Radiator: CSF or Mishimoto?

djtodd · 05-02-2013, 10:48 AM

Price is close enough to not matter between the two.
Given that, any recommendations for one vs the other?

If someone has hands on experience with both that would be fantastic.

Thanks in advance guys.

Chuck33079 · 05-02-2013, 10:49 AM

Csf all day. Ive seen one of mishimotos radiators for another vehicle and build quality isn't even close.

O&G · 05-02-2013, 10:50 AM

Csf!

flashgordon · 05-02-2013, 12:14 PM

Setrab !?

Reaper42 · 05-02-2013, 12:37 PM

My question is why are so many people buying radiators whatsoever? I heavly track my car and my engine temps have never gotten even slightly over heated. Oil temps used to but that was fixed with 34 row oil cooler. So why waist the money on a new radiator when the stock one is plenty sufficient, at least from what I have experienced so far.

djtodd · 05-02-2013, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper42

My question is why are so many people buying radiators whatsoever? I heavly track my car and my engine temps have never gotten even slightly over heated. Oil temps used to but that was fixed with 34 row oil cooler. So why waist the money on a new radiator when the stock one is plenty sufficient, at least from what I have experienced so far.

Personally, I'm doing it as part of my TT build. Can't speak for others

djtodd · 05-02-2013, 01:05 PM

Also, it gets damned hot & humid here

theDreamer · 05-02-2013, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper42

My question is why are so many people buying radiators whatsoever? I heavly track my car and my engine temps have never gotten even slightly over heated. Oil temps used to but that was fixed with 34 row oil cooler. So why waist the money on a new radiator when the stock one is plenty sufficient, at least from what I have experienced so far.

So 260 degree water is ok?
Come run a boosted car in Texas in the summer when the temperature is 100+ and the air temp off the ground is 110-120 on a daily basis. I think last summer I registered a 183 degree intake temp when sitting at a light once because of an accident and I could not move, black top plus idle plus 100 degree temp.

theDreamer · 05-02-2013, 01:08 PM

Oh and for the OP: CSF
Been running it for years and it has been great.

gomer_110 · 05-02-2013, 02:22 PM

Love my CSF. Got it with the plan of doing a coolant to oil, oil cooler down the road.

Reaper42 · 05-02-2013, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

So 260 degree water is ok?
Come run a boosted car in Texas in the summer when the temperature is 100+ and the air temp off the ground is 110-120 on a daily basis. I think last summer I registered a 183 degree intake temp when sitting at a light once because of an accident and I could not move, black top plus idle plus 100 degree temp.

Air intake temp has nothing to do with the radiator...but temps get up to 100 in chicago and very humid as well in the summer and with stock radiator and heavy tracking I never got engine temps even close to the 3/4 mark. I can understand if you have a boosted car engine temps might get a lot hotter than NA and so thats a diff situation. Im just saying as far as NA goes, I cant see why a different radiator is necessary at all.

theDreamer · 05-02-2013, 04:37 PM

I am just using the air intake temp to represent how hot it can get here. Meaning what real temps are like around the engine and not just using what the air temp is. Even when I ran N/A in Texas on hot day just going to the 1/4 mile and doing run after run I could get 250 quickly.

Mishimoto · 05-02-2013, 04:53 PM

Hey Guys,

Just chiming in here to provide som information about the Mishimoto radiator. Our radiator will certainly provide cooling benefits in hot/humid environments as well as on the track.

The Mishimoto radiator capacity is almost double the OEM radiator which helps provide greater cooling efficiency. Our engineers did some data collection for this radiator that can be found in our engineering report here: http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-...ringReport.pdf.

I would be happy to answer any questions!

Thanks

BigT · 05-02-2013, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

I am just using the air intake temp to represent how hot it can get here. Meaning what real temps are like around the engine and not just using what the air temp is. Even when I ran N/A in Texas on hot day just going to the 1/4 mile and doing run after run I could get 250 quickly.

You're coolant temp hits 250 by the end of a quarter mile pass?

ChrisSlicks · 05-02-2013, 05:02 PM

Yep, I am N/A and water temps of 250F are not uncommon on track when the ambient temperature is high. I usually back off for a lap when I see it start to climb. Radiator upgrade will be next on the list.

05-02-2013, 10:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
djtodd Track Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 932 Drives: 2012 Nismo TT Rep Power: 3397	Radiator: CSF or Mishimoto? Price is close enough to not matter between the two. Given that, any recommendations for one vs the other? If someone has hands on experience with both that would be fantastic. Thanks in advance guys.

05-02-2013, 10:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Csf all day. Ive seen one of mishimotos radiators for another vehicle and build quality isn't even close. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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O&G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lone Star State Age: 41 Posts: 1,212 Drives: 40th Anv. Rep Power: 22	Csf! __________________ O&G's Build/Journal <---(1st lowmount single turbo treeseventy) Built Engine Thread 2011 F-250 Build/Journal

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Reaper42 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,030 Drives: GetLucky370 Rep Power: 17	My question is why are so many people buying radiators whatsoever? I heavly track my car and my engine temps have never gotten even slightly over heated. Oil temps used to but that was fixed with 34 row oil cooler. So why waist the money on a new radiator when the stock one is plenty sufficient, at least from what I have experienced so far. __________________ Sponsor roll call: Get Lucky Brand \| TOYO TIRES \| Element Graphics \| Unique Fabrication Follow on fb- Jon Sackett and Instagram @GetLucky370 GetLucky370

05-02-2013, 01:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Oh and for the OP: CSF Been running it for years and it has been great. CSF Inc. likes this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

05-02-2013, 12:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
flashgordon Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Italy Posts: 146 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 15	Setrab !?

05-02-2013, 01:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
djtodd Track Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 932 Drives: 2012 Nismo TT Rep Power: 3397	Also, it gets damned hot & humid here

05-02-2013, 02:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36940	Love my CSF. Got it with the plan of doing a coolant to oil, oil cooler down the road. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

05-02-2013, 04:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	I am just using the air intake temp to represent how hot it can get here. Meaning what real temps are like around the engine and not just using what the air temp is. Even when I ran N/A in Texas on hot day just going to the 1/4 mile and doing run after run I could get 250 quickly. Sh0velMan likes this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

05-02-2013, 04:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mishimoto Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 80 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 13	Hey Guys, Just chiming in here to provide som information about the Mishimoto radiator. Our radiator will certainly provide cooling benefits in hot/humid environments as well as on the track. The Mishimoto radiator capacity is almost double the OEM radiator which helps provide greater cooling efficiency. Our engineers did some data collection for this radiator that can be found in our engineering report here: http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-...ringReport.pdf. I would be happy to answer any questions! Thanks 2sl0w, vang_vang and Kid_pistol131 like this. __________________ Mishimoto Automotive

05-02-2013, 05:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Yep, I am N/A and water temps of 250F are not uncommon on track when the ambient temperature is high. I usually back off for a lap when I see it start to climb. Radiator upgrade will be next on the list. CSF Inc. and Rusty like this. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

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