Highest hp 370z NA??

///PureSwank · 02-28-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

they are.

damn dude so we found out why now. thanks for all the rude comments for no reason when i was actually right on what i pay and what they charge.

If you re-track you actually made a comment about how much I spent. When in reality not every Shop is an Uprev dealer. So the norm here on average is most pay 300 for a license. How is he at fault?

synolimit · 02-28-2014, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank

If you re-track you actually made a comment about how much I spent. When in reality not every Shop is an Uprev dealer. So the norm here on average is most pay 300 for a license. How is he at fault?

I didn't know there was a difference. Why wouldn't they all be the same? If you have a cable and you tune, you should all be the same. But whatever, I'm at fault for not knowing that. At least I didn't resort to being rude, calling ban and its better without him comments.

Mike · 02-28-2014, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

yea i've noticed lol

also when mike said his 342 dropped to 320 when on a different dyno that wasnt Z1's dyno kinda says a bit towards that. dont get me wrong i love their products and amazing customer service. just a big number is all.

That was not on a different dyno. It was on the same dyno during a dyno day at Znationals.

Mike · 02-28-2014, 08:18 PM

btw, as for labor for a tune, it should be pretty high. I know John spent well over 6 hours of dyno time tuning mine.

2sl0w · 02-28-2014, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I dyno'd 342 at Z1's dyno when I got my tune. At Znationals, it was in the 320s during the dyno competition on a hot day with heavier wheels, but still was the highest NA Z there, by a good margin that day.

I think they were using 4th gear at the dyno competition to save the dyno brake. Hence the lower numbers.

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synolimit · 02-28-2014, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

yea i've noticed lol

also when mike said his 342 dropped to 320 when on a different dyno that wasnt Z1's dyno kinda says a bit towards that. dont get me wrong i love their products and amazing customer service. just a big number is all.

Z1 does std correction. 66 degrees vs 77 in sae I believe. It will always show higher. Sae is industry standard. Take off 4% is what you need to do. That's why the motor shows 332 stock vs low to mid 270's at the wheel on dyno jets in sae which is the correct numbers and 18% drive train loss.

2sl0w · 02-28-2014, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Nobody else got numbers that high with their headers. Z1 makes good stuff, but they seem to have a very "marketing-friendly" dyno.

Mike has and other cars have gotten within the range as well. It is not just the headers in that package that make more power... The modified plenum is crucial.

Z1 used their intake (which is similar to a gen 3) and a tomei single exhaust + test pipes. If you have gen 3 or equivalent with a High flow exhaust the 400hp package works as advertised.

With just the headers and a tune from someone other than z1 you are right... cars haven't been hitting 340+. But they don't have the manifold or a Jon Parham tune LoL.

And as far as the accuracy of z1's dyno ... I doubt there is a dyno out there that has run more 370z's. They have a wide range of results and would not market their kit at 400 crank HP if they weren't ready to stand behind it.

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synolimit · 02-28-2014, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2sl0w

Mike has and other cars have gotten within the range as well. It is not just the headers in that package that make more power... The modified plenum is crucial.

Z1 used their intake (which is similar to a gen 3) and a tomei single exhaust + test pipes. If you have gen 3 or equivalent with a High flow exhaust the 400hp package works as advertised.

With just the headers and a tune from someone other than z1 you are right... cars haven't been hitting 340+. But they don't have the manifold or a Jon Parham tune LoL.

And as far as the accuracy of z1's dyno ... I doubt there is a dyno out there that has run more 370z's. They have a wide range of results and would not market their kit at 400 crank HP if they weren't ready to stand behind it.

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Do you have a dyno in SAE from them? Because you can't stand behind STD. I 100% believe the dyno is accurate. I love dynojets!! But STD is just not the factor to use.

synolimit · 02-28-2014, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 2sl0w

I think they were using 4th gear at the dyno competition to save the dyno brake. Hence the lower numbers.

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I don't think I've ever seen a Z done in 5th. To many people say the car will max out untuned or something or they didn't want the rollers going that fast. It should be 5th though and you are correct it will read higher. I think most do 4th though so at least the majority can compare numbers.

SPOHN · 03-01-2014, 06:32 AM

Z1 always uses 5th always besides when they host a dyno day. The dyno takes a lot of abuse and gets hot. While SAE might be true numbers, STD numbers are used when comparing numbers between cars.

I really careless in the end. As long as my car is not running lean, especially on the high end I'm good. My numbers are lap times and that always can get lower.

2sl0w · 03-02-2014, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Do you have a dyno in SAE from them? Because you can't stand behind STD. I 100% believe the dyno is accurate. I love dynojets!! But STD is just not the factor to use.

I'll ask Jon. They just hit 338 again with the package. #checkoutthez1motorsportsyoutubechannel

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Megan370z · 03-02-2014, 02:34 PM

I like to mention about how no dyno read the same ...

What I would be very curious to see is a true stock baseline and those modification

but I think from what I remember stock 370z get about 270-275whp on his dyno. which sound about right at 65whp over stock...

it could be better though

hehe

Masterbeatty · 03-02-2014, 05:55 PM

Is there anyone with a running stroked 370z or g37. I've seen boosted and stroked but not just stroked. I would think they would have the highest hp NA. But it's damn expensive for a stroker kit.

1slow370 · 03-02-2014, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty

Is there anyone with a running stroked 370z or g37. I've seen boosted and stroked but not just stroked. I would think they would have the highest hp NA. But it's damn expensive for a stroker kit.

which is probably why they are all boosted, if you are going to spend that much on a motor you'd want to build it for low compression and boost it.

Masterbeatty · 03-03-2014, 08:39 AM

That title of, "The most powerfull N/A 370Z" means alot to some people, especially the tuner/ engine builder. I think that is more bragging rights than a boosted Z. What Shamu is doing with his VQ, i would do in a heat beat if mine wasnt a DD. Custom stroked, high compression, and HR heads

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SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	Z1 always uses 5th always besides when they host a dyno day. The dyno takes a lot of abuse and gets hot. While SAE might be true numbers, STD numbers are used when comparing numbers between cars. I really careless in the end. As long as my car is not running lean, especially on the high end I'm good. My numbers are lap times and that always can get lower. Mike and 2sl0w like this. __________________

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Megan370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,156 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 23	I like to mention about how no dyno read the same ... What I would be very curious to see is a true stock baseline and those modification but I think from what I remember stock 370z get about 270-275whp on his dyno. which sound about right at 65whp over stock... it could be better though hehe __________________ Megan Journal Click Me ....................One Man Team Motorsport Click Me

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Masterbeatty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Whales Vagina Posts: 4,586 Drives: the speed limit... Rep Power: 122866	Is there anyone with a running stroked 370z or g37. I've seen boosted and stroked but not just stroked. I would think they would have the highest hp NA. But it's damn expensive for a stroker kit. __________________ 2011 MB 6MT Masterbeatty journal

03-03-2014, 08:39 AM	#75 (permalink)
Masterbeatty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Whales Vagina Posts: 4,586 Drives: the speed limit... Rep Power: 122866	That title of, "The most powerfull N/A 370Z" means alot to some people, especially the tuner/ engine builder. I think that is more bragging rights than a boosted Z. What Shamu is doing with his VQ, i would do in a heat beat if mine wasnt a DD. Custom stroked, high compression, and HR heads Megan370z likes this. __________________ 2011 MB 6MT Masterbeatty journal

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