varis v2 hood

OptionZero · 12-08-2021, 05:14 PM

It is true that the same factory can produce products of vastly different quality depending on the amount of effort they put into a particular client’s project…

…but when Seibon, Fly1, and Alliance are all in the same price bracket, i am skeptical any of them are particularly more reliable than the other, and definitely less reliable than the original outfit that engineered something, like the JDM shops

gbrettin · 12-09-2021, 10:12 AM

When you are getting the cheaper versions, non Varis brand. You are buying the look of the hood and not the quality. I purchased Fly1 Spec-v (Varis knock off) because I was told the hood was exactly the same.

It's not. The Spec-v hood was 1 ply of CF backed by fiber glass with a heavy amount of resin (weight). Varis, from what I've seen, looked to be complete CF on both sides of the hood.

I sold the Spec-v to someone local because I didn't want it on my car because it felt bastardized. If you like the look of the hood then you will be fine. I had one of the first Spec-v hoods so fitment was fine (verified after I saw it installed). Here is the BUT. ... BUT, keep in mind they re-use the same molds over and over. If the vendor has a billet mold of the hood (doubtful) then they will not have mold distortion. What I suspect Fly1 has is casted molds that slowly distort over time. That is just my theory on why Fly1 is hit and miss.

Bottom line. There's a reason why the hood is cheaper.

justin_boy · 12-10-2021, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbrettin

When you are getting the cheaper versions, non Varis brand. You are buying the look of the hood and not the quality. I purchased Fly1 Spec-v (Varis knock off) because I was told the hood was exactly the same.

It's not. The Spec-v hood was 1 ply of CF backed by fiber glass with a heavy amount of resin (weight). Varis, from what I've seen, looked to be complete CF on both sides of the hood.

I sold the Spec-v to someone local because I didn't want it on my car because it felt bastardized. If you like the look of the hood then you will be fine. I had one of the first Spec-v hoods so fitment was fine (verified after I saw it installed). Here is the BUT. ... BUT, keep in mind they re-use the same molds over and over. If the vendor has a billet mold of the hood (doubtful) then they will not have mold distortion. What I suspect Fly1 has is casted molds that slowly distort over time. That is just my theory on why Fly1 is hit and miss.

Bottom line. There's a reason why the hood is cheaper.

thank you for the heads up. its more a track car at this point, (just gutted the inside too) also, the fenders i ordered were great quality, and great fitment so if thats any indicator of quality i hope the hood will be good too

justin_boy · 12-16-2021, 12:48 PM

just a cool view of their fenders. imo the vents are the best looking out of the options we have

OptionZero · 12-16-2021, 02:21 PM

after my Vertex experience i don't think i'm ever gonna go plastic fenders

rolled/pulled OEM or custom from now on

justin_boy · 12-16-2021, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

after my Vertex experience i don't think i'm ever gonna go plastic fenders

rolled/pulled OEM or custom from now on

what happened if you dont mind me asking?

OptionZero · 12-16-2021, 03:30 PM

uneven fitment left/right and couldn't get TRD sideskirts to mate cleanly with them

Vertex is a pretty small outfit, IIRC. See alot less of them them the last few years than say, Varis, which seems to be the hot JDM aero among multiple car crowds

Varis, Rocket Bunny/Pandem, Voltex seems to be the hot stuff in the aftermarket aero game

justin_boy · 12-17-2021, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

uneven fitment left/right and couldn't get TRD sideskirts to mate cleanly with them

Vertex is a pretty small outfit, IIRC. See alot less of them them the last few years than say, Varis, which seems to be the hot JDM aero among multiple car crowds

Varis, Rocket Bunny/Pandem, Voltex seems to be the hot stuff in the aftermarket aero game

oh thats annoying. idk it must be a different mold cause these guys pride themselves on perfect fitment and the fenders fit like oem. Im usually skeptical but i heard nothing but great thinga about alliance carbon. the back is fiberglass and not double sided carbon, but it does just fine for a track car

12-08-2021, 05:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,270 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214101	It is true that the same factory can produce products of vastly different quality depending on the amount of effort they put into a particular client’s project… …but when Seibon, Fly1, and Alliance are all in the same price bracket, i am skeptical any of them are particularly more reliable than the other, and definitely less reliable than the original outfit that engineered something, like the JDM shops __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

12-09-2021, 10:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,302 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589151	When you are getting the cheaper versions, non Varis brand. You are buying the look of the hood and not the quality. I purchased Fly1 Spec-v (Varis knock off) because I was told the hood was exactly the same. It's not. The Spec-v hood was 1 ply of CF backed by fiber glass with a heavy amount of resin (weight). Varis, from what I've seen, looked to be complete CF on both sides of the hood. I sold the Spec-v to someone local because I didn't want it on my car because it felt bastardized. If you like the look of the hood then you will be fine. I had one of the first Spec-v hoods so fitment was fine (verified after I saw it installed). Here is the BUT. ... BUT, keep in mind they re-use the same molds over and over. If the vendor has a billet mold of the hood (doubtful) then they will not have mold distortion. What I suspect Fly1 has is casted molds that slowly distort over time. That is just my theory on why Fly1 is hit and miss. Bottom line. There's a reason why the hood is cheaper. Last edited by gbrettin; 12-09-2021 at 10:19 AM.

12-16-2021, 12:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
justin_boy Track Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: woodland hills Posts: 600 Drives: z34 Rep Power: 8368	just a cool view of their fenders. imo the vents are the best looking out of the options we have gbrettin likes this.

12-16-2021, 02:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,270 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214101	after my Vertex experience i don't think i'm ever gonna go plastic fenders rolled/pulled OEM or custom from now on gbrettin likes this. __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

12-16-2021, 03:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,270 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214101	uneven fitment left/right and couldn't get TRD sideskirts to mate cleanly with them Vertex is a pretty small outfit, IIRC. See alot less of them them the last few years than say, Varis, which seems to be the hot JDM aero among multiple car crowds Varis, Rocket Bunny/Pandem, Voltex seems to be the hot stuff in the aftermarket aero game __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

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