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Chuck33079

Has anyone ever been dynoed with the bumper off? I've seen countless dynos showing manufacturer claimed whp increases with the bumper on. I've been to plenty of dyno days and not once has the bumper come off - and people were still making more power than stock.

Is it just me, or does this smell like inventing a problem in order to sell a solution? This company only makes shift knobs for the Z34, and suddenly they're an authority on how to make power? Hell, they didn't even include a link to this article they claim justifies the need for this product.

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DeliriousClam

Yeah something doesn't seem right about this

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Joe@DewlaDez

Let's just sit back for those dyno results before we make extreme decisions. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything..

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There is the link.

I understand your concern, but we have been making parts for Z's for the last decade that you don't even know about. They just don't have our name on them.

Also, I typically go by the general rule I was taught at a very young age.

" The faster you get the air in and out = The more power you make. "

I also have a very lengthy background in fabrication/engineering personally.

Not exactly the warm welcome I was hoping for from my Z community.

I understand skepticism, but this is bit far.

There are several of these parts going out to the following dealers for 3rd party dyno results.

Specialty Z
Z1 Motorsports
Concept Z Performance
Houston Z
and MotoIQ

All these companies offered right away to fit and test this part. Some agreeing that there is a known issue.

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Chuck33079

It's entirely possible that you're right. I'll happily admit it if that's the case. I'm just confused since no one dynos their car with the bumper off and many people here have dyno charts showing gains in line with what the intake manufacturers expect. Then you make a post with some claims to the contrary, and do not provide any backup except an article from 2009 - and we had to drag that out of you. You should have led with your supporting information and some real world proof. You did neither. I'll profusely apologize once we see that you're selling a good product, not just more of the snake oil bs that cars get right around the time that they've reached the end of the line.

I'm sorry you feel personally attacked by me asking for more proof than you initially provided. Tell you what - no bs - post up some 3rd party same day before and after dyno sheets showing these gains, and I'll buy you a six pack in apology (I'd say I'd buy one, but my intakes aren't even in the same zip code as stock). I hope you are bringing a good product to market, there's just a lot of vendors these days who like to throw around bold claims with limited proof and many of us here are skeptical.

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Joe@DewlaDez

It was just how you addressed it.. I totally agree that we need some more solid evidence as it is always preferable and good for all.

I did write this post at like 2:30 am! There is a good chance I jumped the gun on presenting this to you guys lol.

All I ever claimed is that this thing is getting way more air to the long tube intakes, and from what we have experienced in testing. More low-mid end torque.

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Zoren 370

Im not saying your product is farce too. But honestly people here have sold there Z and left this forum.

Too late in game? Maybe or maybe not.

I dont know how many people here are into numbers game. Or bragging rights.

I only have one Z for 6 years now and my other car is a C7 Z51. I agree with the principle as the C7 alone have lots if deflectors for increased air flow and cooling.

Will I buy one for my Z? Maybe yes and no.
For the last 2 weeks in the for sale thread at least 4 people selling the Gen 3 Stillen intakes and having hard time selling.

When 6 years ago they are selling like hot cakes even for a price of $500.
A 8 to 9 year old car? Do I need to brag about it every time I attend a cars and coffee in my area that I have this deflectors? Nobody would care as people are more interested on the new design Mustang, Corvette etc.

I welcome the innovation but timing is everything in the business world. Do you intend to sell to many people who DD the Z example people in California where the average speed is 5-6 miles On heavy traffic or your target market people who track there Z? I only know 5 or 6 in this forum now.

Its a free market I welcome and applaud the effort in making the Stillen work better. Maybe same reason why Stillen didnt bother to make one to sell because the market is small now.

Im speaking of the business side of things.

Asus_

I'm sure they they didn't mean it directly to you personally just more so skeptical of the product itself

I myself would of liked to see some dyno numbers also. I'll be watching the thread tho thats for sure!