pics from the shop to see how they had to route the piping.

omG37S 05-06-2016 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by milkcow500 (Post 3475481)
I should be ready for tuning by tomorrow. Apparently some fabrication is necessary in order to fit the piping on the throttle body side after the y-pipe (For the G37). I'm waiting for pics from the shop to see how they had to route the piping.

****... that's what I was worried about. Please keep me informed of what all needs to be done. This may actually require me to find a different shop to install everything.

ANMVQ 05-06-2016 10:11 AM

looking good man, duck tape FTW, LOL

TopgunZ 05-06-2016 12:19 PM

Interested to see this too. I highly doubt they have to cut that Y-pipe and its a single piece all the way from throttle bodies to intercooler with just one coupler in-between. Make sure you get good pics of the coupler off the intercooler to the Y as that will be covered up once the bumper is back on but the rest you can take pictures of later yourself.

TopgunZ 05-06-2016 03:44 PM

False alarm on the G37 install. I got some pictures and the shop had the brackets on upside down and flip flopped!!!! That is why it didn't fit up.

omG37S 05-06-2016 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3475740)
False alarm on the G37 install. I got some pictures and the shop had the brackets on upside down and flip flopped!!!! That is why it didn't fit up.

Whew! Thank you, Jesus!

mikey1600 05-07-2016 04:55 AM

I have to catch up on many pages :) haha will do tonight!

BOLIO 671 05-11-2016 07:37 AM

Topz were u able to get Vids and logs of ur AIT'S with some spirited driving yet?

TopgunZ 05-11-2016 08:56 AM

No. I suck. I promise to make a video of this by the weekend.

milkcow500 05-11-2016 10:19 AM

Mine should be on the dyno tomorrow, so I'll try and get some videos up.

StillenZ84 05-11-2016 12:28 PM

Weather here has put a huge damper on finishing my tune. There have been tornados and thunderstorms non-stop and not suppose to stop for the next 7 days. Was planning on going to the dyno this weekend but we will see if it happens or not.

jwick 05-11-2016 12:38 PM

That will happen in OK.

StillenZ84 05-11-2016 12:42 PM

Yeah lived here my whole life and hate this time of year.

jwick 05-11-2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ84 (Post 3478274)
Yeah lived here my whole life and hate this time of year.



Born in Wichita Falls so I understand.

YzGyz 05-11-2016 03:29 PM

I have a close buddy in OKC that I visit.I have a blast everytime I drive up there. He's an Executive Chef and owns Bon jour. The man can cook some serious good food!! All I do is eat, drink and eat some more when I visit him. And the girls in OKC and hot!

YzGyz

BOLIO 671 05-11-2016 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3478140)
No. I suck. I promise to make a video of this by the weekend.

:rofl2:

mikey1600 05-12-2016 09:48 AM

Okay so read the whole thread again! great results so far and looking good.

Next question ;) are either of the 2 guys you are shipping to running standard stillen kit pump and injectors and going to be using pump fuel?

I'm wanting to get this kit asap but also want to upgrade to E85, wondering if it's worth saving a little and getting the kit along with new pump/injectors (wedding next year ughhhh..) or just get the kit and chuck it on now and re-tune..

TopgunZ 05-12-2016 11:57 AM

StillenZ84 is running ID1000's with a 340lph pump and CJM S1 return on E85 and he has enough fuel. This is also my exact setup.

I actually cant remember Milkcow's setup but I think he is the exact same. I know he just put on the S1 kit also when he did the A2A conversion.

It is still to be determined if the Stillen kits injectors and pump can handle the power. I have no way of testing this. I know 100% for sure it will not support E85 though.

I do know if you swap to larger injectors and pump you will not need a return system for pump gas.

EVOHUNTER 05-12-2016 01:43 PM

We will know very soon, im on dyno next weekend

milkcow500 05-12-2016 04:04 PM

I'm running ID1300, 340lph pump, and the S1 fuel return with the A2A conversion. It's probably better to be safe than sorry if you intend on doing the conversion. E85 also needs 30% more fuel, so you'll have to upgrade eventually.

TopgunZ 05-12-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by milkcow500 (Post 3479185)
I'm running ID1300, 340lph pump, and the S1 fuel return with the A2A conversion. It's probably better to be safe than sorry if you intend on doing the conversion. E85 also needs 30% more fuel, so you'll have to upgrade eventually.

I should start writing things down. Do you have the SI upgraded trim?

milkcow500 05-12-2016 05:15 PM

Nope. SCI V3, 9psi pulley (2.75"), and K&N filter. Starting with 93 pump fuel and moving onto E85 once they start producing the new S1 fuel return kit.

mikey1600 05-12-2016 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by milkcow500 (Post 3479221)
Nope. SCI V3, 9psi pulley (2.75"), and K&N filter. Starting with 93 pump fuel and moving onto E85 once they start producing the new S1 fuel return kit.

Cool this is what I'm looking for, as I'll be the same to start with then upgrade to E85 later most likely, are you going to be using the same dyno for comparison?

TopgunZ 05-13-2016 07:40 AM

Now that we have a way to keep the temps cool and reliability to the stillen kit has skyrocketed, the Si trim will really take advantage of this kit. I wouldn't recommend the 9psi pulley with the Si trim on the water cooled system but this A2A kit is just begging for it.

milkcow500 05-13-2016 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600 (Post 3479351)
Cool this is what I'm looking for, as I'll be the same to start with then upgrade to E85 later most likely, are you going to be using the same dyno for comparison?

Yes I will be.

mikey1600 05-13-2016 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3479473)
Now that we have a way to keep the temps cool and reliability to the stillen kit has skyrocketed, the Si trim will really take advantage of this kit. I wouldn't recommend the 9psi pulley with the Si trim on the water cooled system but this A2A kit is just begging for it.

Sent you a PM about pricing/shipping to me etc.. :)

omG37S 05-13-2016 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by milkcow500 (Post 3479221)
Nope. SCI V3, 9psi pulley (2.75"), and K&N filter. Starting with 93 pump fuel and moving onto E85 once they start producing the new S1 fuel return kit.

In your MyG37 thread, it said you still did have problems making this a2a kit fit and custom fabricating was indeed needed.

Also, what's the holdup on the S1 fuel return kit? I'm the other G37 coupe trying to get all of this done right the first time.

Luckily there is an e85 pump near my house, so that's a plus, but, realistically, what am I to gain from e85 over 93 pump?

I will be getting the V3 with 9lb pulley, ID100, and 340lph. Just want to make sure the extra needed for e85 is worth it...

TopgunZ 05-13-2016 03:36 PM

I talked to him about this last night. He sent me some pics of how they cut into the y pipe where it fits up to the intercooler and they already had it cut and rewelded to accommodate the fact they had the brackets on wrong prior to putting the brackets on right.

SO.... We still do not know 100% if the kit will fit perfectly up with a G. However, I really think it will.

EVOHUNTER 05-13-2016 04:14 PM

there shouldn't be anything different, the install instructions are the same.

the only thing that is different is the front rad support, you might need to cut more away, but otherwise there shouldn't be any issues.

The g37 engine bay does seem a little bit narrower, but we know they use the same intake pipe from stillen kit on the g37/370z

milkcow500 05-13-2016 05:17 PM

Yeah there's no 100% way of what happened unfortunately. Here's how it went down.

1. Installed FMIC brackets upside-down.
2. Shop decided to cut/weld an extension on the bottom of the Y-pipe to get it to fit.
3. Informed the shop that the FMIC brackets are upside-down.
4. Shop flipped ONLY the passenger side bracket - Not sure if they really did anything (Doesn't really matter at this point because the Y-pipe was altered).
5. One pipe now won't align with the throttle body.
6. Welded an extension on that pipe in order to fit.

My shop works on a LOT of 370z's and they told me that the G37 has less room in the front. Not sure if this is true, but we won't really know until the next guy tries. I went to the shop and took a look at the front and I really don't see a crazy difference, then again I'm no expert. I honestly feel like it will fit with either much less fabrication or without any at all.

I intend on going E85 next month. I highly suggest it as it makes a world of difference in terms of power.

BOLIO 671 05-13-2016 08:04 PM

Hey Topz.... Are your kits in yet? I'm just waiting on EVOHUNTERS results as I am on the stock Stillen Pump and Injectors with a 9lb pulley...If the Stillen fuel set up won't work I will have to factor upgrading the fuel system which isn't a big priority for me since on Guam they only sale 91 at the pump. I have no access to E85 and honestly dont think that will ever be an option here. I have a tune for race fuel but I only pour that into the tank when I'm gonna hit the track.....other than that she's always drinking 91.


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