^^ Remember that the $8,500 you paid was for a discounted group buy run by a scammer. Not retail price for a single Kit and not including any add-ons

Not once have you shown this is a fact. I can make any statement I want. Doesn't mean it's a fact.

I think that California smog is getting to you...:rofl2:

Reading is fundamental. The dude bought a SC. He was never part of the group buy and he paid full price.:tup:

No birdman it actually was not a group buy,I have receipt,it was thru Sam yes ,during the whole gamma take over,it was paid for end of November 2014,and I purchased a stage 2 complete sc kit and an oil cooler

So much for the theories that gamma only bought "intellectual properties" from gtm. Please continue to amuse us. We'd love to hear how gamma isn't holding parts owed to gtm's customers :facepalm:

Folk shouldn't have a word to say if they weren't effected by GTM/Sam Misdeeds. If you didn't spent any money in the Group Buy or elsewhere and didn't suffer any financial hardship from it. Then please stay quiet. Like I said before, "I was a victim of Sam ways" But I opted to not air it out in Public but rather deal with him in Private (I don't burn my bridges).

And if forums members want to engage in business with GammaMotors so be it. More options to select from, No one should tell the next man where to invest is money unless you providing him/her with that money. If not MYOB.

Actually Gamma Took over "I think" in Early Summer of this year.

You're right on that. Gamma came on the scene during the past couple months while gtm is still running its operation and pushing out whatever parts they can.

i can't agree with that... so if i know someone is going to take your money and run, i should stay quiet and let you lose your money?

that would be like me running away from a gunman and i see you running towards him, i should just stay quiet and let you get shot.

i can agree with some of the things that are being said, but that part i can't agree with even 1%

good deeds travel slow, while bad deeds are travel supersonic speed

Everyone's getting a little worked up over this situation.

lets be realistic here, in terms of law, Gamma doesn't owe anyone anything. It sucks to say, but its the truth :(

Gamma did not buy GTMs debt/short comings. If gamma goes around fixing all of GTM problems. They will go bankrupt, simple as that. So say they make everything right, they refund everyone's money, or ship the kits etc... They most likely will bankrupt, leaving everyone with a kit that is impossible to get parts etc.. Everyone's back at square 1.

Everyone needs to come to terms. GTM is done, its over, done.

Only time will tell if GAMMA is going to be a good company.

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That's why we're here. To show our support and making our voices heard to keep people from falling into the same trap. Much like how I've reached out privately to birdman and other members on several occasions to help with their issues and steering them from throwing their money away on bad deals. I will continue to do that whether some folks believe I should mind my own business. As long as I'm still a member of this community I will continue to do what I can to help people out.

Well reading is also fundamental to you Texans :tup: and not just read the parts you want to. You should also read that in my text I stated that it was a group buy with the figures I was working with and also a generalize consensus that a TT kit costs 10k with no addons. Not only that they are estimates. I have also stated in many other posts as bullitt has to CALL GAMMA MOTORS TO FIGURE OUT THE EXACT AND YES I SAY EXACT NUMBERS OF WHAT IT TAKES FOR YOU TO GET YOUR KIT

And you're going to say that I'm somehow stupid and do not know how to read due to the pollution of Southern California? And on top of it trying to just sit here and twist peoples' words after the specification multiple times on how the numbers are estimates and Gamma Motors should be called?... how cute! :bowrofl::tiphat:

[insert one of many Texan humiliation jokes]

Don't remember when I told everyone that my numbers should be written in stone and that I work for Gamma Motors and have the final say on everything cause I don't. Bullitt works closely with them still don't have any say on anything, because I don't, Just been trying to help people understand reasons on why things are happening like Bullitt. But looks like you cannot understand that side of reality.

I stand corrected on your situation Tiller. That is one of the grey area zones since it was in the process of the switch, I would definitely get in line with the Lawsuit against Sam. I would keep trying to get a hold of Gamma Motors and see about getting the 4k they want you to pay reduced by some point or have them provide and exact part for part invoice on why you owe them 4k for the kit. If you have recordings based off different dates recorded showing that there is misrepresented information in regards to how ready your kit is then you may have some leverage in the situation on price.

If you (anyone) ends up paying the extra amount to Gamma Motors I would add that number in on the amount that you are asking for in the Lawsuit against Sam

Just an idea :tup:

I am all with your Guy's 100% but the big picture is this Gamma Motors isn't GTM.

Two. Their is nothing wrong with Alerting people that a robbery is talking place, just make sure you're reporting the culprit and crime scene.

Third. IF members have placed a PA out and folks decided to ignore then let them deal with the problems themselves.

That is all I'm saying guys.

but what if Gamma is just GTM rebranded to get out of debt and public hatred?

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Gentlemen.
thank you for reading my posts.
all I want is my parts
they are all there in there shop except the block and I can get my hands on it.
I will pay for all the shipping and charges to pack it.
I do not want them to incur any costs.
I feel for all the people who lost money and parts. Everybody is important and should get what they paid for.
Big or small amounts of money and the parts that they bought.
There is a possibility that we all may get nothing .
But if the paid parts are in Gammas shop , they owe the parts to us.
even thought the kits may be incomplete.
They need to post on here, and be honest with us.
the truth may hurt, but if they come through for us im sure that we as a Z community will support them and make them prosper.

Ive bought a INGS+1 body kit from VIVID last year. It took a while to get to me and they got it to me. emailed and keep me in the loop.
With my dealings with them .I find them to be straight shooters and honest. I will always do business with them.

Z