Carbon Fiber 370z / Logistics

Jjaden · 05-05-2011, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

Just save your money bro to be honest, invest in forced induction if you want a better power to weight ratio. Plus eventually it will become sun damaged.

It was doing it purely cosmetically for the rarity and appearance of the CF, the weight reduction was just an added bonus.

Jjaden · 05-05-2011, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports

Full cf.... Sounds like a project....very interesting

Haha, yup looks like I'm going to have to see how realistic it is now tho....

Jamaica · 05-05-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jjaden

Haha, yup looks like I'm going to have to see how realistic it is now tho....

Let me know if you need anything. Cf door and hatch and bumper

Jjaden · 05-05-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports

Let me know if you need anything. Cf door and hatch and bumper

Sadly, while I would have LOVED to pursue this project, I am very particular and have always been a firm believer that if you are going to pursue something, go balls out and do it right. After reading the comments in this thread it sounds like this would cost 20k+ and I would still encounter problems with sun exposure.

Currently it sounds like I would have likely encountered issues with fitment throwing off the lines of the car, and also issues from sun exposure, which pretty much sucks. I'd rather find out about these problems now, rather than after I've gone ahead and fitted the car in CF lol.

I think I may just continue my goal of Black with carbon fiber accents throughout the car as opposed to full CF until I can afford to do it properly.

I can't wait until your fenders and rear bumper arrive, that will be a nice start!

docaam · 05-05-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jjaden

This is really a damn shame because the girlfriend just hopped on board to buy me a full custom CF front bumper for my brithday to jumpstart the project .

you still can avail that oppurtunity

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Originally Posted by Jjaden

I think I may just continue my goal of Black with carbon fiber accents throughout the car as opposed to full CF until I can afford to do it properly.

CF with black is sick as well man

shaun66 · 05-06-2011, 12:58 PM

Search NYBladeZ, he has lots of carbon fiber panels on his Z.

phelan · 05-06-2011, 03:16 PM

adam - just to clarify your question to me: no, keeping it in the dark for 6 months won't do a thing. once the sunlight hits it (and i assure you it will, unless you want a permanent garage ornament), the resin used on the CF WILL discolor and cloud, no matter what. so you'd be paying baller money to get a full CF car...that will eventually turn out...well, you get the picture

while it's never going to have the WOW factor of a full CF car (which i never quite understood anyway, i think it's nasty looking to have a full CF car honestly), black with CF accents will look very, VERY good. if you were able to set aside that much cash for a full CF project, though, i might suggest getting the car painted to a dark gunmetal gray or something, so the CF accents have something to contrast against.

kenchan · 05-06-2011, 03:34 PM

phelan- isn't that why we use polymer for UV protection?

ive had CF bits on my cars and they didn't really change over the course of the years i had the cars. even sold the bits near new condition.

Econ · 05-06-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

adam - just to clarify your question to me: no, keeping it in the dark for 6 months won't do a thing. once the sunlight hits it (and i assure you it will, unless you want a permanent garage ornament), the resin used on the CF WILL discolor and cloud, no matter what. so you'd be paying baller money to get a full CF car...that will eventually turn out...well, you get the picture

while it's never going to have the WOW factor of a full CF car (which i never quite understood anyway, i think it's nasty looking to have a full CF car honestly), black with CF accents will look very, VERY good. if you were able to set aside that much cash for a full CF project, though, i might suggest getting the car painted to a dark gunmetal gray or something, so the CF accents have something to contrast against.

so how do companies like koenigsegg/bugatti who sell full CF cars from the factory combat the yellowing/clouding...

there has to be a way, i doubt people paying 2 mil for a car want to worry about letting the sun hit the car

kenchan · 05-06-2011, 03:56 PM

i am 99.999% sure they use UV coating... resin itself without the coating will yellow.

this + polymer sealant will add even more UV protection.

Jjaden · 05-06-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

adam - just to clarify your question to me: no, keeping it in the dark for 6 months won't do a thing. once the sunlight hits it (and i assure you it will, unless you want a permanent garage ornament), the resin used on the CF WILL discolor and cloud, no matter what. so you'd be paying baller money to get a full CF car...that will eventually turn out...well, you get the picture

while it's never going to have the WOW factor of a full CF car (which i never quite understood anyway, i think it's nasty looking to have a full CF car honestly), black with CF accents will look very, VERY good. if you were able to set aside that much cash for a full CF project, though, i might suggest getting the car painted to a dark gunmetal gray or something, so the CF accents have something to contrast against.

Thanks man, I appreciate the honesty. I totally agree with the 'going gunmental' and have always regretted not waiting for the 4oth anniversary.

I abolutely love the dark gunmetal of my GF's 2008 911 Turbo. The car always looks clean even when it's filthy, hides all scratches and looks amazing, so I think when it's time for a re-paint I'm going to track down the paint code and see if I can swing it.

Either that or repaint black and clear-bra my entire car, because to be blunt Nissan's black paint sucks, and if the Z is used as a daily driver the way I have, the paint looks chipped and crappy after 18 months.

I do agree that the gunmetal colour will contrast nicely with some exposed CF accents.

Jjaden · 05-06-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i am 99.999% sure they use UV coating... resin itself without the coating will yellow.

this + polymer sealant will add even more UV protection.

Damn now you guys are confusing me, I really like the idea of a full CF car, but I don't want to risk having the car look like crap in 2-3 years.

If I could be positive that this wouldn't happen I would pursue the project, but since I'm impatient and want to get cracking on some upgrades I will stick with the CF accent for now.

kenchan · 05-06-2011, 04:07 PM

yah, if you ever decide to do the full carbon, talk to the shop that's making the pieces for you for the UV coating they use. you can probably request additional clearcoat with UV protection (matte or glossy) to be added on top of the layer.

i dont think they sell car parts to consumers without putting UV coating unless it's for race application where it's for function and not just bling and to minimize weight.

Mr&Mrs · 05-06-2011, 04:23 PM

I think I mentioned this somehwere else you had asked about this, but I to had plans of doing this. Ditched the idea for something just as cool (Andrew knows what I really want) and I am content with my Black/Silver/CF look for now >=)

Jjaden · 05-06-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

I think I mentioned this somehwere else you had asked about this, but I to had plans of doing this. Ditched the idea for something just as cool (Andrew knows what I really want) and I am content with my Black/Silver/CF look for now >=)

Yup that's right, I asked you a question about this a while back and you mentioned the Rear Quarterpanels being totally unavailable for order in CF. I spoke with someone who was able to work around this so I thought it might be doable, but it appears that won't be enough.

Your ride looks great, I'll be very interested to see what you're cooking up for the future...

05-06-2011, 03:16 PM	#22 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	adam - just to clarify your question to me: no, keeping it in the dark for 6 months won't do a thing. once the sunlight hits it (and i assure you it will, unless you want a permanent garage ornament), the resin used on the CF WILL discolor and cloud, no matter what. so you'd be paying baller money to get a full CF car...that will eventually turn out...well, you get the picture while it's never going to have the WOW factor of a full CF car (which i never quite understood anyway, i think it's nasty looking to have a full CF car honestly), black with CF accents will look very, VERY good. if you were able to set aside that much cash for a full CF project, though, i might suggest getting the car painted to a dark gunmetal gray or something, so the CF accents have something to contrast against. __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

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Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,197 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 28585	I think I mentioned this somehwere else you had asked about this, but I to had plans of doing this. Ditched the idea for something just as cool (Andrew knows what I really want) and I am content with my Black/Silver/CF look for now >=) __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	yah, if you ever decide to do the full carbon, talk to the shop that's making the pieces for you for the UV coating they use. you can probably request additional clearcoat with UV protection (matte or glossy) to be added on top of the layer. i dont think they sell car parts to consumers without putting UV coating unless it's for race application where it's for function and not just bling and to minimize weight.