Titek Dual Front Air Vents - Opinions

nogoodname · 07-03-2009, 06:02 PM

some simple nostrils closer to the emblems would help the G3's

M.Bonanni · 07-03-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

I'm not sure that the opening has to be right on top of the filter itself. This would create positive pressure behind the bumper which would help feed nice cool air into the filter.

I am a noob when it comes to aerodynamics so I may be completely off on this, but without that part of the bumper being sealed off I would think all of the pressure would bleed off down into the airstream coming through the front grille and not necessarily even get to the filters on the G3. Especially if the bend in the piping deflects the air towards the outside of the bumpers away from the filters. Again, I am an aero noob so if I am wrong just please explain why so I understand

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Here is a terrible rendering of what I picture in my head. The air going this way and then getting sucked down into the air stream going through the grille into the radiator instead of around to the filters.

RCZ · 07-03-2009, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich

I'm not sure that the opening has to be right on top of the filter itself. This would create positive pressure behind the bumper which would help feed nice cool air into the filter.

Meh I would rather have them flowing right onto the filters too...also air flows into low/negative pressure so you would want negative pressure back there, not positive. When I get a hold of a new bumper I'm going to get crazy on the stock one

nogoodname · 07-03-2009, 06:40 PM

here's my visual aide for you all
only drew one nostril as the one posted on here.

M.Bonanni · 07-03-2009, 06:44 PM

^^^ I'm pretty sure that is not accurately scaled. You would have to cut your headlights in that case.

Lets go off of this photo and your imagination on where the vents would go in relation to the headlights.

m4a1mustang · 07-03-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DDMotorsports

^^^ I'm pretty sure that is not accurately scaled. You would have to cut your headlights in that case.

Lets go off of this photo and your imagination on where the vents would go in relation to the headlights.

That pic right there backs up your drawing. You won't get much benefit from any direct airflow onto the filter... but it's always possible that the rush of fresh air into that area of the car would decrease the temp of the air being sucked in by the intakes and help a little bit.

IMO, those vents would be better with a setup like Steve's (Modshack). Just run some tubing from the vent to the airbox to get direct access to some fresh air.

nogoodname · 07-03-2009, 06:52 PM

Modshacks pipes would not work man, too many pipes in the front end.....modshack pipes for short tube and nostrils for long tube....

DDM, it still goes to the pipe....lol...you get the point here

Nikon FM · 07-03-2009, 07:51 PM

Off the top I can think of a couple things to consider:

The Stillen G3 intakes are tuned due to diameter, length, turbulence minimizing...just to name a few parameters.

More flow going into a "compartment" will cause an increase in pressure.

Especially under load the intake will draw air in.

My thought is that the front compartment may not be ambient temperature but it will be cooler than it was before with the holes/ducts.

If air is simply dumped into the stock box I'm not sure this would be a true RAM air system. Essentially there would be improvement only on cooler temps not neccessarily a RAM affect (unless car speed was significant).

just my

without data to look at.

dad · 07-03-2009, 08:03 PM

That is not pretty! Every time you or someone looks at your car, their going to look at those ******* holes!

Caravanshaka · 07-03-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dad

That is not pretty! Every time you or someone looks at your car, their going to look at those ******* holes!

kinda like looking at the back of our car and seeing that ***-hole

Caravanshaka · 07-03-2009, 10:05 PM

Ok, my idea would involve a little extra cutting, but might be more useful:

the foam in the front is where the black part of our stock bumper is, kinda where the front license plate would go if you put it on. I would cut a rectangular hole in the bumper in that black area, which would make it subtle, then cut the foam in a wedge shape to flow air up towards the filters. could find some black plastic molded in the right shape and 95% of people looking at your car wouldn't even notice it.

Now, looking at the picture. The blue box is where the bumper is cut out. The red area is where you would shape the foam to direct air from the box, up and out towards the filters. You could do some thin sheet plastic to make a nice curvey back piece for optimum flow. Don't have to worry about rain either, it won't travel up

Modshack · 07-04-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname007

Modshacks pipes would not work man, too many pipes in the front end.....modshack pipes for short tube and nostrils for long tube....

Actually I think they would work fine. Instead of bending the hoses around behind the impact bar and into the Airbox pass-through, just route them toward the filters. You could build a simple Manifold/Hose bracket to mount to and direct the air sorta like this:

Modshack · 07-04-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Caravanshaka

Ok, my idea would involve a little extra cutting, but might be more useful:

the foam in the front is where the black part of our stock bumper is, kinda where the front license plate would go if you put it on. I would cut a rectangular hole in the bumper in that black area, which would make it subtle, then cut the foam in a wedge shape to flow air up towards the filters. could find some black plastic molded in the right shape and 95% of people looking at your car wouldn't even notice it.

Now, looking at the picture. The blue box is where the bumper is cut out. The red area is where you would shape the foam to direct air from the box, up and out towards the filters. You could do some thin sheet plastic to make a nice curvey back piece for optimum flow. Don't have to worry about rain either, it won't travel up

Excellent idea! This could be done witout visually hacking up the front. YOu could almost make a grill disappear in the black area. Expanding on that, there is a Corvette part called a Vette-air that may have application here.. Pattern cut this into the black area, do a little foam carving and you'd have a nice forced feed right to the Filters.. I used one of these on my Vette to feed air to a custom intake. Worked great..

FuszNissan · 07-04-2009, 09:35 AM

That looks perfect. Nice find

m4a1mustang · 07-04-2009, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname007

Modshacks pipes would not work man, too many pipes in the front end.....modshack pipes for short tube and nostrils for long tube....

DDM, it still goes to the pipe....lol...you get the point here

I think you misunderstood.

Modshack uses short tubes, therefore the nostrils with pipes attached could be used very easily to direct fresh air into the airboxes.

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M.Bonanni Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: North Las Vegas Posts: 1,904 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 5	^^^ I'm pretty sure that is not accurately scaled. You would have to cut your headlights in that case. Lets go off of this photo and your imagination on where the vents would go in relation to the headlights. __________________ BonanniMotorsports.com Berk Technology \| Paladin Advanced Automotive \| DRIFTENVY \| Spy Optic Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/bonannimotorsports Last edited by M.Bonanni; 07-03-2009 at 06:49 PM.

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Caravanshaka Z is for sale - check sig Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: north Dallas Posts: 8,539 Drives: QAB 6MT Rep Power: 25	Ok, my idea would involve a little extra cutting, but might be more useful: the foam in the front is where the black part of our stock bumper is, kinda where the front license plate would go if you put it on. I would cut a rectangular hole in the bumper in that black area, which would make it subtle, then cut the foam in a wedge shape to flow air up towards the filters. could find some black plastic molded in the right shape and 95% of people looking at your car wouldn't even notice it. Now, looking at the picture. The blue box is where the bumper is cut out. The red area is where you would shape the foam to direct air from the box, up and out towards the filters. You could do some thin sheet plastic to make a nice curvey back piece for optimum flow. Don't have to worry about rain either, it won't travel up Last edited by Caravanshaka; 07-03-2009 at 10:10 PM.

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