Trouble downshifting to 1st

Japanjay · 02-25-2013, 11:42 PM

Using the brakes is front bias is it not, may not want to put any load the front, plus less foot work. I mean there are so many variables, I just prefer to be in control of the car. The clutch can be used for very light braking while shifting too, but the SRM will not really let you do that. Has there ever been a time where you dont want to drop right into the gear, but just ease into it to scrub off? Guess it is hard to explain?

SS_Firehawk · 02-26-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Japanjay

Using the brakes is front bias is it not, may not want to put any load the front, plus less foot work. I mean there are so many variables, I just prefer to be in control of the car. The clutch can be used for very light braking while shifting too, but the SRM will not really let you do that. Has there ever been a time where you dont want to drop right into the gear, but just ease into it to scrub off? Guess it is hard to explain?

I know what you are talking about. But you are thinking theory, I've yet to come to a scenario where I needed to engine brake only from the rear. Braking is front bias because it's more stable. I find engine braking does 99% of everything else traditional braking wouldn't do.

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true and yes definitely understand but it mostly occurs while im pressing the brake and holding the clutch in, so when im doing that im technically not "downshifting" im just shifting into first while the clutch is depressed and slowly coming to a stop. some may ask why not just shift to first after you stop? i do sometimes and sometimes i also shift to first while clutch is engaged and braking at the same time. when i "heel to toe" (when barely moving as in less than 5 mph) it has no problem shifting to first. and of course i wouldnt really call that heel to toe shifting since you bareley have to do anything to match the revs when moving at such a slow speed. but thats hard on the car which i dont like like. sorry for the confusion, as the problem i am having doesnt occur while actually "downshifting" just shifting to first while clutch is engaged. hope this helps its hard to explain

i have the base touring. non sport touring whatever you want to call it. and no SRM

Again, I also undertsand what you are referring to. Blipping the throttle helps match engine speed to the gear you are trying to get in. Easier on the synchro's and smoother. Like others have said, it may be a fluid problem.

xxAGAVExx · 02-26-2013, 08:28 AM

I just switched to redline and experience something similar. When I'm coasting to the red light I usually put it I to first as I'm coming to a stop, now I can't do that as easily. I need to be at like 5 mph or less before I can put it into 1st when before it was like 15 mph or less, still not engaging 1st just getting ready for when the light turns green. Not a big deal I just put it in first when I'm stopped or almost stopped

edub370 · 02-26-2013, 10:07 AM

Seen a couple people now having trouble with swapping trans fluid. Wonder if the oem stuff isn't so bad

cheshirecat · 02-27-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370

Seen a couple people now having trouble with swapping trans fluid. Wonder if the oem stuff isn't so bad

When I switched in both my 350 and 370, I experienced more issues. I think it's a good fluid, don't get me wrong, but I've personally had better luck with the OEM stuff. I don't know why- you'd think it would be the other way around.

However, for every person who says there's problems, there's another person who says it's awesome, so it's really anyone's guess.

JARblue · 02-26-2013, 10:10 AM

I'm running redline after a swap at 30K miles (~ two months ago) and zero problems

but I didn't have any problems with OEM either...

AlphaSnacks · 03-13-2013, 01:36 AM

I had these exact same issues with an Amsoil trans fluid change this winter. I couldn't get the car into 1st even at a DEAD stop, until the trans was warmed up a bit - happened every time I drove the car. I went back to OEM fluid within a week and it all went away, weather conditions were virtually identical too.

Rusty · 03-14-2013, 01:17 AM

Boy, this thread got twisted around!

When I first got my Nismo. It would slide into first from second with no problems AT any speed, and no matter how fast I down shifted. Now it's having a harder time doing it. If I take my time, it will go into first at any speed. If I try a quick down shift, it hangs up some. I have to muscle it. Change fluid from stock to Mobil1. Still does it.

bfowlzr33 · 05-31-2013, 09:27 AM

problem has resolved. i decided to keep the redline fluid for a while before i switched back to stock or any other type. feels normal again, it only took a couple months. so ill be using redline from here on out

AlphaSnacks · 05-31-2013, 09:53 AM

It's probably because the weather has gotten warmer. When it gets cold again, you'll experience it. I was in NY when I had my issues and it was bitter cold every day.

bfowlzr33 · 05-31-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaSnacks

It's probably because the weather has gotten warmer. When it gets cold again, you'll experience it. I was in NY when I had my issues and it was bitter cold every day.

possibly but the lowest the temperature would get during winter was maybe lower 40s.

02-25-2013, 11:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Japanjay Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Puyallup Posts: 856 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z MB M6 Rep Power: 15	Using the brakes is front bias is it not, may not want to put any load the front, plus less foot work. I mean there are so many variables, I just prefer to be in control of the car. The clutch can be used for very light braking while shifting too, but the SRM will not really let you do that. Has there ever been a time where you dont want to drop right into the gear, but just ease into it to scrub off? Guess it is hard to explain? bfowlzr33 likes this.

02-26-2013, 08:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
xxAGAVExx A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,037 Drives: 09 370Z BLK M6 Rep Power: 53925	I just switched to redline and experience something similar. When I'm coasting to the red light I usually put it I to first as I'm coming to a stop, now I can't do that as easily. I need to be at like 5 mph or less before I can put it into 1st when before it was like 15 mph or less, still not engaging 1st just getting ready for when the light turns green. Not a big deal I just put it in first when I'm stopped or almost stopped bfowlzr33 likes this. __________________ l 09/6MT l BP Twin Turbo Kit l E-85 w/Fuel Return l FI 18" Res CF CBE l Powertrix Ultra-Lite Coilovers l Wavetrac LSD \| Lots of SPL and Carbon Fiber \|

02-26-2013, 10:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 21	Seen a couple people now having trouble with swapping trans fluid. Wonder if the oem stuff isn't so bad cheshirecat likes this. __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

02-26-2013, 10:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684441	I'm running redline after a swap at 30K miles (~ two months ago) and zero problems but I didn't have any problems with OEM either... __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

03-13-2013, 01:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 19	I had these exact same issues with an Amsoil trans fluid change this winter. I couldn't get the car into 1st even at a DEAD stop, until the trans was warmed up a bit - happened every time I drove the car. I went back to OEM fluid within a week and it all went away, weather conditions were virtually identical too. cheshirecat and bfowlzr33 like this.

03-14-2013, 01:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,491 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	Boy, this thread got twisted around! When I first got my Nismo. It would slide into first from second with no problems AT any speed, and no matter how fast I down shifted. Now it's having a harder time doing it. If I take my time, it will go into first at any speed. If I try a quick down shift, it hangs up some. I have to muscle it. Change fluid from stock to Mobil1. Still does it. bfowlzr33 likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

05-31-2013, 09:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
bfowlzr33 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Age: 34 Posts: 150 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z SR M6 Rep Power: 13	problem has resolved. i decided to keep the redline fluid for a while before i switched back to stock or any other type. feels normal again, it only took a couple months. so ill be using redline from here on out __________________ 07 TITAN CC OFFROAD PKG 06 Mustang GT 5MT 01 Audi TT ABT 6MT

05-31-2013, 09:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 19	It's probably because the weather has gotten warmer. When it gets cold again, you'll experience it. I was in NY when I had my issues and it was bitter cold every day.

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