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Shunya 09-03-2009 11:50 PM

can't read ****.

NewYorkJon34 09-10-2009 09:48 PM

I plan on using my car for daily driving, would odyssey pc680 be a good battery if I don't plan on going to the track, and how long will it last? And my second question is wouldn't changing to lighter lug nuts help lose some rotational weight & be good for a DD?

M.Bonanni 09-11-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 193389)
I plan on using my car for daily driving, would odyssey pc680 be a good battery if I don't plan on going to the track, and how long will it last? And my second question is wouldn't changing to lighter lug nuts help lose some rotational weight & be good for a DD?

The PC680 works fine for a DD. I DD my 370Z as well and have had no problems with it. As for the lug nuts, 99% of aftermarket lugs will not work with the stock wheels. My honest opinion though, both of those mods will not be noticeable when daily driving as far as performance gains from weight savings go.

NewYorkJon34 09-11-2009 11:31 AM

Why will aftermarket lugs not work? I figured replacing the battery, changing exhaust, removing spare tire + tools, changing to lighter/slotted rotors + lighter tires, plus I figured what ever little things I can remove would help my 370Z.

M.Bonanni 09-11-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 194249)
Why will aftermarket lugs not work? I figured replacing the battery, changing exhaust, removing spare tire + tools, changing to lighter/slotted rotors + lighter tires, plus I figured what ever little things I can remove would help my 370Z.

The stock rims and lugs are designed differently than aftermarket lugs and rims. The big flat washer type area on the stock lugs is what is doing all of the work holding the rim on. When you take that away by using an aftermarket lug, the amount of rim that the lugs are actually holding onto is too thin. Kinda hard to explain, but here is what happens...

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...Lacordaire.jpg

Aftermarket rims have much more material between the acorn part of the lug and the hub.

ZforMe 09-11-2009 11:46 AM

Any new mounting options in stock location for the pc680?

kdo2milger 09-11-2009 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 194249)
Why will aftermarket lugs not work? I figured replacing the battery, changing exhaust, removing spare tire + tools, changing to lighter/slotted rotors + lighter tires, plus I figured what ever little things I can remove would help my 370Z.

for stock wheels you must use the washer style like these wheel locks...

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/IMG_0190.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/IMG_0187.jpg

M.Bonanni 09-11-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ZforMe (Post 194268)
Any new mounting options in stock location for the pc680?

This is the nicest universal mount for the PC680 I have come across...

Password:JDM Billet Aluminum Universal Battery Mount

You can just screw this into your stock battery tray very easily. I have mine mounted the exact same way.

NewYorkJon34 09-11-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DDMotorsports (Post 194282)
This is the nicest universal mount for the PC680 I have come across...

Password:JDM Billet Aluminum Universal Battery Mount

You can just screw this into your stock battery tray very easily. I have mine mounted the exact same way.

Thanks for the link, and your right that is a nice looking battery mount, if I buy that would it fit in the stock location and be able to put the battery cover back on? How long would the 680 battery last, is it weaker cus it's smaller?

M.Bonanni 09-11-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 194302)
Thanks for the link, and your right that is a nice looking battery mount, if I buy that would it fit in the stock location and be able to put the battery cover back on? How long would the 680 battery last, is it weaker cus it's smaller?

Yeah it will actually sit a bit lower than the stock battery. I am not too sure on the life expectancy to be honest. I had one in my old 350Z for a few years and have had this one in my 370Z for probably around 7 months or so and its still as good as the day I put it in.

NewYorkJon34 09-11-2009 12:30 PM

^cool, so at least it lasts a few years, I just don't want to have to worry about my car not starting, that would def suck, lol

NewYorkJon34 09-11-2009 03:19 PM

I'm sure this has already been found but I found this link for slotted Rotora front/rear brake rotors: Rotora Front Slotted Brake Rotors Nissan 370Z - I just don't know how much they weigh. I assume they have to weigh less then the stock rotors.

wstar 09-11-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DDMotorsports (Post 194226)
The PC680 works fine for a DD. I DD my 370Z as well and have had no problems with it. As for the lug nuts, 99% of aftermarket lugs will not work with the stock wheels. My honest opinion though, both of those mods will not be noticeable when daily driving as far as performance gains from weight savings go.

I have the PC680 in a DD as well, and with an underdriven alternator to boot, and no problems with regular stuff. I have killed the charge on it twice, but that was from working on it (with the key turned "ON", engine off, and messing with the window buttons repeatedly while working on some door stuff in the garage). So be sure to have a charger or jump ready if you plan to work on the car like that, it drains quick when you run heavy accessories like the windows without the engine running.

370zForever 09-14-2009 09:58 PM

Hey i was just wondering, everything that is connected to the seat, is that taken out when you rip out the seat... The heated seats and electric motors??

370zForever 09-14-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DDMotorsports (Post 42078)
Finally installed my Odyssey PC680 battery :).

Keeping it in the stock location for now.

http://www.doubledownmotorsports.com/370zpc680.jpg

Hey looks great, but I was just wondering do you guys know what is the best all around battery as in light weight, performance, and daily driving. The Odyssey 680 just doesn't seem good enough for daily driving...

370zForever 09-14-2009 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DDMotorsports (Post 22228)
As promised, stock touring package seat weighed. Result = 47 lbs. each.

http://www.doubledownmotorsports.com/370zstockseat.jpg

http://www.doubledownmotorsports.com/370zstockseat2.jpg

And a bonus, I weighed a BRIDE Zeta III and rail (for 350Z). Result = 26 lbs. each.

http://www.doubledownmotorsports.com...eta3weight.jpg

http://www.doubledownmotorsports.com...ta3weight2.jpg

And even threw the seat in the car for a few shots :). *No the 370Z brackets aren't here yet, they will be here 5-7 weeks.

http://www.doubledownmotorsports.com...ridezeta31.jpg

http://www.doubledownmotorsports.com...ridezeta32.jpg

Dude you are freakin awesome Man!!!
Where the heck did you find the rails for the Z, I looked all over and just can't find it.....HELP ME I AM A POOR AND WEARY SOUL

M.Bonanni 09-14-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zForever (Post 199262)
Hey looks great, but I was just wondering do you guys know what is the best all around battery as in light weight, performance, and daily driving. The Odyssey 680 just doesn't seem good enough for daily driving...

The PC680 works fine for daily driving. I daily drive my Z and haven't had any problems with it whatsoever. There are others on this forum with the same experience as well.

370zForever 09-15-2009 09:41 PM

Hey guys, I'm probably gonna get Bride seats, but I'm just wondering if all the wires and connections to the power seats need to be ripped out or something (SO CLUELESS) And uhh I'm short on cash after all the upgrades Im gonna do so how good is the Vios III

M.Bonanni 09-16-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zForever (Post 199281)
Dude you are freakin awesome Man!!!
Where the heck did you find the rails for the Z, I looked all over and just can't find it.....HELP ME I AM A POOR AND WEARY SOUL

Thanks :). BRIDE USA used my car to see if the JDM BRIDE rails fit on the USDM Z, which they do. Right now there have only been two sets brought to the US, one was sold, and the other I have here with me waiting to be sold :).

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Originally Posted by 370zForever (Post 200481)
Hey guys, I'm probably gonna get Bride seats, but I'm just wondering if all the wires and connections to the power seats need to be ripped out or something (SO CLUELESS) And uhh I'm short on cash after all the upgrades Im gonna do so how good is the Vios III

The wires connect to the seat with plugs which obviously need to be un-plugged to remove the seat. The aftermarket seat won't have the motor or heaters or stuff like that so you won't be plugging them back in to anything. You can just leave them there or completely remove them, which would be a pain in the ***. As for the Vios III and any other seat, everyone is shaped differently and has their own idea of comfort so really you just have to sit in a few different seats yourself to be positive you like the way they feel.

370zForever 09-16-2009 03:21 PM

thanks man

370zForever 09-17-2009 05:40 PM

Guys, I've found another lightweight seat option for the Z! The name of the company is Buddy club. They made racing seats for the 350z and have the ones for the 370z. They are a U.S. motorsport organization, so they are based in California. They seats are very light (according to the site, the seats weigh around 5 kg (12 lbs) each). They were designed for safety, lightness, and comfort. Unfortunately, for all you people who want a fully comfortable racing seat, this is a fixed bucket seat, so no reclining. Buddy club is not as popular or respected as Bride, Sparco, or Recaro, but I think the seats are really good. Very light...Carbon Fibre or FRP (Fiber reinforced plastic). Carbon Fibre seats costs $900 each, but the FRP only costs $500 dollars each. Here's the site..

---Buddy club OFFICIAL USA WEB SITE---
Go to products, then racing seats..

The site shows the rails for the 350z, but they are advertising the seat for the 370z, so I think they have the rails. Correct me if I'm wrong...

Supergoji 09-18-2009 10:25 PM

does unbolting the 370z seat cause a CEL because they have an airbag inthem?

Endgame 09-19-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 194271)
for stock wheels you must use the washer style like these wheel locks...

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/IMG_0190.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/IMG_0187.jpg

So, just for me to be clear here. Aftermarket RAYS lugs will not work on the 370. Is this correct?

kdo2milger 09-19-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 204702)
So, just for me to be clear here. Aftermarket RAYS lugs will not work on the 370. Is this correct?

do you have the sport package rays?

Endgame 09-20-2009 02:24 PM

I plan to pick up some VOLK CE28ns

kdo2milger 09-20-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 205789)
I plan to pick up some VOLK CE28ns

check this thread out...

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...d-lug-nut.html

Endgame 09-20-2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 205794)

Thx KDO.. I should mention that I am intending to get the Rays lug/lock set. Will I be o.k. with those?? Or did I still miss something..?

370zForever 09-21-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 370sed (Post 29292)
I have relocated batteries and also have used the PC680. Eventually I got back to just replacing OEM bat w/PC680 for weight savings in place. Why? Relocating means heavy gauge wire ('0' - '2') to carry the heavy starter current without voltage drop. Aside from the inconvenience of installing the wire, the potential voltage drop of extra connections, and PITA of stuffing the battery somewhere where it was not designed to be, but the bigger issue is weight.

The heavy cable actually weighs a considerable amount per ft, the new mounting bracket weighs more. Add that up and the battery and you'll find actual total weight saving diminished significantly. Leaving the battery in its original gets you the most static weight lost. The only downside is there is not fore to aft weight change.

The PC680 works good, but tends to discharge quicker over time than stock, and I've found they need replacing about every 2 yrs as they lose charging capacity.

Hold on, how much does the cable actually weigh and does the line has to run down the passenger side because, if you're right, then that would throw off the right and left weight distribution a bit..The weight on the right side is a very small amount more than the left...Is there a better way because I want to get the Braille B3121, which is 21 pounds and can be used for daily driving. Is there a better way to relocate the battery??

NewYorkJon34 09-21-2009 06:44 PM

Ya that Braille B3121 is a pretty nice, do u need a special bracket for it?

370zForever 09-27-2009 09:38 PM

Braille sell the aluminum bracket for it.

What's the best way of lightening the Z's front. I know about the battery relocation and lightweight pulleys, but what about forged pistons and connecting rods from GTM. Do they lighten the front signficantly?? Any better ideas to lighten the Z's front or its engine?

1slow370 09-28-2009 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 206417)
Thx KDO.. I should mention that I am intending to get the Rays lug/lock set. Will I be o.k. with those?? Or did I still miss something..?

If you are getting aftermarket volks you need to use regular acorn lug nuts not the 370 washer ones so you will be fine with aftermarket lug/lock set. On the contrary you will not be able to use the stock lugnuts on your VOLKS.

Edit: Reported Paul Yang's Spamming @$$

370zForever 09-30-2009 08:24 PM

Hey any of you guys got information on a 370z carbon fibre roof?? Not the Sunline racing one because that is an overlay and just adds weight and doesn't lower the center of gravity...I'm looking for a replacement for the the Z's roof. NO OVERLAYS!!

M.Bonanni 10-01-2009 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zForever (Post 218699)
Hey any of you guys got information on a 370z carbon fibre roof?? Not the Sunline racing one because that is an overlay and just adds weight and doesn't lower the center of gravity...I'm looking for a replacement for the the Z's roof. NO OVERLAYS!!

There is nothing out yet and I doubt there will be for this car. On cars like the Evo and STI it makes sense because they are such large roofs and carbon replacements can save tons of weight. Not to mention the number of people who build track STIs and Evos are HUGE compared to those who build track Zs. There just isn't a big enough market for a mod like that. As much as I would like to see one, I don't see it happening.

Endgame 10-02-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 215764)
If you are getting aftermarket volks you need to use regular acorn lug nuts not the 370 washer ones so you will be fine with aftermarket lug/lock set. On the contrary you will not be able to use the stock lugnuts on your VOLKS.

Edit: Reported Paul Yang's Spamming @$$

Thanks man!

370zForever 10-02-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DDMotorsports (Post 218981)
There is nothing out yet and I doubt there will be for this car. On cars like the Evo and STI it makes sense because they are such large roofs and carbon replacements can save tons of weight. Not to mention the number of people who build track STIs and Evos are HUGE compared to those who build track Zs. There just isn't a big enough market for a mod like that. As much as I would like to see one, I don't see it happening.

I have found one roof from Seibon, It is a roof and not an overlay, but they say it is made of fiberglass, which is pretty light, but not as strong as carbon fibre or steel for that matter. Check it out, see what u think...

M.Bonanni 10-02-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zForever (Post 220241)
I have found one roof from Seibon, It is a roof and not an overlay, but they say it is made of fiberglass, which is pretty light, but not as strong as carbon fibre or steel for that matter. Check it out, see what u think...

SEIBON makes a roof cover (overaly) for the 350Z but I dont' think they have come out with any products at all yet for the 370Z.

370zForever 10-03-2009 10:49 AM

Oh K, guess we'll just have to wait

NewYorkJon34 10-12-2009 08:44 AM

^Spam Blocka's Bitch!

kdo2milger 10-12-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 233103)
^Spam Blocka's Bitch!

im assumming you reported the spammer...

NewYorkJon34 10-12-2009 06:06 PM

Ya I did, how do these spammers keep popping up in this forum?


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