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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3323661)

but what if Gamma is just GTM rebranded to get out of debt and public hatred?

:wtf2:

FPenvy; I Wholeheartedly don't think they are the same bro. They just made a bad decision by retaining Sam and allowing him to answer the phone.

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 3323664)

Gentlemen.
thank you for reading my posts.
all I want is my parts
they are all there in there shop except the block and I can get my hands on it.
I will pay for all the shipping and charges to pack it.
I do not want them to incur any costs.
I feel for all the people who lost money and parts. Everybody is important and should get what they paid for.
Big or small amounts of money and the parts that they bought.
There is a possibility that we all may get nothing .
But if the paid parts are in Gammas shop , they owe the parts to us.
even thought the kits may be incomplete.
They need to post on here, and be honest with us.
the truth may hurt, but if they come through for us im sure that we has a Z community will support them and make them proper.

Ive bought a INGS+1 body kit from VIVID last year. It took a while to get to me and they got it to me. emailed and keep me in the loop.
With my dealings with them .I find them to be straight shooters and honest. I will always do business with them.

Z

Gamma isn't allowed too on this Forum. So they can't make right or explain themselves. Due to them being guilty by association.

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3323661)

but what if Gamma is just GTM rebranded to get out of debt and public hatred?

:wtf2:

The debts would follow Sam since he was the head of the company. IF Sam rebranded to get away from debts and public hatred, having his name on anything would be dumb cause then Gamma would be stuck with the debts no matter what and Public hatred would still be thrown about like it still is.

Sam would be back at square 1 except he invested money to start a new business with a down payment and the investors spotted the rest and then he is still stuck with debt and now 2 bad reputation businesses.
Honestly I think Sam is finished selling parts and owning a business of the sort. I could see him getting a regular job after this all.

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Originally Posted by warpeacelove (Post 3323665)

FPenvy; I Wholeheartedly don't think they are the same bro. They just made a bad decision by retaining Sam and allowing him to answer the phone.

:iagree:

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 3323664)

Gentlemen.
thank you for reading my posts.
all I want is my parts
they are all there in there shop except the block and I can get my hands on it.
I will pay for all the shipping and charges to pack it.
I do not want them to incur any costs.
I feel for all the people who lost money and parts. Everybody is important and should get what they paid for.
Big or small amounts of money and the parts that they bought.
There is a possibility that we all may get nothing .
But if the paid parts are in Gammas shop , they owe the parts to us.
even thought the kits may be incomplete.
They need to post on here, and be honest with us.
the truth may hurt, but if they come through for us im sure that we as a Z community will support them and make them prosper.

Ive bought a INGS+1 body kit from VIVID last year. It took a while to get to me and they got it to me. emailed and keep me in the loop.
With my dealings with them .I find them to be straight shooters and honest. I will always do business with them.

Z

Question is have you been able to get in touch with anyone there today? I'm sure they are keeping tab on this thread and aware what's going on.

We can keep this thread going until someone there reach out to you man.

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Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3323659)

Well reading is also fundamental to you Texans :tup: and not just read the parts you want to. You should also read that in my text I stated that it was a group buy with the figures I was working with and also a generalize consensus that a TT kit costs 10k with no addons. Not only that they are estimates. I have also stated in many other posts as bullitt has to CALL GAMMA MOTORS TO FIGURE OUT THE EXACT AND YES I SAY EXACT NUMBERS OF WHAT IT TAKES FOR YOU TO GET YOUR KIT

And you're going to say that I'm somehow stupid and do not know how to read due to the pollution of Southern California? And on top of it trying to just sit here and twist peoples' words after the specification multiple times on how the numbers are estimates and Gamma Motors should be called?... how cute! :bowrofl::tiphat:

[insert one of many Texan humiliation jokes]

Don't remember when I told everyone that my numbers should be written in stone and that I work for Gamma Motors and have the final say on everything cause I don't. Bullitt works closely with them still don't have any say on anything, because I don't, Just been trying to help people understand reasons on why things are happening like Bullitt. But looks like you cannot understand that side of reality.

I stand corrected on your situation Tiller. That is one of the grey area zones since it was in the process of the switch, I would definitely get in line with the Lawsuit against Sam. I would keep trying to get a hold of Gamma Motors and see about getting the 4k they want you to pay reduced by some point or have them provide and exact part for part invoice on why you owe them 4k for the kit. If you have recordings based off different dates recorded showing that there is misrepresented information in regards to how ready your kit is then you may have some leverage in the situation on price.

If you (anyone) ends up paying the extra amount to Gamma Motors I would add that number in on the amount that you are asking for in the Lawsuit against Sam

Just an idea :tup:

I really don't want to go the lawsuit route,all I want is my kit,that's it,it will not bankrupt gamma to do the right thing here with me and others,there are many many other people just here where iam from awaiting to see my outcome and others to decide if they will buy from gamma or just go with another manufacturer,I will repeat myself again,if I receive my kit I will do more business,and tons more will to,iam sure gamma is reading all of this and they should

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Originally Posted by tiller (Post 3323675)

I just got off the phone with Gamma and relayed your problem. Can you give them a call. I want your issue to be addressed. PHONE +1 (909) 296-6300

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Originally Posted by warpeacelove (Post 3323684)

I just got off the phone with Gamma and relayed your problem. Can you give them a call. I want your issue to be addressed. PHONE +1 (909) 296-6300

I'd hope for a change they would be contacting me,this also has cost me a fortune in phone bills because I am in canada

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Originally Posted by tiller (Post 3323687)

I'd hope for a change they would be contacting me,this also has cost me a fortune in phone bills because I am in canada

Food 4 thought.

Download the google talk plugin (Google Voice) on your computer and utilize that to make a phone call to them.

:iagree:
Hope your situation gets handled tiller, try and work a deal and negotiate a bit :tup:

I just spoke to Gamma Motors
A very productive conversation.
it looks good
I will post later tonight .

Z eliminator

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 3323707)

I just spoke to Gamma Motors
A very productive conversation.
it looks good
I will post later tonight .

Z eliminator

:tup:

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Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3323704)

:iagree:
Hope your situation gets handled tiller, try and work a deal and negotiate a bit :tup:

Work what deal and negotiate what? The guy already paid the kit in full. They (gamma) already acknowledged they have most of his kit in hand, but will not ship out unless he want to put out $4,000 more if he wants it delivered to him right now :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by tiller (Post 3323627)

Yes bullitt I sent my receipt and called many times,they told me if I want my kit in 2weeks it will cost me an extra 4000$,or else I should just be patient and stop calling,wait till December or January and then maybe get the rest of my parts at that time,meaning they have a kit started of mine so they dident just buy INTELLECTUAL property they have my kit which they themselves say that have just isent finished,I will not bad mouth gamma until I find out for myself that I am out 8500 for sure and they themselves have scammed me like Sam did,AND I have recorded conversations with them saying my kit was 97 % finished,then they said 70% finished in another conversation,so if I have to fly to California I will but hopefully i don't have to spend more hard earned money on something I already paid for.

Well let me break it down for you then:

work a deal: if he ends up having to pay something for shipping, why not haggle a little to get the 4k down somewhat.
negotiate: its a verb and the definition is to arrange for or bring about discussion and settlement of terms.

So if you put the two together and if Gamma wants him to put in 4k to ship it, maybe I'm implying that if all else fails and he has to pay something to get it shipped why not try and get the price lower

:tup: :twocents:

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Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3323723)

And let me break it down to you.

Guy paid in full for a sc kit.

Gamma acknowledged they have his kit, most of it. Keep lying about how much of the kit is completed. Which makes me think they are shipping parts from his kit to fulfill other kits, possibly vivid for example.

Why do you keep insisting this guy should have to handle more money to get what's his? Put yourself in his shoes, would any of that make sense to you?

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Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3323723)

And I didn't ask for a definition what a deal is. Learn to read, Gavin.

My questions was what other deal is there to arrange and negotiate? This guy has already met his end of the contract. He paid in full. Gamma needs to meet their obligation and deliver what they owe to him.