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Old 12-18-2010, 04:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Your so wrong! Go talk to BMW and Audi Owners. I also own a 2008 TT 2.0 FSI Turbo and in the owners guide Audi will tell you this car, can use up to 1quart of oil per 1200 miles if the car is run hard.

My TT goes 10K miles on oli changes and I have to add 1quart of oil every 4500 miles or so.

Also go look at Lamborghini they also burn oil.


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if the car burns any oil, theres a problem. Who evers saying its fine for your car to burn oil is wrong and is giving out false information. The car should not burn anything! and if its burning up oil, where do u think its going? its getting by the oil scapper ring and burning up. For example - i put a short block in a g37s under warranty, the car was burning up 1 qrt per 1000-1500 ml's, we changed the motor and now its not consuming ANYTHING, hes been back 5 times and the oil is always at the top of the cross hatchs.
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Your so wrong! Go talk to BMW and Audi Owners. I also own a 2008 TT 2.0 FSI Turbo and in the owners guide Audi will tell you this car, can use up to 1quart of oil per 1200 miles if the car is run hard.

My TT goes 10K miles on oli changes and I have to add 1quart of oil every 4500 miles or so.

Also go look at Lamborghini they also burn oil.
The manufacturer is NOT the gospel. They implement those ideas to keep from having to fix their product and loose money. Go out and dump a qt of oil on the ground and then try to explain where that much would go from inside a sealed engine that doesn't leak or smoke in 1k miles. That is not normal and if it were normal, there would not be TSB's to cover oil consumption issues nor would dealerships be allowed to begin the process of oil consumption tests.

Someone asked what the mm chart represented as far as quarts and the answer is 8mm is approximately a touch more than 1/4 of a qt. The amount of space between H ~ L is 30mm, between the hash marks is 24mm.

Most people don't understand that dealerships would love to replace your engine as they get paid by Nissan for warranty work. When I had my engine replaced in my 04 G, I had no problems with getting a replacement block and that year vehicle DID NOT have a TSB to cover oil consumption.

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The manufacturer is NOT the gospel. They implement those ideas to keep from having to fix their product and loose money. Go out and dump a qt of oil on the ground and then try to explain where that much would go from inside a sealed engine that doesn't leak or smoke in 1k miles. That is not normal and if it were normal, there would not be TSB's to cover oil consumption issues nor would dealerships be allowed to begin the process of oil consumption tests.

Someone asked what the mm chart represented as far as quarts and the answer is 8mm is approximately a touch more than 1/4 of a qt. The amount of space between H ~ L is 30mm, between the hash marks is 24mm.

Most people don't understand that dealerships would love to replace your engine as they get paid by Nissan for warranty work. When I had my engine replaced in my 04 G, I had no problems with getting a replacement block and that year vehicle DID NOT have a TSB to cover oil consumption.
Dealerships and their employee's get paid a lot less for warranty work, and that takes away from money they could be making doing non-warranty work, and if they have too much warranty work, it looks bad to corporate. They are not clamboring to replace your stuff. You just got lucky/found a great dealership that went to bat for you.
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Dealerships and their employee's get paid a lot less for warranty work, and that takes away from money they could be making doing non-warranty work...
You are absolutely correct - the dealer usually makes a lot more profit doing non-warranty work.
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You are absolutely correct - the dealer usually makes a lot more profit doing non-warranty work.
That's because they rip off the consumer, but the car companies have their balls in a noose and they can't get away with it.

The average car mechanic bills 15 hours of labor for an 8 hour work day, with lots of smoke breaks.

Any auto mechanics in the house who can confirm, or want to argue?
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That's because they rip off the consumer, but the car companies have their balls in a noose and they can't get away with it.

The average car mechanic bills 15 hours of labor for an 8 hour work day, with lots of smoke breaks.

Any auto mechanics in the house who can confirm, or want to argue?
Sure

1. I don't smoke.
2. Show me a dealer that I can rake in 15 hours a day and I'll go there now, if you think all we do is just spin one wrench and then flag a hour for it your quite wrong.
3. Your paying not only for the time it takes to do the job but also for the experience and training of the dealer tech. Not to mention your also paying for the right to come back and chew out both me the service advisor and the manager if everythings not right with your car.
4. I'm happy flagging 8 hours a day. If I make more then that great but I don't want to screw people in the process for it. When you don't come back because of a bad experience then that means we just lost a customer.

I work for BMW and have now for 3 years since graduating school, our cars tend to go anywhere from 12,15k between oil changes. In that time the engines use about 1.5 to 2qts that we top up when the customer comes in.
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1. I don't smoke.
2. Show me a dealer that I can rake in 15 hours a day and I'll go there now, if you think all we do is just spin one wrench and then flag a hour for it your quite wrong.
3. Your paying not only for the time it takes to do the job but also for the experience and training of the dealer tech. Not to mention your also paying for the right to come back and chew out both me the service advisor and the manager if everythings not right with your car.
4. I'm happy flagging 8 hours a day. If I make more then that great but I don't want to screw people in the process for it. When you don't come back because of a bad experience then that means we just lost a customer.

I work for BMW and have now for 3 years since graduating school, our cars tend to go anywhere from 12,15k between oil changes. In that time the engines use about 1.5 to 2qts that we top up when the customer comes in.
I've worked in quite a few dealerships that routinely billed in hour increments when a job took 10 minutes. Dealerships charge by what their book tells them to charge. If the bok says the job should take 2 hours, and the tech finishes it in 65 minutes, guess what? Customer is billed for 2 hours.

Just because you get paid 8 hours doesn't mean the dealership didn't bill 12 hours for your labor.
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That's because they rip off the consumer, but the car companies have their balls in a noose and they can't get away with it.

The average car mechanic bills 15 hours of labor for an 8 hour work day, with lots of smoke breaks.

Any auto mechanics in the house who can confirm, or want to argue?
I'm not employed as a mechanic, but I have relatives who are or who own their own shop so I know that what you stated above is pure BS.

When a dealer performs warranty work the price for each job is set by the auto manufacturer - in other words, the profit margin that the dealer gets is limited. When the dealer does non-warranty work, they can essentially charge whatever they want.

It has nothing to do with double-charging or smoke breaks by the mechanics doing the work.

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I am getting a new Short Block!

My 370z has 39k miles on it and developed a Tick in the engine, sounded like a bad lifter. It started after an oil change last week so I took it back to the dealer and had them replace the oil thinking maybe they did not put in the Ester Oil. I didn't think that would help but they have to go through all the motions. Went in today and had three services managers working with me. Then after an hour of testing and listen they came back and said we are going to replace the short block

My Z has consumed 1 quart of oil every 3,000 miles the entire time I have owned it. I passed it off as normally since I have read that it was not excessive enough to warrant a new motor, and just top'd it off when needed. But I have more miles then most 370z owners so thought I would post my experience here. My Z was built in late 2008, thats not a typo I was surprise when they told me the build date. They had service bulletin with a series of steps they needed to take to ensure that my issue was related to the short block. The dealer is ordering the parts right now. I will definitely post back when I have my new short block it should be in two weeks, hopefully!
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