Specialty Z Max Street Flywheel, Clutch, CSC

Rangerz · 09-29-2014, 10:10 PM

I just got this installed last Wed because of a failed OEM CSC. Decided to go with the hole package at once so I didn't have to go back in to upgrade something else. I also replaced the MC.

I didn't take a bunch of pics because between DJtodd's DIY and the Specialty Z web page you can see what it all looks like.

Pulling the Transmission: Pretty straight forward and mind DJ's words on the crank sensor, that was a big pain in the arse to get out and back in for that matter. The only other glitch was where my stock line to the stock CSC connects to the lower hard line, the nut was frozen even after PB blaster a little heat etc... ended up rounding off the nut so bad I didn't want to reuse it; so I ordered the lower clutch line piping for 12 bucks from the local Nissan dealer.

The new clutch has a little bit of a harder pedal feel to it but, not bad at all. If your waiting at a train crossing for 20 min, might want to put it in N

The most notable thing to me is the light weight flywheel. It is no harder to drive than stock so far as I can tell but, the engine revs quicker and believe it or not I would argue that it allows the SRM work more efficient. Downshift revs seem more precise and they don't hang as much as the stock flywheel.

The push-rod and clutch switch needed to be adjusted out because the engagement point was to close to the floor for my liking. 2 1/2 turns is what I ended up from stock.

The only issue I have now is I think I may have some air still in the system. The engagement gets lower/closer to the floor and feels a little spongy as the heat builds from normal driving. I've bled it 2 times and have rechecked the connections from top to bell housing dust cover about 5 times "No Leaks detected".

The whole SZ clutch kit is very well built and feels really solid.

Thanks Seb

Elmo370z · 09-29-2014, 11:50 PM

Who makes the master cylinder? Ive been searching all over the internet for one.

Rangerz · 09-30-2014, 07:12 AM

Just a stock MC unfortunatly.

instroke · 09-30-2014, 08:01 AM

Hey Rangerz - well done, with yours. We pretty much had the same trouble as you but got it in.

I also had issues with the CSC line, we had to take off the driver's side cat and one of the bolts on the cat - I think everyone calls it a demon bolt as can only be accessed from up top.

BTW - Rangerz - what was the color of your pressure plate? The pictures I have seen of the SZ clutch have been blue. But mine was Gray... got me wondering?

Clutch feel - Seb mentioned 20% more pedal effort than stock. LOL - mines allot heavier than that - I have it in use with the RMJ pedal and it allows me to set it a little lighter.

The flywheel is a work of Art - does have some chatter on low rpm starts - but with a little more rev's on takeoff takes care of it.

Overall happy with it, wish the pedal effort was a little lighter but I am sure it will hold some serious power.

Rangerz · 09-30-2014, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by instroke

Hey Rangerz - well done, with yours. We pretty much had the same trouble as you but got it in.

I also had issues with the CSC line, we had to take off the driver's side cat and one of the bolts on the cat - I think everyone calls it a demon bolt as can only be accessed from up top.

BTW - Rangerz - what was the color of your pressure plate? The pictures I have seen of the SZ clutch have been blue. But mine was Gray... got me wondering?

Clutch feel - Seb mentioned 20% more pedal effort than stock. LOL - mines allot heavier than that - I have it in use with the RMJ pedal and it allows me to set it a little lighter.

The flywheel is a work of Art - does have some chatter on low rpm starts - but with a little more rev's on takeoff takes care of it.

Overall happy with it, wish the pedal effort was a little lighter but I am sure it will hold some serious power.

Mine was grey too.

Hotrodz · 09-30-2014, 09:43 PM

I have the same one as well, you can see picks of it on SZ blog page from their web site. They make a great system! Congrats and nice write up!

1cleanZ · 02-10-2015, 01:52 PM

Any more reviews from this exact setup? Been really looking for feedback between the three, Max street, 5 puck and 6 puck.

VSS370z · 02-10-2015, 02:09 PM

I went with the Max Street and other than the chatter at idle the clutch feel great with just a bit more pedal effort. The car revs a bit quicker and going from 4th to 5th gear seems shorter but maybe thats just me. Great clutch

Rangerz · 02-10-2015, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cleanZ

Any more reviews from this exact setup? Been really looking for feedback between the three, Max street, 5 puck and 6 puck.

I have the street max.and I put the RJM adjustable pedal in.

Design and install:

Design, fit and fish are all top notch. The only thing I would dock points on are the length of the main clutch line "it is just a bit on the snug side could use about 2 more inches" the bleed tube could be designed to attach to the bellhousing which would allow a bit easier bleeding.

Operation:
As stated pedal effort is a little heavier but, not bad. Clutch engagement is smooth and solid. You will have chatter.

Recommendation:
I opted to get the RJM pedal to have the ability to adjust the engagement point to my liking. With the stock pedal and subsequent adjustability I wasn't able to get it where I wanted. It worked fine it was just to near the floor for me. I most likely had some adjustment issues on my part that exacerbated the issue.

finial thought would I buy it or recommend it? YES!! Solid clutch

2.

YzGyz · 02-10-2015, 11:17 PM

It chatters like mad at anything less than 2k rpm. It chatters 2x more than stock (ninja edit). My 6 puck clutch pedal engagement is too low Imo. I put 2 turna on the U thing to bring it out but still too close to the floor Imo (biggest gripe for me). The pedal got spongy the other day and had to bleed it again. Mine was/gray also. like stated above, the bleed line could use a few inches to make it easier to bleed.

YzGyz

Rangerz · 02-10-2015, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz

It chatters like mad at anything less than 2k rpm. It chatters 2x more. My 6 puck clutch pedal engagement is too low Imo. I put 2 turna on the U thing to bring it out but still too close to the floor Imo (biggest gripe for me). The pedal got spongy the other day and had to bleed it again. Mine was/gray also. like stated above, the bleed line could use a few inches to make it easier to bleed.

YzGyz

Do you think the puck style plate makes it chatter more than the Max Steet full plate? I ask because I wouldn't say mine chatters like mad...just has some chatter.

YzGyz · 02-10-2015, 11:46 PM

I really have no idea as I have not heard the max street or high five. I think the oem chatters like crazy for a stock car. My 6 puck chatter 2x as much. I can swear it chatters at full engagement and just reving from 1k To 2k. Try it and tell me what you think. I do 100% think this clutch/flywheel is a lot more grabbier as I have stalled a few times since installing it. I don't like to Rev and put a lot of gas as I start from a stop. Then again, my clutch pedal engagement is not in my ideal location.

YzGyz

Rangerz · 02-11-2015, 12:05 AM

RJM pedal will give you the engagement you're looking for. I had the same issue which wasn't great for the track.

Hotrodz · 02-11-2015, 10:11 PM

I have chatter when at idle, but it's not radical at all. I removed my clutch helper spring and that helped a lot for me. The only place I have an issue is from second to third from time to time, but my engagement points are above the mid point for the most part. I have had mine for over a year...boosted and and almost 14K on it. I will see how it holds now that have some significant torque on 100 octane!

YzGyz · 02-12-2015, 08:16 AM

Follow up, my clutch pedal was spongy a few days ago. I drafted 2 siblings, one on the clutch and one topping off the reservoir. The pedal was good for ~75 miles and is now spongy again. This is kinda pissing me off. the engagement is 1.5" off the floor. Grrr! ! the next day I have off, I plan to shorten the screw attached to the clutch pedal, bleed the system some again, then lengthen the scew to bring the engagement as high up as possible. I'm thinking that this Tilton csc holds more oil and thus need a longer clutch piston travel to operate correctly. Such a pain. This is getting me paranoid thinking the ss line to the csc was not tight enough or came loose. Grrr!

YzGyz

09-29-2014, 10:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rangerz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Northern Utah Age: 58 Posts: 476 Drives: 2012 370 Nismo Rep Power: 11	Specialty Z Max Street Flywheel, Clutch, CSC I just got this installed last Wed because of a failed OEM CSC. Decided to go with the hole package at once so I didn't have to go back in to upgrade something else. I also replaced the MC. I didn't take a bunch of pics because between DJtodd's DIY and the Specialty Z web page you can see what it all looks like. Pulling the Transmission: Pretty straight forward and mind DJ's words on the crank sensor, that was a big pain in the arse to get out and back in for that matter. The only other glitch was where my stock line to the stock CSC connects to the lower hard line, the nut was frozen even after PB blaster a little heat etc... ended up rounding off the nut so bad I didn't want to reuse it; so I ordered the lower clutch line piping for 12 bucks from the local Nissan dealer. The new clutch has a little bit of a harder pedal feel to it but, not bad at all. If your waiting at a train crossing for 20 min, might want to put it in N The most notable thing to me is the light weight flywheel. It is no harder to drive than stock so far as I can tell but, the engine revs quicker and believe it or not I would argue that it allows the SRM work more efficient. Downshift revs seem more precise and they don't hang as much as the stock flywheel. The push-rod and clutch switch needed to be adjusted out because the engagement point was to close to the floor for my liking. 2 1/2 turns is what I ended up from stock. The only issue I have now is I think I may have some air still in the system. The engagement gets lower/closer to the floor and feels a little spongy as the heat builds from normal driving. I've bled it 2 times and have rechecked the connections from top to bell housing dust cover about 5 times "No Leaks detected". The whole SZ clutch kit is very well built and feels really solid. Thanks Seb djtodd, Hotrodz, Elmo370z and 1 others like this. __________________ Stillen Gen III/ NST/ Fast Intentions Non-Res HFC & 12" Resonated CF TDX/ Setreb series 9 OC/ SPL upper control arms/ Whiteline front & rear swaybars/ Uprev tuned by Seb@specialtyZ/ 319HP 262TQ/ Z1 PS Cooler/ Z1 SS Premium break lines/ CJM Road Race pump/Carbotech F:XP10 R:XP8 Nismo OC DIY Last edited by Rangerz; 09-29-2014 at 10:14 PM.

09-30-2014, 07:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rangerz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Northern Utah Age: 58 Posts: 476 Drives: 2012 370 Nismo Rep Power: 11	Just a stock MC unfortunatly. __________________ Stillen Gen III/ NST/ Fast Intentions Non-Res HFC & 12" Resonated CF TDX/ Setreb series 9 OC/ SPL upper control arms/ Whiteline front & rear swaybars/ Uprev tuned by Seb@specialtyZ/ 319HP 262TQ/ Z1 PS Cooler/ Z1 SS Premium break lines/ CJM Road Race pump/Carbotech F:XP10 R:XP8 Nismo OC DIY

09-30-2014, 09:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	I have the same one as well, you can see picks of it on SZ blog page from their web site. They make a great system! Congrats and nice write up! Rangerz likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

02-10-2015, 01:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
1cleanZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 1,132 Drives: '09 PW Nismo Rep Power: 20	Any more reviews from this exact setup? Been really looking for feedback between the three, Max street, 5 puck and 6 puck. __________________ 2009 PW Nismo #0021 -My Built Progress >>1cleanG to 1cleanZ<< Team NextLevel

02-10-2015, 02:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
VSS370z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 380 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z CY M6 Rep Power: 13	I went with the Max Street and other than the chatter at idle the clutch feel great with just a bit more pedal effort. The car revs a bit quicker and going from 4th to 5th gear seems shorter but maybe thats just me. Great clutch Hotrodz likes this.

09-29-2014, 11:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,707 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	Who makes the master cylinder? Ive been searching all over the internet for one.

09-30-2014, 08:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
instroke Premium Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 147 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 10	Hey Rangerz - well done, with yours. We pretty much had the same trouble as you but got it in. I also had issues with the CSC line, we had to take off the driver's side cat and one of the bolts on the cat - I think everyone calls it a demon bolt as can only be accessed from up top. BTW - Rangerz - what was the color of your pressure plate? The pictures I have seen of the SZ clutch have been blue. But mine was Gray... got me wondering? Clutch feel - Seb mentioned 20% more pedal effort than stock. LOL - mines allot heavier than that - I have it in use with the RMJ pedal and it allows me to set it a little lighter. The flywheel is a work of Art - does have some chatter on low rpm starts - but with a little more rev's on takeoff takes care of it. Overall happy with it, wish the pedal effort was a little lighter but I am sure it will hold some serious power.

02-10-2015, 11:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
YzGyz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 1,449 Drives: 2010 Nismo Rep Power: 62	It chatters like mad at anything less than 2k rpm. It chatters 2x more than stock (ninja edit). My 6 puck clutch pedal engagement is too low Imo. I put 2 turna on the U thing to bring it out but still too close to the floor Imo (biggest gripe for me). The pedal got spongy the other day and had to bleed it again. Mine was/gray also. like stated above, the bleed line could use a few inches to make it easier to bleed. YzGyz Rangerz likes this. __________________ http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...gyzs-turn.html YzGyz Last edited by YzGyz; 02-10-2015 at 11:36 PM.

02-10-2015, 11:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
YzGyz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 1,449 Drives: 2010 Nismo Rep Power: 62	I really have no idea as I have not heard the max street or high five. I think the oem chatters like crazy for a stock car. My 6 puck chatter 2x as much. I can swear it chatters at full engagement and just reving from 1k To 2k. Try it and tell me what you think. I do 100% think this clutch/flywheel is a lot more grabbier as I have stalled a few times since installing it. I don't like to Rev and put a lot of gas as I start from a stop. Then again, my clutch pedal engagement is not in my ideal location. YzGyz __________________ http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...gyzs-turn.html YzGyz

02-11-2015, 12:05 AM	#13 (permalink)
Rangerz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Northern Utah Age: 58 Posts: 476 Drives: 2012 370 Nismo Rep Power: 11	RJM pedal will give you the engagement you're looking for. I had the same issue which wasn't great for the track. __________________ Stillen Gen III/ NST/ Fast Intentions Non-Res HFC & 12" Resonated CF TDX/ Setreb series 9 OC/ SPL upper control arms/ Whiteline front & rear swaybars/ Uprev tuned by Seb@specialtyZ/ 319HP 262TQ/ Z1 PS Cooler/ Z1 SS Premium break lines/ CJM Road Race pump/Carbotech F:XP10 R:XP8 Nismo OC DIY

02-11-2015, 10:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	I have chatter when at idle, but it's not radical at all. I removed my clutch helper spring and that helped a lot for me. The only place I have an issue is from second to third from time to time, but my engagement points are above the mid point for the most part. I have had mine for over a year...boosted and and almost 14K on it. I will see how it holds now that have some significant torque on 100 octane! __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

02-12-2015, 08:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
YzGyz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 1,449 Drives: 2010 Nismo Rep Power: 62	Follow up, my clutch pedal was spongy a few days ago. I drafted 2 siblings, one on the clutch and one topping off the reservoir. The pedal was good for ~75 miles and is now spongy again. This is kinda pissing me off. the engagement is 1.5" off the floor. Grrr! ! the next day I have off, I plan to shorten the screw attached to the clutch pedal, bleed the system some again, then lengthen the scew to bring the engagement as high up as possible. I'm thinking that this Tilton csc holds more oil and thus need a longer clutch piston travel to operate correctly. Such a pain. This is getting me paranoid thinking the ss line to the csc was not tight enough or came loose. Grrr! YzGyz __________________ http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...gyzs-turn.html YzGyz

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