Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 3323575)

Sorry, thought you were directing that towards me. You weren't?

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3323559)

Again Reading comprehension fail!!!!!

We are stating you have to go get yours if you want yours. But also note this company is a new company with the only link to the old GTM was the bought intellectual Property.....

Yes you can raise your voice all you want but there will be a point that you will do more harm than good! When a Company sees a Market as unfavorable they move on and all those who were trying to get reperations get screwed because you had a chip on your shoulder trying to save the whole world.

So to the audience reading this thread: You have a few choices...

1. Keep a calm head and read the facts laid out in this thread by me and several others who actually knew what was going on. Make an educated decision and buy through an intermediary like Todd @ vivid

2. Grab your pitchfork and burn all the bridges without giving the company a chance to rectify the situation. Like Zbrah is doing...

3. Stay silent and watch it unfold.

The choice is yours...

Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3323584)

You do realize there is a sticky at the top of this forum that states: "Gamma = GTM".?

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3323591)

which is inaccurate... Do you believe everything on the internet? If So I have a bridge I can sell you.... Good deal for you good deal for me!:bowrofl:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3323580)

no you're just pushing shit off your shelves. you have SC kits - people want SC kits - you want to make you money off said SC kits.

technically you're in the group of people out money/parts too, am I correct?

your posts sound like hopeful optimism that you can be made whole and also some marketing to keep possible customers coming that the warranties and replacement parts are available.

if I have something wrong here let me know.

Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3323594)

But you are telling me it's inaccurate over the internet? Inception?!?!?

My point was you can't blame people for associating the new shop with the old. Especially when an admin sticked a thread that states they are the same shop. Hiring the dude who ran the old shop wasn't the smartest idea either.

Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 3323596)

I hope whatever has made you so angry in life has also made you look for a way to find happiness again soon.

Technically my company has been outed money and product. Both appear to be whole again however that remains to be seen once I start getting some kits sold.

My posts are to let people know what's going on between Gamma and my company, to let them know product is available for purchase with an added discount that I am passing on to the first 6 kits sold. I would call that sales, which is what I am here to do. When I have a product like a supercharger that's been incomplete sitting on a shelf for over a year, my boss wants it gone, even more now because it is complete and Gamma has agreed to warranty it.

I don't need you to be OK with it, I don't need you to buy it but if all you want to do is talk down to me for trying to do my job, then do us both a favor and don't talk to me or about me and we will get along just great.

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3323578)

we are saying call them...

Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3323554)

I also stated earlier that those numbers are for the people of the group buy that said that they paid 7k-8.5k upfront that did not get anything. If you base it off the general consensus that a single TT kit from a non-group buy costs 10k. So yeah for people who do not have any piece of their kit, another payment may have to be made because Sam's scam was a Group Buy discounted price of which I do not believe Gamma Motors will honor because then at that point they are literally handing out new kits to unhappy GTM customers.
But for that point you stated; if you can get it completed cheaper elsewhere do so and it is a win win for you (the OP of the missing SC and piping) at that point besides being ripped off by Sam. You (the OP of the missing SC and piping) avoid Gamma's $2200 and you don't have to wait in line with the lawsuits (although if you have it completed and want to try and get the money you spent to complete the kit reimbursed I would suggest so)

Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3323621)

People should buy the Stillen sc kit at least those guys delivers what you pay for!

Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3323622)

:drama:

This is some Jerry Springer sh!t up in here lmao.... I'm done re-stating facts to the some that just do not get it... :inoutroflpuke:


@ Jwick



Please re-read, First paragraph is for the topic of a buyers who did not get anything.
Second paragraph is for the topic of the $2200 quoted for the SC and piping for the one OP that had this issue.

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3323599)

there was no anger in my posts towards you/vivid. simply just statements in regard to you thinking i'm bad mouthing you, your company, etc.

everything you just said is what I said in the previous post to you....but long winded. what was your goal or point with that? take my good points and word them as your own because they were in fact good points?

I don't care what you do honestly. I never had an issue but you're really driving it to be one. also in doing so not really making yourself nor the company you work for look good in the process. trust me just move along from whatever your issue is with me. not sure why or where it came from since I never spoke ill about you or vivid.

:tiphat:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3323550)

Reading Comprehension FAIL...:shakes head:

No one has stated they receive priority treatment based on amounts paid. However, what was stated is that because we spent so much money we made it a priority to know the interworkings of that company. This comes from building relationships and having constant communications... Usually meaning if GTM didnt answer the phone or we werent able to get the answer we wanted. We called up again that same day, we sent email follow ups after every call. We travelled out to the shop... On big builds like mine and Zeliminator this is almost a must no matter who is building your car.

This isnt being condescending this is being real! yeah someone may have lost $5k but does that compare to $26k like Zeliminator? are you really comparing the two? When I stated that those who spent more and are on the hook for more arent running for the pitchforks and are not blaming Gamma. We are taking a more rational and logical approach. By all means blame Gamma all you want. but facts are facts you can ignore them all you want and all it will do is make you look the fool.

I am taking a calmer head to the situation because I consider my money lost and anything I get in return is only a bonus! Do I want a full refund? HELL YEAH! Will I get the full refund? NO... Its a reality I have come to grips with. Call it lessons learned and I do all my own work now.

IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM ARE THEY LIABLE MORALLY OR LEGALLY!!! THEY BOUGHT INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY!

Your whole premise is based on inaccurate information what you see and hear on the forum. If they bought the business from Sam including assets then yes they would have a liability both legally and morally. Sam tried to sell the business several times and couldnt reach agreements with any of the possible buyers. I was not trying to put this out there but The only deal he could bring down was just for the intellectual rights and the relationships with manufacturers. This is based on the second hand information I received from insiders.



Tiller, Have you called them? Have you emailed them about your situation and sent them the invoices? I had to take the first steps to even get a response.

If we dont do the due dillegence we cant expect a new company to go find every bad situation GTM did. Just as an FYI... Sam was a horrible record keeper from what I saw and heard and with his health situation it got way worse! You hoped something didnt get left on his desk. It was known by several people that anything that landed on his desk was lost forever.